Patchbay woes...

Romain / rXg xtechcode at gmail.com
Fri Apr 4 17:29:45 CEST 2014 

Rack Furniture , maybe second hand ?




On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:19 AM, Andrew Tarpinian
<andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>wrote:

> Good to know as far as cables. I may try a pair as my monitors are a
> hummin'
>
> Looking at rack furniture makes me sad inside. Doge says: Such high price,
> so low quality, wow
>
> I think I'm gonna do a double Ikea Rast on casters, will look better and
> cost a fraction.
>
>  On Apr 3, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Tony Scharf <noisetheorem at outlook.com> wrote:
>
>  I like that patchbay!  Mine is the old kind that you have to flip the
> cards on to change.  I'd prefer the switches.  If I ever come across $400,
> I might replace mine.
>
> On balanced v/s unbalanced:  I don't think balanced cables will earn you
> anything in a small studio environment.  If you had very long cable runs it
> can be worth it (100ft or more), but nothing that you are going to have in
> a small home studio is going to require that kind of length.
>
> My studio is very quiet and its been running on the same cheap HOSA cables
> for the better part of 10 years.  In that time, I've probably had 4 go bad.
>
>
> Tony
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Patchbay woes...
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 15:33:00 -0400
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>
> Yea this at first made sense, and made me understand the concept better.
> But then I realized that for my situation that would not really work out
> like that for me, and that made me more confused. The ADA8000 looks
> interesting, I wonder why there are not more like this at that price point?
> It's nice to be able to use the digital io of your interface without having
> a big digital mixer. Though I think this may not be so great for me because
> you are then so reliant on the computer to route.
>
> I was looking at this patchbay since it's very easy to change the modes
> (switches)
> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SPatchPlus/
>
> What does everyone think about balanced vs unbalanced cables? I have only
> used unbalanced up until now, though I do have gear that is balanced. I'm
> thinking of getting them for my monitors since I am getting hum in them
> currently. Since I am going to be buying a shit load of cables should I
> just buy all balanced?
>
> Thanks for everyones help.
>
>
>  On Apr 3, 2014, at 9:29 AM, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com>
> wrote:
>
>   >>Far as i know in theory "A patch bay is well configured if it has
> nothing patched on the front ... "
>
> I certainly don't agree with the common wisdom.  It works if you have as
> much gear as you have mixer channels and you have a default setup that you
> always want to have, but it also hides what's going on behind the rack.
>  The entire point of a patch bay, in my opinion, is to bring those
> connections to one place up front and center where you can figure out
> what's going where just by looking at it.  I treat my rig very similarly to
> how I treat my modular synth so any default is going to end up highly
> modified anyway.
>
> Tony
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: xtechcode at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Patchbay woes...
> Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2014 12:13:20 +0200
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>
>
> I remember talking with Joost about Pachtbay ...
> Far as i know in theory "A patch bay is well configured if it has nothing
> patched on the front ... "
> if you have a cable patched  on the front it s just to redirect the signal
> to something else than your default routing ...
>
> I m using a patch bay with adat 8000 and sound card (8in/out)
>
> I tried to set it in a kind of  logical way ( also using sticker can be
> useful to know what is what) ..
> See below, maybe my drawing will inspire you :)
>
>
>
>
> < /div>
>
> -From TOP at the back  1 to 8  I plugged the instruments i mostly used
> then they are routed  in // to the Bottom  from 1 to 8  which are routed
>  to my input sound card (rme).
> -From TOP at the back  13 to 20 I plugged the instruments i mostly used
> then they are routed  in // to the Bottom  from 13 to 20  which are
> routed  to the Adat in
> -From TOP at the back 9 to 12 I plugged 4 outputs from the sound card (
> nb: 9 and 10 are routed // to the bottom 9 and 10 )
> -From TOP at the back from 21 to 24 I plugged 4 outputs from Adat out
> -From Bottom at the back  9 and 10 are routed to minidisk in  ( yes i
> still have a minidisk :-)
> -From Bottom at the back 23 is routed to my Guitar  pedal fx
> -From Bottom at the back 24  is routed to my guitar rack   fx
>
> nb:  Bottom 11, 12, 21, 22 : I don't used ...
>
>
>
>
>
>                    INSTRUMENTS
>   INSTRUMENTS
>                 /    |    |    |    |    |    \   \     AUDIO OUT       /
>     /      |      |      |      |      \             ADAT OUT
> T O P    : 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 |
> 15 | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24
>                |    |    |    |    |    |    |    |     |    |
>        |       |      |      |      |      |      |      |
> Bottom : 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15
> | 16 | 17 | 18 | 19 | 20 | 21 | 22 | 23 | 24
>                \    |    |    |    |    |    |    /     \   /
>          \       \      |      |      |      /      /    /
>   |     |
>                -  Soundcard RME in -  -  MD  -                    -
>     ADAT IN                 -             -RP10-   -  Rocktron -
>
>
>
> Romain
>
>
>
>  On 02 Apr 2014, at 23:56, Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Getting my first patchbay(s).
>
> I can patch a modular synth no prob, but getting my head around ordering
> and setting up a patchbay, really makes it hurt :(
>
> Is it just me?
>
> Also i'm dreading actually figuring out how many cables I need to have
> EVERYTHING hooked up.
>
>
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