Census 2011

[Romain / rXg]

Please carry on !!! I don t think you went deep enough , also I think you
need to go slow as well ;)
Slow Deep and Hard ... :)
Reverend Dong !
hehe :)


On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 3:38 PM, The Dong <dong at f2s.com> wrote:

> On 02/03/2011 11:23, Jonny Stutters wrote:
> >> I'm not filling it in for too numerous reasons.
> > If you'd like the government to have a hope in hell of effectively
> directing funds for education, health, social welfare etc to the right part
> of the country then fill in the census.
>
> That is a false statement.
> The census only needs to know how many people there are, where they
> roughly are, and maybe how old they are. Anything more is not about
> services at all. Each and every service supplied by the government (and
> most is outsourced now anyway) is already managed based on need at the
> point of supply. It would be utter lunacy to suddenly alter local or
> even central management and funding based on a census, new or 10 years old.
> Do local service managers not already report to gov. or council for
> funding? I know they do.
>
> An example: a School already knows how many pupils it has now, and it
> knows by application how many pupils it will likely have next year.
> It is known how many of them are special needs, where they are all
> 'caught' from and their sex. Need to know more?
>
> You cannot plan for healthcare via a crap census. And believe me, all
> surveys are crap, even if sticking to the utmost apex of intellectual
> probabilities.
> There are already studies and all the statistical data exists on who
> has/had what illness where etc. So it's not for healthcare planning,
> unless they ask the question "Do you think you might get ill soon?"
>
> Knowing if your Jewish third uncle stayed over on the night of the
> census tells nothing of use for providing services. It's probably an
> attempt at some kind of political in-joke, but who's laughing?
>
> > If you like some numbers with which to counter the next [people who
> aren't like us] are overrunning the country piece of bullshit in the Daily
> Mail then fill in the census.
>
> Correct. The Daily Mail attempts to make mothers hate their children at
> the best of times. Plus it keeps Esther Rantzen spewing out some more
> old wives tales ;)
>
> > If there's a shadowy conspiracy operating behind government it'll have a
> better way of doing evil than a once-every-ten-year bit of paperwork.
>
> Which makes it a complete waste of energy.
>
> Really. A census has become a tool to remind us all who is in charge.
> Gov. already have all the information necessary, through birth/death
> certification, National Insurance/Income Tax, benefits and Council Tax,
> drivers license, TV license, Passport information, it goes on..
> Even our bank accounts and internet habits are free reign for
> departments of gov. Don't kid yourself that information is not passed on
> from one gov. company to the next. The data protection act is way less
> protection that simply not giving out the data to dubious companies in
> the first place..
> A plethora of information is already available.
>
> What's the point repeating yourself, over and over, filling out 30-50
> page forms for this and 30-50 page forms for that... Yawn.
> It's mostly shite one can very safely ignore.
> To stay sane, you _must_ ignore most of it..
> You _must_ also not even engage the authorities unless it is necessary.
> We, the people, are all programmed to self-incriminate by following
> certain rules, not laws, yet the ruling classes are programmed to the
> opposite effect and will never do this. That is why politicians seem to
> get away with so much crooked sheeit, because it is very difficult to
> prove something that is denied, yet easy to incriminate those that admit
> (and submit) everything when asked.
>
> Have I gone too far? ;)
>
>
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Romain
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