Mono or stereo?

Niall Munnelly niall.munnelly at
Thu Mar 31 20:53:13 CEST 2022

“I got some romplers.”

On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 7:33 PM Matt Picone <matt at> wrote:

> "my pair of lovingly maintained Proteus 2000 units" :-P
> On 3/31/22 2:14 PM, Niall Munnelly wrote:
> If it’s accurate, say “Proteus 2000s,” which may not be correct (Proteuses
> 2000), but it’s a hell of a lot easier. ;)
> On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 5:15 PM Peter Korsten <peter at>
> wrote:
>> Hey Niall,
>> > Stereo’s good if you’re using synths with onboard effects or pad
>> > machines like your Proteus - or if you like the way your synth handles
>> > stereo (sequenced or otherwise modulated panning effects, eg). But so
>> > many sounds just aren’t suited to stereo “sourcing,” and is better
>> > handled as mono and managed downstream in whatever’s doing the mixing.
>> > There also a lot to be said for having one thing do the job of mixing
>> > and positioning in the stereo field, rather than tweaking each
>> > individual device.
>> That's what I was thinking. It ought to be mentioned, though, that I
>> have two Proteuses (Protei?), with quite a variety of different ROMs.
>> Also, E-Mu effects tend to be weak, as Tony humorously pointed out of
>> Facebook. But I can't see myself hook up a synth with 128 voices with
>> sounds as diverse as dance, hip-hop, vintage synths and organs, and
>> ethnic instruments, over a mono cable.
>> Almost everything in the list in my reply to Jay is from the 1990s, so
>> they come with built-in effects. But those may not be very good, and it
>> just muddles things up.
>> What I forgot to mention, though, is that I want a couple more synths,
>> notably a MicroWave 2 and a Super Bass Station or maybe a Pulse+. So
>> then I'd be looking at more like 24 inputs.
>> > Of course a lot of this also has a lot to do with where your audio is
>> > going and what you do with it - are you automating your mix with a
>> > DAW, or playing a mixer (hardware or software interface), or who knows
>> > what else. If you’re doing the heavy lifting of mixing on your
>> > computer, it seems to me that mono channels are your best bet,
>> > certainly the best use of your money.
>> That's the basic idea.
>> > I reckon I’m in the same camp as Jay now and when we talked about this
>> > here some fifteen years ago: most sources are mono, and there’s a
>> > reason mixers typically have lots of mono channels and maybe two or
>> > three stereo pairs. There are, of course, exceptions, and for that, we
>> > have stuff like the Speck Xtramix and other expensive stuff, or stereo
>> > line mixers like the Rane SM series that can be linked via Ethernet
>> > cables.
>> Anything more expensive than MOTU or Presonus isn't an option for me.
>> The Behringer X32 rack is very interesting, but I'm afraid that
>> expanding it will be an issue, because it'll have to be done via AES50,
>> which nobody uses except Behringer and Midas (which they own).
>> > I’ve seen a lot of marketing buzz about the UDO Super Six’s binaural
>> > mode, and, while I’m sure it sounds pretty amazing in the right
>> > context, I’m not sure it justifies any additional price it may
>> introduce.
>> That's definitely not on my radar. I've got a silly amount of sound
>> producing hardware and software already.
>> One thing I've been considering is chucking an ADAT card in my PC, and
>> use converters. I'd have to remove a PCIe card, for example that
>> Thunderbolt card that doesn't work. That also limits my choices, unless
>> I purchase a new motherboard... and I'm a bit done with spending money
>> unnecessarily.
>> - Peter
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