xeno6696 at gmail.com
Sun Apr 17 20:22:50 CEST 2022
On 4/17/2022 9:59 AM, Peter Korsten wrote:
> Hey Jammer,
>> I mean, how can anyone big up a language like JS that is so "good"
>> they had to make another entire language/interpreter to shove between
>> the developer and "the code". TypeScripts very existence is a
>> testament to how horrible it is to work with large JS projects.
> the time. It doesn't complain about trivialities such as type safety.
> One thing I've learned in my career is that there are just really,
> really a lot of mediocre programmers around, who will never rise to
> expert level, because they're not weird enough (they cannot think like
> a computer) and because of business pressures (it had to be completed
> two weeks ago).
I've found that *most* developers fall into that second category, myself
included. I get hyperfocused on expansive solutions that solve problems
long-term, and part of why I hated being a "security oriented developer"
as opposed to an "analyst doing appsec" is that business pressures
always triumph in the long run. Companies will always opt for the
band-aid fix that is fragile as opposed to the deeper design
modifications... I assume this has to be far worse in embedded systems
where many design choices are taken away from you by the time you're the
line programmer solving an actual customer issue. I lost interest in
to declare a function. And when you compare them side-by-side you
realize that they were invented purely to allow programmers who didn't
understand the importance of simple, well-defined function interfaces to
just get work done. It's almost as bad as Perl. (shots fired, I know...)
In the longer conversation, being an appsec analyst takes me away from
having to write code to deadlines (which I just can't stand for the
noted reason) but now takes me away from working on learning languages
more deeply as I'm basically stuck all the time at teaching new
developers the same 10-15 programming mistakes over and over again.
One almost thinks that the state of the industry is there by design.
>> This all day long. Fire up Node and start a *tiny* project and it'll
>> install hundreds of megabytes of packages. It's terrifying in so many
> Ah yes, fun times. In my previous job, the focus was shifting from
> Java and some .NET to full-on .NET and front-end. There are some
> reasons for dropping Java in Malta, but I decided that moving on was
> the better option for me. I just don't enjoy it, mostly because
> TypeScript is like putting lipstick on a pig. It's a much better
> looking pig, but it's still a pig.
I feel for ya here. Java Dev mostly by accident but there's always
it's precisely because of the lack of a type system. I came of age
during JUnit becoming dominant and I grew accustomed to never writing
code I couldn't unit test, and that contributes as well to my dislike
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