Help! I need a live rig
Matt Picone
matt at mysticworks.com
Mon Mar 13 14:53:43 CET 2023
Another vote for Ableton.
On 3/13/23 9:34 AM, Andrew Tarpinian wrote:
> The easiest would be Ableton. For hardware I would say the best live
> units are MPC live (or One,) or Octatrack. MPC will give the best UI
> and options, octatrack will give you more performative aspects (but
> greater learning curve.) Nice thing about the MPC is you can usb into
> say a Tascam Model mixer and digitally send the tracks to the mixer
> channels.
>
>
>> On Mar 13, 2023, at 6:01 AM, Ibi Sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Load your stuff into a Synthstrom Deluge or SamplTrek?
>>
>> ;
>> --
>> seclorum
>>
>>> On 13.03.2023, at 00:47, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Tom
>>>
>>> That's an interesting product and some very useful insight - but I
>>> think it lacks the UI for the sort of live arranging I want to do,
>>> and I'm not deft enough to do it with faders. I've also ruled out
>>> the Roland MC 707 and variants (not enough memory) and a few others.
>>> Frontrunner at the moment appears to be the Akai Force, but that's
>>> weirdly a both a sledgehammer to crack a nut in the synth / fx
>>> department while also apparently unable to do some very basic things
>>> like switch smoothly between songs or cope with tempo changes.
>>>
>>> - Andy_R
>>>
>>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 21:37, Tom Adam <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Andy,
>>> I was in the exact same position a couple of years ago.
>>> Long story short, I decided to drastically reduce the amount of
>>> HW I was going to take on stage. I knew I was not going to
>>> manage a complex set as I also needed to ’sing’ from time to time.
>>> I got me one of these: Cymatic Audio LP16 to do multitrack
>>> playback. (This eliminated the Laptop from the equation), bought
>>> me a small euro rack modular (so I had something to do during
>>> the gig), and for the rest enjoyed the show a lot.
>>> The nice thing with the LP16 is that it’s more than just a wav
>>> file player with multiple outputs. The downside is that you
>>> loose some flexibility…
>>> It gave me a midi clock signal for my modular and with the
>>> multiple out’s I was able to connect some eft boxes and play
>>> these life too.
>>>
>>> I’m sure whatever way you decide to go, it’s going to be great fun!
>>>
>>> Tom Adam
>>> tom.adam at thebigear.be
>>> www.thebigear.be <http://www.thebigear.be>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 12 Mar 2023, at 13:55, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello 'Barians
>>>>
>>>> So, someone liked my album* enough to book me to play a short
>>>> gig - 30/40 minutes, in early June. This is great, I have loads
>>>> of time to rehearse, but the problem is that I've been pretty
>>>> much evangelically 100% 'in the box' since as soon as that was
>>>> physically possible, so I have absolutely no idea about live
>>>> set-ups. Time to turn to the 'bar and to pick your brains on
>>>> what I need to buy so that I'm not just pressing play on a
>>>> laptop then having nothing to do for half an hour. If it's
>>>> affordable to make this laptop-free, great, because then I'll
>>>> be able to VJ from my MacBook. My keyboard skills are not
>>>> amazing, so I mostly want to be able to sequence existing audio
>>>> on the fly, and play a few simple top lines/spot samples.
>>>>
>>>> Here's what my ideal set-up would be able to do. I have no idea
>>>> if this is trivial, impossible, cheap, prohibitively expensive,
>>>> and if I'm going to need 10 boxes or 1 (the fewer the better BTW).
>>>>
>>>> Live arranging:
>>>> I want to cut my music up into sets of 16 bar stems, maybe a
>>>> couple of dozen sets of 8-16 of them, and loop them. I want to
>>>> be able to pick which ones to mute / unmute next time the loop
>>>> point comes round before it gets there, and/or switch to a
>>>> different set of stems for the next track/section of track.
>>>>
>>>> Sequencing:
>>>> It would be nice to be able to trigger my TR-909 over midi and
>>>> two or 3 TB-303s/clones via DIN sync, in time with the above.
>>>>
>>>> Keyboard multi-samples:
>>>> It would be nice to be able to trigger spot samples live, via
>>>> my Korg NanoKey2 or similar.
>>>> It would be nice if the sample set automatically changed with
>>>> the sets of stems above, but not essential.
>>>>
>>>> Mixing:
>>>> All the above needs to be mixed down a stereo pair. I think
>>>> I'll need about 16 channels because of the 909's individual outs.
>>>>
>>>> Would be nice to have:
>>>> Reverb/EQ/distortion at the mixdown stage
>>>> Triggering video playback in VLC in sync with the sets of stems.
>>>> Small size.
>>>> Affordable.
>>>> Possibility for one or two one of my mates to plug in an
>>>> electric guitar / sing.
>>>>
>>>> Not really needed:
>>>> Any new synth/rompler functionality
>>>> Heavy multi-effects capability
>>>>
>>>> ...so, what should I be buying?
>>>>
>>>> - Andy_R
>>>>
>>>> * Available at https://lxnen.bandcamp.com/album/false-flag
>>>> https://open.spotify.com/album/1eQgu59Jc0xa772jGLFX8V
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