Eurorack

[Marek Szulen]

Jay,
Would you buy Neutron again?

I need to check the differences between Neutron and Cat (youtube, here I
come), but I think Neutron is more modular friendly, looking at the
pictures.
I think, I'll put Neutron on my purchase list, beside a few additional
modules (I'm still thinking about some DIY ones too - just to have fun).
Yesterday, I've made the power supply for modular and turned on the B921. I
like the sound. I don't like the low level of the main waveform outs......
It's like 10x lower than what Crave outs... Luckily, tha auxiliary output
has the "correct" level.
Turns out I will need some additional amp to make the main outs usable....
Wondering if it's Behringer's thing or that's how it was with original Moog
921 too.

btw, this is, more-less, how my "rack" will look like initially (this is
not my picture, but it gives an idea - I also have Crave as a base)
[image: image.png]

Marek
Venray,NL


On Sat, 27 Feb 2021 at 09:56, Ibi Sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don’t know about Behringer having an anti-Semitic bent... but I can tell
> you that they are far from being the only synth manufacturer with
> controversial political views in their leadership...
>
> I love the Neutron, it is a fun, versatile and great sounding instrument.
> I’m definitely going to add a few more things from Behringer in the future
> - the CAT for sure, and maybe their ARP clone.
>
> The synth world NEEDED the shakeup that Behringer brought to the party -
> or is everyone quite content with paying 8x what the synths cost to make?
>
> Synths don’t need to be expensive - the incumbent players in the industry
> have long colluded to keep prices artificially high, and so the anarchists
> should be loving Behringer for the effects they had on their conpetitions’
> exotic car payments ... unless of course it’s just the fact of having an
> outlet for some pent up moral outrage, really, and not actually about the
> economy of things.  Economically, Behringer are heroes for bringing these
> formally elite cultural artifacts into prices even we proletariat can
> afford....
>
> ;
> --
> seclorum
>
> On 27.02.2021, at 04:41, Tony Scharf <tony.scharf at outlook.com> wrote:
>
> 
> Mine took me 10 years...and I’m still not finished....
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* music-bar <music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org> on behalf of
> Marek Szulen <mszulen at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, February 26, 2021 2:13:13 PM
> *To:* Music-bar <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> *Subject:* Re: Eurorack
>
> Yeah, that was one of the reasons I've been looking at 112 initially :)
> I might go for series 100 for other modules.
> I'm also thinking about adding Neutron to the setup, but this is a bit too
> much for me at this moment, so I need to wait or find the way (a store) of
> buying it in monthly payments :)
> For the same reason, I don't expect to have my modular completed earlier
> than in a couple of months.
>
> Marek
> Venray, NL
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 21:08, James Coplin <james at ticalun.net> wrote:
>
> One of the nice things about the System 100 series, is you typically get 2
> of everything in a module which is a tremulous deal at $100 a module. I
> also like that they generally have multiple inputs and attenuators so you
> don't need as many mixers or multi.
>
> Jamea
> On Feb 26, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Marek Szulen <mszulen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ah, if I've seen it earlier....
> Anyway, I was thinking about ADSR (or maybe also VCF) from 100 series.
> Eventually, those kits:
>
> https://www.skullandcircuits.com/product/vcf-3/?attribute_pa_build-level=kit
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> Marek
> Venray, NL
>
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 20:28, James Coplin < james at ticalun.net> wrote:
>
> The 112 tuning was only on the initial production batch and has been
> corrected.
>
> James
> On Feb 26, 2021, at 1:02 PM, Marek Szulen < mszulen at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all the opinions!
> Regarding Behringer system 100 - I've heard there are lots of issues with
> tuning of the 112 VCO.
> The one I've got is (yes, Behringer) 921, which had better opinions than
> 112 (which I was thinking about initially).
>
> What about those DIY kits? Like electro smith etc?
>
> Neutron is, indeed, a very nice option. I've got the Crave, because it was
> second hand and in a very good price (100eur). Otherwise, I would end-up
> with Neutron or Cat.
>
> Marek
> Venray, NL
>
>
> On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 19:49, Andrew Tarpinian < andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Doepfer, especially used doepfer on muffwiggler buy sell trade, for
> budget. Like Tony said, the used market for modular is filled with modules
> used for about 10 min for 20% off. Not that you shouldn’t be careful in
> selecting who to buy from - but these things move around like hot tamales.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 26, 2021, at 1:24 PM, moron < moron at industrial.org> wrote:
> >
> > I'll comply.  That whole cork sniffer debacle of corporate bullying /
> > antisemitism plus the long history of sleazy Behringer behaviour has
> > permanently turned me off their gear.  I realize they make chips so are
> > not 100% avoidable but if a new device has Behringer branding it's dead
> > to me. Second hand market is a grey area but even then, it's completely
> > devalued their kit in my eyes.
> >
> > It's a very easy line to draw.
> >
> >> On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 17:56 +0000, Tony Scharf wrote:
> >> I agree in the Behringer, but also want to point you to the second
> >> hand market.  There are a lot of good modules out there cheap.  Look
> >> for anything that has a mk2 or mk3 version out or coming soon.  The
> >> old modules are still great, but this craters the resale.
> >>
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> >> James Coplin < james at ticalun.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 11:41:42 AM
> >> To: Music-bar < music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Eurorack
> >>
> >> I'm probably going to get yelled at by someone but it's hard to argue
> >> against the Behringer System 100 modules.
> >>
> >> They are cheap and sound good. They are basic but make a good
> >> starting point. You can make a very competent voice in a single skiff
> >> row.
> >>
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> >>
> >> James
> >> On Feb 26, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Marek Szulen < mszulen at gmail.com<mailto:
> >> mszulen at gmail.com>> wrote:
> >> Guys
> >>
> >> I need an advice, regarding the eurorack modular.
> >> Since I have Behringer Crave, which is a semi-modular, I really
> >> started to think about extending it.
> >> Today, I've got an additional VCO  and working on the power supply.
> >> What are the other budget choices for additional modules? LFO, ADSR,
> >> VCF, VCA?
> >> What else should I look at?
> >>
> >> I'm open for DIY (not only that I like it, but mainly - it helps to
> >> stay within the budget range).
> >>
> >> Second hands are also ok, as long as they don't cost a leg ;)
> >>
> >> Marek
> >> Venray, NL
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