The cost of being on-line

Sat Jun 25 15:46:22 CEST 2011

Jay,
Actually i m quite curious but I still doubt ...
Let me/us know about your/their electricity bill for the next winter in
Vienna :)

I wonder if people are ready to pay more to get less kW/Hour, so less
comfort for an ecological point of view  ...
I wonder if the construction process of the solar receivers are
ecological specially for the chemicals used  ...
I wonder about the maintenance of them ...
I wonder if all those new kind of energy catcher as solar receivers,wind
turbines etc  could be soon a new tax  for tomorrow ?
One stupid example : "for landscape view or for natural reserve" , the
tourism economy of a country will be  influenced by those system
installation for an environment point of view :
A lot of solar system and wind turbines are not super enjoyable
for the touristic pov, specially if those systems are everywhere in the
world for the sake of being ecological and knowing that the demography goes
up,  we will always need more :) ... ( it s like the antennas for mobile
telephones, everybody want connection with 3G Internet crap  but no ones
want the antennas in their area for landscape view reasons or health ... it
s quite a paradox I must confess ... )

Or the other way around : Society promotes those new technology to be
'ecological' ...So you and other good fraternal citizen ( swallowing all the
crap from the politics) invest to get those systems  ... but the money made
in the past by the old system won't be there anymore ... what will do the
politics of the society for  what is missing? A new Law  for a new tax
???  ( they always have good imagination and good blabla  for this  kind of
topic ...)

Also I wonder what will happen for people who don't have their own house or
property ? (living in a building with a roof area as the same size as  a big
house but with 100 peoples instead of a normal family ... ? how to supply
them energetically wise ?)
Will they pay the high price for energy from electricity company when some
have properties and can use the new technology to pay less by all means ?

Maybe the electricity company (  ie EDF in france) could use your solar
receivers or wind turbines energy ( if the energy is not used by your
family or because it's quite difficult to keep the energy with the
technology of now days  ) to share it with people who don't have any ... but
at which cost ? and who get the jackpot in the story ? You ?, the
electricity company ? or the politics taxing it because they need money too
!?

All those new respectful Natural system technology  seem interesting money
wise at the first place, but in the end It could be just a new tax-trap( as
i mentioned before)...  Just like what is petrol in Europe/World now days
and all the Coal industry for energy  ... ( what can you do when you
need energy  and can t make without it ??? )

Ask Sakozy-Gadaffi-Hu Jintao ... I think they know what's going on but they
won t answer you ...

For me Politics are very very good to be guilty but  are
never responsible for all the propositions given to solve energy problems
when this one IS obligatory combined with economy ( if those new system are
cheaper  where goes the money missed from the old system taxed ? I won t be
surprised that politics will tax the new ones for capitalistic reasons and
because some countries in Europe have debts.( and not a small one )  ...

Also,
I wonder  why in some countries I got money back from plastic bottle when i
bring them back to the shop (25cents by bottle in NL)
In france from the same price in the shop I have to bring the bottle in a
plastic container for recycle ...
But wait a sec ... where goes the 25cents per bottle ? hmmm specially when
it s multiply by  few millions citizen doing the job selection !...
I think some people make a lot of money with the ECOLOGICAL reasons when
gentle people like you or me are just f***ed (money wise) in time ...
And I don t talk about the new tax of few Euros every time I take the plane
...
Again  where goes the damn money?? It seems it's used to grow new forest in
the  Amazon hmmm  quite damn expensive the seeds and plantations
process ...
It s not just us who are f***ed but it seems that the trees and forests are
too !
The Oxygen tax is on this way and more will come for sure !!!!! ( or maybe
should we change the way how this world is functioning but who get the balls
?)

 Nb: I like the way how Finnish people built an underground city under
Helsinki ... One of their plan is to welcome some companies like facebook or
even maybe google etc to cool their data system with the Baltic sea instead
to use a lot of electricity to do the job ...

Already heard of it ?
http://business.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/14/helsinkis-underground-master-plan/

 Of course as always, I hope to be wrong .... for the sake of a better
Utopian Humanity ...

Anyway, I wish you all a nice week end !
:)

On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 11:06 PM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Depending on size of house and
> > the size of your roof, you can get close enough. But then I look at the
> > more densely populated areas and I wonder if there's ever enough roof
> > space...
>
>
> Funny enough my in-laws are getting a roof-top electricity panel setup
> next week, to replace their current heating oil setup, and it means that
> there will be more room in the basement (since the oil tank is coming
> out) and they will be getting paid for the power they don't use and put
> back on the grid .. going to be very interesting to see it.
>
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