Mono or stereo?

Matt Picone matt at mysticworks.com
Thu Mar 31 20:33:14 CEST 2022


"my pair of lovingly maintained Proteus 2000 units" :-P


On 3/31/22 2:14 PM, Niall Munnelly wrote:
> If it’s accurate, say “Proteus 2000s,” which may not be correct 
> (Proteuses 2000), but it’s a hell of a lot easier. ;)
>
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:15 PM Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> 
> wrote:
>
>     Hey Niall,
>
>     > Stereo’s good if you’re using synths with onboard effects or pad
>     > machines like your Proteus - or if you like the way your synth
>     handles
>     > stereo (sequenced or otherwise modulated panning effects, eg).
>     But so
>     > many sounds just aren’t suited to stereo “sourcing,” and is better
>     > handled as mono and managed downstream in whatever’s doing the
>     mixing.
>     > There also a lot to be said for having one thing do the job of
>     mixing
>     > and positioning in the stereo field, rather than tweaking each
>     > individual device.
>
>     That's what I was thinking. It ought to be mentioned, though, that I
>     have two Proteuses (Protei?), with quite a variety of different ROMs.
>     Also, E-Mu effects tend to be weak, as Tony humorously pointed out of
>     Facebook. But I can't see myself hook up a synth with 128 voices with
>     sounds as diverse as dance, hip-hop, vintage synths and organs, and
>     ethnic instruments, over a mono cable.
>
>     Almost everything in the list in my reply to Jay is from the
>     1990s, so
>     they come with built-in effects. But those may not be very good,
>     and it
>     just muddles things up.
>
>     What I forgot to mention, though, is that I want a couple more
>     synths,
>     notably a MicroWave 2 and a Super Bass Station or maybe a Pulse+. So
>     then I'd be looking at more like 24 inputs.
>
>     > Of course a lot of this also has a lot to do with where your
>     audio is
>     > going and what you do with it - are you automating your mix with a
>     > DAW, or playing a mixer (hardware or software interface), or who
>     knows
>     > what else. If you’re doing the heavy lifting of mixing on your
>     > computer, it seems to me that mono channels are your best bet,
>     > certainly the best use of your money.
>
>     That's the basic idea.
>
>     > I reckon I’m in the same camp as Jay now and when we talked
>     about this
>     > here some fifteen years ago: most sources are mono, and there’s a
>     > reason mixers typically have lots of mono channels and maybe two or
>     > three stereo pairs. There are, of course, exceptions, and for
>     that, we
>     > have stuff like the Speck Xtramix and other expensive stuff, or
>     stereo
>     > line mixers like the Rane SM series that can be linked via Ethernet
>     > cables.
>
>     Anything more expensive than MOTU or Presonus isn't an option for me.
>     The Behringer X32 rack is very interesting, but I'm afraid that
>     expanding it will be an issue, because it'll have to be done via
>     AES50,
>     which nobody uses except Behringer and Midas (which they own).
>
>     > I’ve seen a lot of marketing buzz about the UDO Super Six’s
>     binaural
>     > mode, and, while I’m sure it sounds pretty amazing in the right
>     > context, I’m not sure it justifies any additional price it may
>     introduce.
>
>     That's definitely not on my radar. I've got a silly amount of sound
>     producing hardware and software already.
>
>     One thing I've been considering is chucking an ADAT card in my PC,
>     and
>     use converters. I'd have to remove a PCIe card, for example that
>     Thunderbolt card that doesn't work. That also limits my choices,
>     unless
>     I purchase a new motherboard... and I'm a bit done with spending
>     money
>     unnecessarily.
>
>     - Peter
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> -- 
> Yours,
> Niall.
>
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