Moog matriarch vs subsequent 37

[tom adam]

On 19/06/2019 05:59, Michael Zacherl wrote:
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> It’s a small 20U MOTM-format system, mostly with Oakley Systems- and some MOTM modules.
> Plus some extras like Cynthias’ Zeroscillator.
I always fancied a zeroscillator. I looks like lots of fun.
> I like the Oakley designs most since they come close to their inspirational sources, like Minimoog VCOs, several filters etc.
I have several oakley modules myself too. I sold the VCO's though over 
the years and kept the motm310's and a couple of Jurgen haibles living 
VCO's.
>> We were just listening to the sounds samples on the Moog website and some stuff on you tube. Didn't keep track of it actually…
> oh, pity - IMHO the demos are not all the same (which is good).
> The Subsequent was interesting because I don’t have a modern analogue with patch storage.
When I got my P12, I was thinking of getting a Subsequent. It was a 
difficult decision... But at the end, a mono-synth (or even a paraphonic 
synth) I can easily make with my modular.
> BTW, I got me Arturia’s Pigments when it was on its introductionary offer and I like it a lot!
> (not what your friend is in the market for)
No, not what we're looking for ;-) We only use the PC for mixing, 
sync'ing gear and recording.
>
> m.
>
>> I don't know if my friend has already taken a decision as he's traveling for work... I know he played a grandmother and a Sub37 and came back indecisively. Guess he has to wait another 20 weeks or so before he can testdrive the matriarch ;-)
>>
>> T
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>> On 15/06/2019 13:29, Michael Zacherl wrote:
>>>> On 11 Jun 2019, at 20:28, tom adam <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wonder, if one has a 'big' old-school (non eurorack) modular, what would the matriarch add to the lot?
>>> maybe it’s paraphonic mode?
>>>
>>> Soundwise it’s clearly leaning towards the old 60’s systems, what we probably perceive as “raw” - its circuits origins (904A, CP3, Minimoog VCOs etc) say it.
>>> The Subsequent is much more sonically refined, it’s circuits more contemporarily sophisticated.
>>> Though having features to let it sound crunchy, if wanted (e.g. see gain staging in the filter section).
>>> I like both concepts and was tempted to get me the limited edition of the Subsequent’s CV version.
>>> (I talked me out of it, as I don’t have that kind of money anyway)
>>> Since I’m not really into paraphonically playing a (semi-)modular synth and have a 5U system I get all the sounds already.
>>>
>>> I’d be interested in the sound examples you guys have listened to?!
>>>
>>> m.
>>>
>>>> I do like the delay on the matriarch, especially since it's stereo...
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the input!
>>>>
>>>> On 10/06/2019 21:19, Andrew Tarpinian wrote:
>>>>> I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say 37 and One represent “modern” moog (Amos Gaynes) and the others are taking cues from the modular and Model D reissues lineage. But I could be wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would get the matriarch, but I already have a Sub 37 & Model D
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 2:26 PM, tom adam <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We were looking at some vid's from the grandmother, matriarch and subsequent 37 today and we were wondering about the difference in 'sound' between these machines.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apparently my partner in crime is contemplating on a new moog ;-)
>>>>>> As patch storage is not that important and patch points (to external eurorack) neither, it's all about the sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone have an opinion on this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> our test was inconclusive... (blind listening test)
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