maybe you can find something like this: http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/sc3~/ which is for Max (which costs money, not necessarily a bad thing) for PD as well? Kai -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.music-bar.org/pipermail/music-bar/attachments/20110829/94da8723/attachment-0002.html>