Ableton recording changes when monitoring is on.

Nigel Kersten nigel at explanatorygap.net
Mon Jun 8 22:45:28 CEST 2015


On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Marc Nostromo [M-.-n] <
marc.nostromo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just so that part of the misery is unveiled, you need to think that live
> always try to record things as you hear them when using monitoring.
>
> So, if you have a MIDI track in live - or run a sync'ed drum machine - and
> you monitor it though another track, you will hear the sound later than the
> original midi note *because* you are going to need to sample the sound (and
> use buffers) before it can be sent again out of live. So when looking at
> the recording, it should always be behind the notes, possibly of a timing
> equivalent to your hardware input latency (or is it the full roundtrip?).
>
> Originally, this feature is meant to help recording instruments where if
> you *play* along the track using your ears, you want live to take the input
> delay into account so it plays back like you heard it.
> The problem being that it doesn't work too well with midi sequencing and
> feeding back into live monitoring.
>
> I asked around what would the 'proper' way to do this within live and it
> seems that using the external instrument bypasses that problem. You specify
> the midi channel of your instrument and the audio input for the
> 'monitoring' and you can then track the audio in another track if you want
> to. Additional delays shouldn't be added in that case.
>
> Hope this helps clearing a bit the apparent 'strangeness' of the concept.
>

Oh it totally makes sense, once you realize it's doing something that
wasn't clearly explained like this in the manual, it's really easy to work
with :)





>
> Marc.
>
> PS: Paul, maybe you could also use external instruments as ways to label
> you ins/out. If your setup is stable (duh!), you can create one preset of
> the device per synth you have and you will never have to play with routing
> again (I'm kidding of course :)
>
>
> 2015-06-02 18:39 GMT+02:00 Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net>:
>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2015 at 3:36 AM, K9 Kai Niggemann <kai at kainiggemann.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On 01.06.2015, at 03:17, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> and do all my monitoring via Alt 3/4 on the Mackie.
>>>
>>>
>>> Just wondering: on my old (1996) CR1602, there is a lot of crosstalk
>>> from the main out to the Alt 3-4. Has this been fixed on more recent
>>> Mackies?
>>>
>>
>> I'm sure I would have heard this given the amount of sampling I've been
>> doing on my Mackie 1202 VLZ Pro from about the same era... but now you're
>> making me paranoid :)
>>
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