On 16 okt. 2012, at 20:24, Jay Vaughan <jayv at synth.net> wrote: > We have about .. 10,000 .. never thought to make apple cider although the house has lately been absolutely reaking of austrian apple struedel and other associated apple things .. best thing ever is to take a walk, pick a fresh one .. You need a juicer/press :) -- Joost Schuttelaar The Hague, NL