Help! I need a live rig

Matt Picone matt at
Mon Mar 13 14:53:43 CET 2023

Another vote for Ableton.

On 3/13/23 9:34 AM, Andrew Tarpinian wrote:
> The easiest would be Ableton. For hardware I would say the best live 
> units are MPC live (or One,) or Octatrack. MPC will give the best UI 
> and options, octatrack will give you more performative aspects (but 
> greater learning curve.) Nice thing about the MPC is you can usb into 
> say a Tascam Model mixer and digitally send the tracks to the mixer 
> channels.
>> On Mar 13, 2023, at 6:01 AM, Ibi Sum <ibisum at> wrote:
>>  Load your stuff into a Synthstrom Deluge or SamplTrek?
>> ;
>> --
>> seclorum
>>> On 13.03.2023, at 00:47, Andrew Robinson <andrew at> wrote:
>>> Thanks Tom
>>> That's an interesting product and some very useful insight - but I 
>>> think it lacks the UI for the sort of live arranging I want to do, 
>>> and I'm not deft enough to do it with faders. I've also ruled out 
>>> the Roland MC 707 and variants (not enough memory) and a few others. 
>>> Frontrunner at the moment appears to be the Akai Force, but that's 
>>> weirdly a both a sledgehammer to crack a nut in the synth / fx 
>>> department while also apparently unable to do some very basic things 
>>> like switch smoothly between songs or cope with tempo changes.
>>> - Andy_R
>>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 21:37, Tom Adam <tom.adam at> wrote:
>>>     Hi Andy,
>>>     I was in the exact same position a couple of years ago.
>>>     Long story short, I decided to drastically reduce the amount of
>>>     HW I was going to take on stage. I knew I was not going to
>>>     manage a complex set as I also needed to ’sing’ from time to time.
>>>     I got me one of these: Cymatic Audio LP16 to do multitrack
>>>     playback. (This eliminated the Laptop from the equation), bought
>>>     me a small euro rack modular (so I had something to do during
>>>     the gig), and for the rest enjoyed the show a lot.
>>>     The nice thing with the LP16 is that it’s more than just a wav
>>>     file player with multiple outputs. The downside is that you
>>>     loose some flexibility…
>>>     It gave me a midi clock signal for my modular and with the
>>>     multiple out’s I was able to connect some eft boxes and play
>>>     these life too.
>>>     I’m sure whatever way you decide to go, it’s going to be great fun!
>>>     Tom Adam
>>>     tom.adam at
>>> <>
>>>>     On 12 Mar 2023, at 13:55, Andrew Robinson <andrew at> wrote:
>>>>     Hello 'Barians
>>>>     So, someone liked my album* enough to book me to play a short
>>>>     gig - 30/40 minutes, in early June. This is great, I have loads
>>>>     of time to rehearse, but the problem is that I've been pretty
>>>>     much evangelically 100% 'in the box' since as soon as that was
>>>>     physically possible, so I have absolutely no idea about live
>>>>     set-ups. Time to turn to the 'bar and to pick your brains on
>>>>     what I need to buy so that I'm not just pressing play on a
>>>>     laptop then having nothing to do for half an hour. If it's
>>>>     affordable to make this laptop-free, great, because then I'll
>>>>     be able to VJ from my MacBook. My keyboard skills are not
>>>>     amazing, so I mostly want to be able to sequence existing audio
>>>>     on the fly, and play a few simple top lines/spot samples.
>>>>     Here's what my ideal set-up would be able to do. I have no idea
>>>>     if this is trivial, impossible, cheap, prohibitively expensive,
>>>>     and if I'm going to need 10 boxes or 1 (the fewer the better BTW).
>>>>     Live arranging:
>>>>     I want to cut my music up into sets of 16 bar stems, maybe a
>>>>     couple of dozen sets of 8-16 of them, and loop them. I want to
>>>>     be able to pick which ones to mute / unmute next time the loop
>>>>     point comes round before it gets there, and/or switch to a
>>>>     different set of stems for the next track/section of track.
>>>>     Sequencing:
>>>>     It would be nice to be able to trigger my TR-909 over midi and
>>>>     two or 3 TB-303s/clones via DIN sync, in time with the above.
>>>>     Keyboard multi-samples:
>>>>     It would be nice to be able to trigger spot samples live, via
>>>>     my Korg NanoKey2 or similar.
>>>>     It would be nice if the sample set automatically changed with
>>>>     the sets of stems above, but not essential.
>>>>     Mixing:
>>>>     All the above needs to be mixed down a stereo pair. I think
>>>>     I'll need about 16 channels because of the 909's individual outs.
>>>>     Would be nice to have:
>>>>     Reverb/EQ/distortion at the mixdown stage
>>>>     Triggering video playback in VLC in sync with the sets of stems.
>>>>     Small size.
>>>>     Affordable.
>>>>     Possibility for one or two one of my mates to plug in an
>>>>     electric guitar / sing.
>>>>     Not really needed:
>>>>     Any new synth/rompler functionality
>>>>     Heavy multi-effects capability
>>>>, what should I be buying?
>>>>     - Andy_R
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