Apple: meh

Tony Scharf noisetheorem at gmail.com
Wed Jun 12 15:52:55 CEST 2013


I am not sure about that use case in 2013.  I think the Mac Pro is
designed for the 'all for me' crowd with the minis and such being
there for the rest.  I don't think apple is thinking enterprise.  If
they did, I think the form factor would be a bit different.

Small offices go for SAS solutions using cloud based infrastructure:
Google Docs, Windows Azure, Xen desktops, etc.   My company is fully
virtualized (vmware) all servers and desktops with simple terminals to
connect to the big machine in the server room.  We have a few sister
companies (owned by our parent, but doing different work) that are
hooked up to our network as well providing them full desktop
infrastructure without needing anything but a good internet connection
to access it. I am  considering putting more of our own infrastructure
into the cloud as well since, if you do it right, the impact to users
is minimal but you no longer have to worry about Disaster Recovery
scenarios and the like and that saves you maintaining a offsite mirror
location that never gets utilized.

In these scenarios, you can use just about anything as a good
terminal.  My iPad hooked to a VGA monitor or TV is excellent, as the
VMWare client turns it into a keyboard and touch pad.  It's actually
pleasant to work on.  My iPhone can do this too, though I have yet to
see a thunderbolt to vga cable that was cheap enough to be worth
buying to test it.

Tony



On Wed, Jun 12, 2013 at 5:38 AM, Jay Vaughan <jayv at synth.net> wrote:
> Okay, I've had a chance to re-evaluate my position, and I think I had an "oh shit, Apple have done something amazing" moment, since my initial criticism of the hype.
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> So .. What, exactly?
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> Well this little Mac Pro: its no longer going to be a single-user device.  In other words, got a small office of people working with each other?  Well, they can all log in to the Mac Pro.  2 to 4, or probably 8 people, one computer in the room, nice monitors, and so on.  Its a 'New Desktop' strategy: make users share a single 'super-'computing device, properly.
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> So, I think thats pretty nice, especially if the thing ships with 12 cores (or is it 16?) and fat RAM/SSD max'ed out, for a good price: a single machine that will support many simultaneous users.  Network not required.
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> Now, I know we've been able to do this with Linux (and its somehow possible with M$), but I think whats interesting is that Apple are up'ing the game on what constitutes the boundaries of 'the Desktop', which is clearly not yet a levelled playing ground.
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> So maybe you M$ guys know whether Win8 supports this feature: one PC, 4 graphics cards, 8 monitors, 8 keyboards, 8 mice, independent login sessions, one computer, full 3d acceleration at each user?
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> Because I think that is the future of the Mac Pro, personally .. oh, there will always be the lone-wolf 'need-all-the-cpu-for-Me' use cases too, just that for the small office/business case, one machine and easy setup is a bit of a nice value proposition ..
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