BBC NEWS | Europe | Migrants escape on Italian island

Romain / rXg EMAIL HIDDEN
Fri Jan 30 13:41:44 CET 2009 

Tony,
first of all thank you for your input :)
All in all  to be sincere :
I m just looking for harmony (NOT FREEDOM)...and as the most of the people
know  on the music bar (i guess) , it s not a easy task even in simplest
structure  as a music-band in general ( it s a pain in the a*s).
Between struggling or escaping I will choose for escape ( i think it s still
 the best )...
then the question is what happen if I/we can t escape or struggle. ?
 kind of
"Inhibition of action" will appear and give stuff like
psycho-somatic illness (depressions, heart disease,etc ),I should mention
this type of  illness  are not really developed in poor countries as Africa
.

I think it s what I am ... i m just a citizen who pay taxes ( more and more
to get less and less) ...
I m not a politician ...
the fact is I can t escape (the question is where ?)  and I can t fight (
the question is with what ?);)  ...

The only thing that I got is words ( with science when possible, but not
everyone is scientific ).

To be realistic and "stoic" ;):
 I'm facing death in the eyes and try to be prepared for worse in this life
 ...

Better to prevent than to cure :)

Cheers my good friend ! :D
and of course peace is there when the spirit is ;)




On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Tony Hardie-Bick <tony at entity.net> wrote:

> Romain - you and me, we share the same spirit, but different thoughts ;)
>
> If there is somebody who tries and does their best, and struggles, then I
> am for
> him or her, because they try. And if there is a place where people must
> defend
> against those who struggle, then this is a place where the strugglers are
> most
> needed. And if there is a place where every person is descended from a
> struggler, then I would live there, in spirit, or perhaps in person, and
> the
> name of this place is anywhere, because there is no place, where the people
> are
> not descended from those who arrived from somewhere else to make a better
> life,
> once upon a time.
>
> Peace between you and me, as always, because you make me think carefully
> about
> these things.
>
> Tony (HB)
>
> Romain / rXg wrote:
> > Peter,
> >
> > Imo, what you wrote is all about Europe in general from Malta to Finland
> > ...
> > The solution for me will be something censured .
> > Do you think we should make a "Central park" or something like that for
> > them ?
> > with sauna,swimming pool  and churches etc etc ??
> > what I believe : you give them a finger and they take your arm ,plus
> > knowing that the s***t in their original/own countries are not solve (
> > corruptions ??) ,and won t be solve if we carry on this way...
> > The problem will become bigger and bigger ... As you said and see during
> > this last years in Malta , you should be prepare for worse .
> >
> > Politically I don t want to be "left or right"( what is right and left
> > in the end?),
> > Recently I mention to people that I am just  "above" . ;)
> >
> > We are so FREE that we can t talk freely because THEIR FREEDOM !!!
> > Democracy is not freedom of speech ...  but people believe in this so ...
> > Well, what can I say is that I m not a fan of Jesus Christ Utopia ...
> > btw those people on this island are they Christians in general ? ;)
> >
> >
> > Peace doesn t mean absence of war  ... specially during a
> > diplomatic continental invasion ...
> > or should I call this escape or exile from their own countries ???
> >
> > the Romans did this technique with the Greeks ,as the barbarians did
> > with them after all... Long long time ago ... but not so long ago ...
> >
> > Well I'm afraid that humans ( Homo sapiens ? )  will make again the same
> > mistake as they did in the past  ...
> >
> > It's all about ignorance I guess ...
> > Also I should mention there is a difference between  believing and
> knowing .
> > The  "smart" people,thinkers,politics,leaders etc  , are a
> > minority,but,they are elected by a majority who become day after day
> > ,year after year more and more dumb ( with the help of technology
> > maybe?? ) ...
> > Believing in words as FREEDOM and swallowing every lies that "politics "
> > make them  to believe in .why ? Because, it seems, that we are in a
> > decadence period , where morals and ethics are far gone ...Politic
> > guys want to  be elected  for actually get power where power is only
> > measured by money ( capitalist system) or to satisfy their own
> > Narcissistic Ego ...
> > Even if one of them is the exception he won t be able to act directly to
> > solve this type of problem ... cause human right and  blablabla ....
> > Do you make an omelette without breaking eggs ?
> >
> > Then, don t you think it s not good for them (politic guys ) to get this
> > kind of people(exiled people; who believe in FREEDOM even if  they can't
> > make it  by them self in their own countries but "give" by us in our own
> > countries, while during this time we can see our standard rules started
> > to be against us .
> >
> > This is the beauty of democracy my friend  ...
> >  it s all about number .
> >
> > All in all , don t get me wrong :
> > I repeat myself I wish I could be wrong ... ;)
> > i will prefer to live in something like "beautiful world" ...
> > well for me it s not beautiful , it s dirty and also I can smell the
> > smell becoming worse.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Romain
> > Ps: sorry for my spelling mistake. ... :S
> >
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> > On Sat, Jan 24, 2009 at 2:43 PM, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com
>  > <mailto:peter at severity-one.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     About time for a political posting...
> >
> >     http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7848786.stm
> >
> >     The thing is, it's all good and well that the UN criticises the
> Italian
> >     government for the conditions in the camp, but with almost 32,000
> >     immigrants arriving on a total population of 6,000, that's pretty
> much
> >     untenable. Before, they would be sent to the Italian mainland and
> either
> >     disappear or bribe their way out (it's Italy, after all) and so make
> >     their way into Europe. And whilst the current Italian government is a
> >     bunch of right-wing bastards, processing the asylum requests on
> >     Lampedusa is clearly meant as a deterrent.
> >
> >     Which means that they'll be going to the next closest destination:
> >     Malta. And trust me, we already have a *big* problem here. In those
> >     eight years I've lived here, the amount of Africans you see walking
> >     around has grown exponentially. In 2001, you saw maybe one black face
> a
> >     year, now they literally arrive in boatloads, especially since EU
> >     ascension.
> >
> >     They shred or dispose of their documents, so they can't be
> repatriated,
> >     which means they're stuck on this island that doesn't want them, and
> >     where they don't want to be either.
> >
> >     One of the results is an increase in xenophobia, and there have been
> >     other nasty incidents with people who are involved with immigrants.
> >
> >     And Malta has been criticised as well for its treatment of
> immigrants,
> >     but what solution is being offered? This is not a rich country, it's
> a
> >     very full country, and nobody is offering any help.
> >
> >     Just to show a perspective on the news...
> >
> >     - Peter
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> >
> > --
> > Romain Gros
> >
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