DSI Prophet 12

[Paul Maddox]

James,

 Thanks for the input, let's see what happens with Aurora, there's a long
way to go yet :)

Paul

On 5 February 2013 20:20, James Coplin <james at ticalun.net> wrote:

> I’m actually not super enamored with joysticks myself.  I do however love
> the mixer envelope which could be implemented without a joystick.  The
> great thing on the VS and Wavestation was this four input mixer that you
> used the envelope to pan around on.  I hardly ever touched the joystick but
> pretty much every patch had the mixer envelope going.  This feature was one
> of the main reasons I picked up an Origin as I was hoping to get the VS
> type sounds out of it since it had the mixer and the waveforms but I just
> didn’t get on well enough with it to justify keeping it for that.  Not that
> my recommendations mean anything but an interface that had this vector
> mixing with envelope but not necessarily the stick itself would be
> satisfactory for most cases and far simpler that a dedicated recording
> stick – as cool as that would be.
>
>
>
> James R. Coplin
>
>
>
> *From:* music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org [mailto:
> music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Maddox
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 1:53 PM
> *To:* Music-bar
> *Subject:* Re: DSI Prophet 12
>
>
>
> James,
>
>
>
>   Thanks for the link, I'll heave a read up.
>
>   Aurora may not have al these features, but I do have some ideas for
> future projects.
>
> FWIW, I have considered a joystick for the UI on Aurora, but with the
> ability to record and playback it's motion (like the hartmann neuron) but
> that's a long way off.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> On 5 February 2013 19:05, James Coplin <james at ticalun.net> wrote:
>
> I was talking about the VS mainly, not the PPG.  The VS does have a
> complex envelope generator with looping etc.  It also has a special
> envelope dedicated to the joystick which is the real magic.  Check out
> section 8 of the VS manual for more info:
>
>
>
> http://www.retrosynth.com/docs/pvs/pvs_user.pdf
>
>
>
> You should definitely put these in the Aurora! ;)  These two envelopes
> more than anything are responsible for the VS sound capabilities.  I tended
> to use the joystick envelope more than using the joystick in real-time but
> it was a nice performance tool.
>
>
>
> James R. Coplin
>
>
>
> *From:* music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org [mailto:
> music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Maddox
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 12:55 PM
> *To:* Music-bar
> *Subject:* Re: DSI Prophet 12
>
>
>
> James,
>
>
>
>  The PPG doesn't have complex looping ADSRs, sorry. in fact it has a
> standard ADSR for VCF and VCA and a single AD EG for a 3rd EG (pitch).
>
>
>
>  I'd be interested to see the LFO routing options, yes the joystick was
> good, but if you can do the same with an LFO or an ADSR then it's not a big
> loss IMHO. I suspect Dave avoided the joystick on purpose so people
> wouldn't compare it to the VS.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 5 February 2013 14:31, James Coplin <james at ticalun.net> wrote:
>
> Unless I’m missing something it looks very little like a VS to me!  It
> appears to only have standard ADSR envelopes, not the multi, looping,
> complex types of the PPG.  It is also lacking a joystick and the joystick
> mixing envelope.  Without these two, even if it has all the VS waveforms,
> it can’t do the essential things to sound like a VS.
>
>
>
> James R. Coplin
>
>
>
> *From:* music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org [mailto:
> music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org] *On Behalf Of *Paul Maddox
> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 05, 2013 5:57 AM
> *To:* Music-bar
> *Subject:* Re: DSI Prophet 12
>
>
>
> I gotta say, I don't see a lot of difference between the Prophet 12 and
> the VS.
>
> 4 oscillators, digital waves, analogue VCF/VCA, tonne of LFOs and
> modulation options.
>
>
>
> so I'd see the Prophet 12 as a VS with extras.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> On 5 February 2013 10:52, Gert van Santen <g.vansanten at upcmail.nl> wrote:
>
> Op 5-2-2013 11:46, Michael Zacherl schreef:
>
> pssst:  http://www.wavemeister.net/?p=4348
>
>
>
> Beautiful....
>
> --
> gert van santen
> www.gertvansanten.nl
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