Qustion to the minds of the bar

[Tony Scharf]

Gert: Thanks for the support.  I know I am not crazy, and people like
this guy really rub me the wrong way.

Anyway, I decided to sit down and do an objective test, that didnt
involve my ears, and see what happened.  The result was kind of
interesting, at least for myself.

Kick sample from my drum library and loaded it into FL Studio and the
same into Maschine.  I played it back on quarter notes for 4 beats at
140bmp and exported the results.  I then took them into accoustical,
inverted one of them and added them together. The results are pretty
obvious:

http://www.noisetheorem.com/files/FuckYouDon/

If you look at the screen shot, you can *see* the difference quite
clearly.  Its even interesting that the two programs have different
ideas of what 140bpm is (by very small amounts) by the phasing that
occurs.

Anyone see any potential errors in this test?  I am sure its not 100%
scientific.  I did no normalizing or anything of the wave - just
loaded in the hit and exported it at unity.

Tony

On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 7:18 PM, Gert van Santen <g.vansanten at chello.nl> wrote:
> Tony Scharf schreef:
>
>> Anyway, my question is  basically, am I full of it or is he?  Is the
>> different sound I am hearing a product of my imagination, or are there
>> possibly different ways the different audio programs (FL Studio,
>> Maschine, Live, and Battery were discussed) that could result in each
>> having its own 'sound' with only the summing engines coming in to
>> play?  In my mind, it seems that audio mixing is a bit more complex
>> than just 1+1=2 math, but then again maybe it is?  This guy thinks so,
>> and posted as much.
>
> I have never compared DAWs and carefully listened to the audio to
> see if there would be a difference, but there's loads of people
> who say there definitely IS a difference. I tend to believe that
> is true.
>
> I DID personally hear the fifference between a mix done IN the
> box, and output through a stereo channel - and a mix done on an
> external mixer, where all the different tracks were routed to the
> mixer via separate outputs and mixed together outside the box,
> after which the stereo output was recorded.
> There was a big difference. De OTB mix was warm and fat, had more
> a better separation and was clearer. The ITB mix was definitely
> of a lower quality.
>
> On the other hand: if you wouldn't A/B songs this way, who would
> hear the difference...?
>
>
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>
> :-)
>
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