subwoofer?

[Andrew Tarpinian]

Yea, it’s really down to the mix, you should be able to do it by method. For instance when I mix now I am very specific about where the sounds lie frequency wise, meaning I’m trying to mix properly :) So like for bass sounds, I’m usually using them for the “sound” not necessarily the actually low bass freqs. That way I can cut the sound at a certain freq to make room for the kick and then do a seperate sine wave as the sub bass that sits below the kick. It of course depends on the track, you may want the kick to be the sub, Buchla for example might be filling up the whole sound palette, including the magic frequency that makes you see Jesus. 

Basically the more you can separate your sounds the greater control you can have over them. Also I say cut, which certain things you want to cut, but sometime to harsh a cut can kill the vibe of the sound, so you don’t always want to be drastic.

Unfortunately the best way to know is by experience, make mixes and then be able to test them on club systems. Also usually you want to keep your bass in the center and make sure you check you mixes in mono!


> On Jun 8, 2015, at 9:58 AM, punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm glad you made this observation first :)
> 
> Many years ago Sound on Sound did an article on subs. The author said that in his experiences, 9 out of 10 installations he comes across make monitoring worst, and this included many pro studios!
> 
> I've held onto this advice ever since and managed to resist the temptation (and I'm always tempted!)
> 
> :)
> 
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
> From: Andrew Tarpinian <mailto:andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>
> Sent: ‎08/‎06/‎2015 14:45
> To: Music-bar <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> Subject: Re: subwoofer?
> 
> I have heard if your room is not set up properly a sub can create more problems than solve. I'm sure it could help just to have as reference though.  I believe my D8's go down to 44Hz. Then I check my k702's which supposedly go down to 10Hz I think. Then software like Lives eq 8 and izotope ozone. I think it's possible to get it down to a mathematical science visually in the plugin rather than a subjective opinion. Also experience helps so now you have some. 
> 
> I'm not good at any of this shit yet so that just my opinion. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 8, 2015, at 8:50 AM, K9 Kai Niggemann <kai at kainiggemann.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi everyone, 
> > 
> > in the last weeks I created a soundtrack for a huge mapped projection on the city hall of Bochum, a 70 m wide projection "screen". (I will have a video up soon!)
> > 
> > They provided two incredible projectors (my friends of "AQUIET & Francis" made the visuals), with a whopping 35 000 ANSI lumen, each.
> > 
> > The PA was really nice too, providing a deep low end with a pleasing volume in the mids and highs, suggesting power and presence, without blowing anyone's hearing.
> > 
> > but when I heard my mix on that big PA I felt like I should listen to bass differently in my studio. I have a fairly small space (<20 square meters) with two Tannoy Ellipse 10" speakers as my main monitors and some different pairs to compare (K&H O96, but not well calibrated and a pair of KRK v4). 
> > 
> > The Tannoys should go down to 100 without any dips in frequency response, then decrease in power gradually (according to the manual). I think I'd like to match them up with a subwoofer. 
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend an approach? How to select a suitable subwoofer and frequency crossover? I'm not an engineer, but I need more bass control in my studio -- space constraints notwithstanding...;)
> > 
> > What are your experiences? How do you *do* bass? What are your recommendations? Where is the fine line between mojo and voodoo?
> > 
> > All the best and thanks!
> > 
> > Kai
> > 
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