Komplete Kontrol S61 + Komplete Ultimate

Fri Jul 31 18:07:48 CEST 2015

Thanks for that Mr T..  Very interesting..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

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From: "Andrew Tarpinian" <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>
Sent: ‎30/‎07/‎2015 20:14
To: "Music-bar" <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: Re: Komplete Kontrol S61 + Komplete Ultimate

Had to exchange the first one as the top octave keys were super loud/clicky when engaging after touch, this one is 99% better but technically not perfect - I saw some posts on the NI forum, a few people having the same thing with the lowest octave, sounds like a flaw in the design. Oh yea and spending most of the day with NI support switching serials yay.

Browser, didn’t think I would care but I like it. The knob mapping is… interesting. Great for presets obviously and yes as someone who hates presets the combo of the browser and the pre-mapped knobs have resulted in me finding interesting sounds to play with and modify. So enjoying Komplete without being so instrument focused. Some of the mapping when you dig in feels lazy, “knob 2” really guys? 

So yea init sounds, when you have an instruments like Razor there is an init preset, and that all works great - (like the presets) the macros are mapped to the first page of knobs and then most of the rest of the synth to all other pages. I have not explored everything yet but you don’t have access to every parameter. The weird thing is in synths like Massive and FM8 who don’t have init presets, you click the drop down and click “new sound”, tada! the knobs and pages go blank… whoops. Currently trying to figure this out, one work around is to start with a preset and init it manually yourself, that works and you have access to the knobs. Oh btw I could not find hardly a mention in any reviews or forum posts about the quality of the knob mapping or issues like this. It was mind blowing! do people not create sounds from scratch anymore?

I find the scales and the chords modes one of the best parts. Though I don’t use scales to remap, just in the mode that shows you the chosen scale over the board but still allows you to play all the notes, very handy. Chord mode is real nice for inspiration and learning because it shows you the structure of the chord as well. One problem in some of these modes is it’s not transmitting the actual note info into your daw, just the root note and the Kontrol software is doing the rest. The work around is to route from one track to another internally via midi. I get it but hopefully it’s fixed in the next update.

All in all it’s great, and using it in tandem with Push (all other daws are dead to me) it’s bordering on amazing. Komplete feels better, I sometimes use presets now, wait was this all trick?

On Jul 22, 2015, at 3:00 PM, Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> wrote:

Just ordered the 49 (grrrr I have too many damn keys) but sticking with komplete 9 for now, 11 should be out in sept, along with the ability to use 3rd party vst's..... maybe, kinda, sorta... Planning on sticking with instrument racks/push for those for now. 

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On Jul 15, 2015, at 3:53 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:

So I ditched my Novation SL61 mk2 for the KK 61, and am very happy with that.  Joost is right in that the UI could be better, but I really like the way the keyboard is mapped in a very non-intrusive way with all the NI synths.  I am also really enjoying the strip pad design for the mod wheel and pitch bend controls.

The one thing that's been annoying is that some of my 3rd party Kontakt libraries don't seem to want to load via the Komplete plugin.  I have to revert to loading an instance of Kontakt.  

Overall would totally recommend if you have a bunch of NI stuff.

Mohsen

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 8:41 AM, Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> wrote:

Guys how has the kontrol been? I'm still thinking about replacing my novation, and using k as a compliment to Push. My biggest question is can it make a workflow faster? I pretty much never use presets for synths, always make a sound starting from init - how does the knob mapping work? Is it auto set up for each synth with pages of parameters or are there custom macros set up for presets and in turn you can set them up for your own patches? Also I heard with the new update you can use it for other plugins now with midi mapping, how quick is this to set up, hit learn, tweak the plugin knob, tweak the hardware knob sort of thing?
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