Ableton Live - has it lost its mojo?

[deeplfo]

To add to my other more complimentary post on Live, I do agree that a
better suite of editing capabilities would be a good addition to the next
version.

Mohsen

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 8:06 AM, Tony Scharf <tony.scharf at outlook.com> wrote:

> It lacks flow, for one thing.  Entering MIDI data into live is terrible.
> The way they concocted to do step time entry is ludicrously bad.  "hold
> keys...click button...hold keys...click button"...it just is crap.
> Editing the velocities of notes that overlap is similarly bad..its just
> very fiddly to grab the little 'lollipops' with  the mouse and know you've
> got the right note.
>
> Part of my complaints is that I once used Logic and, though I don't know
> if it still exists, logic had the best detail edit window I'd ever seen.
> You could select an note, and the tell logic to select 'all notes like
> this' or 'all notes exactly like this' and it would select all of them for
> editing.  This made it so easy to edit long streams of live MIDI data. It
> also had operations for thinnning or smothing controller curves that were
> just excellent.   Other things like proportional value editing and all
> sorts of tools for flipping, chopping, doubling and halfing tempo's made it
> a slick quick tool.
>
> My workflow in logic with MIDI editing was so slick.  I'd have a crappy
> drum beat and just play some bits over it, and then use Logic's editing to
> break that up and make a whole song and arrangement out of it.  It was just
> faster for me.   Nothing has ever come close to that level of proficiency
> for me.
>
> And then Apple bought Emagic.
>
> Tony
>
> > Subject: Re: Ableton Live - has it lost its mojo?
> > From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com
> > Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 10:33:09 -0400
> > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> >
> > What do you guys hate about midi editing in Live specifically? I want to
> see if things that annoy me are just me or affect other people? I think
> some of my issues have to do in just the way Live feels and responds, but
> trying to get used to that over the years.
> >
> > > On Jun 8, 2015, at 10:24 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> But that MIDI-editing thing is something I'd like to see changed.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Its the #1 reason for my dis-interest in it, personally .. MIDI is not
> f’in “quaint”.
> > >
> > >
> > > ;
> > > --
> > > Jay Vaughan
> > > ibisum at gmail.com
> > > http://ibisum.ddns.net/
> > >
> > >
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