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Another vote for Ableton.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/13/23 9:34 AM, Andrew Tarpinian
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The easiest would be Ableton. For hardware I would say the best
live units are MPC live (or One,) or Octatrack. MPC will give the
best UI and options, octatrack will give you more performative
aspects (but greater learning curve.) Nice thing about the MPC is
you can usb into say a Tascam Model mixer and digitally send the
tracks to the mixer channels.<br>
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Load your stuff into a Synthstrom Deluge or SamplTrek?<br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On 13.03.2023, at 00:47, Andrew
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<div>That's an interesting product and some very useful
insight - but I think it lacks the UI for the sort of
live arranging I want to do, and I'm not deft enough
to do it with faders. I've also ruled out the Roland
MC 707 and variants (not enough memory) and a few
others. Frontrunner at the moment appears to be the
Akai Force, but that's weirdly a both a sledgehammer
to crack a nut in the synth / fx department while also
apparently unable to do some very basic things like
switch smoothly between songs or cope with tempo
changes.</div>
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21:37, Tom Adam <<a
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<div>Hi Andy,
<div>I was in the exact same position a couple of
years ago.</div>
<div>Long story short, I decided to drastically
reduce the amount of HW I was going to take on
stage. I knew I was not going to manage a complex
set as I also needed to ’sing’ from time to time.</div>
<div>I got me one of these: Cymatic Audio LP16 to do
multitrack playback. (This eliminated the Laptop
from the equation), bought me a small euro rack
modular (so I had something to do during the gig),
and for the rest enjoyed the show a lot.</div>
<div>The nice thing with the LP16 is that it’s more
than just a wav file player with multiple outputs.
The downside is that you loose some flexibility…</div>
<div>It gave me a midi clock signal for my modular
and with the multiple out’s I was able to connect
some eft boxes and play these life too. </div>
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<div>I’m sure whatever way you decide to go, it’s
going to be great fun!</div>
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<div>Tom Adam</div>
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<div>On 12 Mar 2023, at 13:55, Andrew Robinson
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<div>So, someone liked my album* enough to
book me to play a short gig - 30/40
minutes, in early June. This is great, I
have loads of time to rehearse, but the
problem is that I've been pretty much
evangelically 100% 'in the box' since as
soon as that was physically possible, so
I have absolutely no idea about live
set-ups. Time to turn to the 'bar and to
pick your brains on what I need to buy
so that I'm not just pressing play on a
laptop then having nothing to do for
half an hour. If it's affordable to make
this laptop-free, great, because then
I'll be able to VJ from my MacBook. My
keyboard skills are not amazing, so I
mostly want to be able to sequence
existing audio on the fly, and play a
few simple top lines/spot samples.</div>
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<div>Here's what my ideal set-up would be
able to do. I have no idea if this is
trivial, impossible, cheap,
prohibitively expensive, and if I'm
going to need 10 boxes or 1 (the fewer
the better BTW). </div>
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<div>Live arranging: </div>
<div>I want to cut my music up into sets
of 16 bar stems, maybe a couple of dozen
sets of 8-16 of them, and loop them. I
want to be able to pick which ones to
mute / unmute next time the loop point
comes round before it gets there, and/or
switch to a different set of stems for
the next track/section of track.</div>
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<div>Sequencing: <br>
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<div>It would be nice to be able to
trigger my TR-909 over midi and two or 3
TB-303s/clones via DIN sync, in time
with the above.</div>
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<div>Keyboard multi-samples: </div>
<div>It would be nice to be able to
trigger spot samples live, via my Korg
NanoKey2 or similar. </div>
<div>It would be nice if the sample set
automatically changed with the sets of
stems above, but not essential.</div>
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<div>Mixing: </div>
<div>All the above needs to be mixed down
a stereo pair. I think I'll need about
16 channels because of the 909's
individual outs.</div>
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<div>Would be nice to have: </div>
<div>Reverb/EQ/distortion at the mixdown
stage</div>
<div>Triggering video playback in VLC in
sync with the sets of stems.</div>
<div>Small size.</div>
<div>Affordable.</div>
<div>Possibility for one or two one of my
mates to plug in an electric guitar /
sing.</div>
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<div>Not really needed:</div>
<div>Any new synth/rompler functionality</div>
<div>Heavy multi-effects capability</div>
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<div>...so, what should I be buying?</div>
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<div>- Andy_R</div>
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<div>* Available at <a
href="https://lxnen.bandcamp.com/album/false-flag"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lxnen.bandcamp.com/album/false-flag</a></div>
<div> <a
href="https://open.spotify.com/album/1eQgu59Jc0xa772jGLFX8V"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://open.spotify.com/album/1eQgu59Jc0xa772jGLFX8V</a></div>
<div> and on all good streaming services,
NOW!</div>
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