Roland Cloud

[Ibi Sum]

We seem to have been bitten by the UAD bug at Sky Studio lately... just ordered two more Satellite TB3 boxes, maxing out the DSP count in the main DAW .. and probably won’t be buying much here else but UAD plug-ins for it going forward.. I have been having fun with the Apollo interface and Luna... its amazing what you can do with the platform as a whole. For the last week I’ve been trying to use only Luna, Shape, the piano modeling engine and the Moog engine.. and it’s definitely a lot of power. I could easily see a whole production in just this alone.

But I have to say, cloud-based plugins and synths just seems so whack. Imho, this always-connected to the internet mentality is balls, and I hate it.  Is it really worth the investment in Roland sounds to put up with that? Fair enough if you’ve got the connectivity, but what is the world coming to when kids accept this kind of intrusion into their creative processes, hmmm... 

Still, sure is fun to be making music these days.  We did have a conversation about whether Sky might invest in a Hydra AND Argon8 next.. and maybe a Sequential Prophet too, sheesh.  I’ll hardly leave the place when that happens...

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> On 26.05.2020, at 18:50, Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Yea I’m the opposite, I’m all about the short samples. Meaning creating new instruments out of single note samples that I record from another synths. The fact that in a given “tone” sound (the synth engine) you can have 4 oscillators that can be VA/pcm/or user samples pcm and enable partials which I believe, gives you a full set of filters/modulators/env per osc, I’m like wtf? Plus a crazy drum engine with more parameters than I don’t know what else. Roland made the most powerful groovebox ever + internal sampling and chopping. 
> 
> But, I’m not positive, but I think like only one reverb to share in the whole box lol. 
> 
> 
> 
>>> On May 26, 2020, at 12:04 PM, Tony Scharf <tony.scharf at outlook.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>  Im very interested in the MC707..but after using the Akai Force and MPC for a while…the sampling time seems kinda low.  I’ve gotten accustomed to loading single samples that are 7 minutes long by themselves… I’d need to pair it with an Octatrack or something that had disk streaming. 
>> 
>> The sound management does sound like a dream come true, though.  Perhaps the MC101 to augment my current setup wouldn’t be out of line..
>> 
>> Tony
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2020, at 7:50 PM, Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve had the sub for a while now and they are some of my most used plugins - they sound great. They are pretty resource intensive tho. Also over time there have been a few weird behaviors, like you needing to login to reauthorize sometimes - and a weird bug where sounds you already had on tracks certain parameters would bug out. But have not had any major issues in a while. 
>>> 
>>> I was looking into the MC-707 recently and I am kind of blown away by it - the synth/sampling/drum engines are insane, like super insane. So insane it’s weird they didn’t put a bigger screen on that thing, it should have one like the MPC Live, I guess it was a price thing and they were sticking to the performance orientated layout of the TR's. And yea realized the Xen connection. So you can design patch libraries for yourself on the computer with a big ol’ plugin and then sync them to the machine, and then fully be able to edit those patches on the machine - that’s pretty game changer.
>>> 
>>> From what I can tell? the current Xen plugin in the roland cloud is a preset only player - the editor version will be avail in fall.
>>> 
>>>> On May 25, 2020, at 5:31 PM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> In light of getting the Roland MC-707 I have been checking out Rolands software offerings.
>>>> https://www.geextreme.com/news/roland-zenology-and-cloud-2-5/
>>>> 
>>>> Seems they have re-thought their cloud solution a bit and you can now get different tiers, Free, Core, Pro and Ultimate. There’s also the possibility to buy the plugins which are essentially the same code as in the hardware instruments.
>>>> 
>>>> One cool thing is the Xenology synthesizer which is the virtual version of their ZenCore system which is the model used in Fantom, Jupiter-X/Xm, RD-88 and the MC-707/101.
>>>> 
>>>> This makes it possible to edit and manage patches in the box and transfer them to your hardware or for instance create ideas on the hardware and then transfer the sound to the computer for the production/mixing stage. The current version is limited to 1 part (Roland lingo for layer) but the upcoming Pro version will have 4 parts, the same as the hardware.
>>>> 
>>>> Prices for buyouts seems reasonable, with the top end models like D50 or JP8 selling for $149.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> /Micke
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