NEUN

[Romain / rXg]

What I try to say between the lines (at least for myself and not pointing
at you directly or anyone from musicbar): those controllers spoiled us, and
we forget to do the real work ... :)

Symbolically in the average extreme pov  :
Like cooking in the kitchen, it s not because all the technology + ''good''
food products + following the receipt that I will make a real decent meal
... or will I become a Master cook 3 stars as Joost or Gert, knowing my
skills?lol :)
NO! but ... there we go :
I put the ableton cake powder with water then I mixed it, after I put it in
the oven for 20 min, then I get your Brownie YEahhhhhhh ! :P
And I know, it sucks, cause depending on the chocolate concentration, they
all tastes the same as the one in your closest favorite fast food but who
cares cause they re all full of sugar ... and this why we all love it and
of course we all want more ..  Romain is suddenly a Chef like the one in
south park! (even if the master is clipping ?)

Well the falling part of the story is as you know, in some European
countries, now days, we don t really know what we eat anymore (pigs,
horses, or pigeons?) so in the same simplistic schema of average
technological tastes, I won t be surprised that tomorrow, we ll be disturb
to discover how we make and how we listen music in general.

So, no Push for me ... Of course, I won t be surprised, someone like you
with your musical skills can make very nice stuff from this evil machine
nb1 without any doubt ... otherwise this machine really sucks for sure . ..
 hehe :D

I could be wrong but i think Push tries  to be a  kind of automap concept
(but only for ableton) as Novation tried for many daws...

Romain


On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 8:56 PM, Andrew Tarpinian
<andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 2:00 PM, Romain / rXg <xtechcode at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> About  Push : imo is nothing less than a controller binding; Launch pad,
>> machine, mpc ideas together ...
>>
>
> That is the point, though. Native all in one unit.
>
>
>> And it s like they developed kind of  Novation automap concept only for
>> ableton ... if it s really the case they are not really innovative imo ...
>>
>
> Don't forget Ableton made things like the Launchpad and APC with Novation
> and Akai, they were partners and those were "official" instruments. So
> Ableton is not new to the game, those were experiments and this is the
> prime ableton branded result.
>
>>
>> The question I asked myself with those new devices is :
>> Should we really play music without thinking ?
>> I mean ... plugging an electrical  device and pushing buttons (all
>> pre-setup by engineer) makes you a musician-composer ?
>>
>
> Isn't that what a piano is? Also I'm sure you can select whatever mode you
> want for the most part, just pick chromatic.
>
>
>> Just do a experience, put all those neophyte musicians all together with
>> their machines-maker and the result is: they can'T play together any
>> harmonies, variations .. just chaos stuff comes out and of course you will
>> need drugs to appreciated it ... in 4\4!
>>
>
> actually, they would play in harmony because they could all select the
> same key
>
>
>> Ok, now i go back to the circle of fourth and fifth to be able to play
>> with other real musicians who knows what is a key !  :)
>>
>> Don t take it personally ... You are a very good musician as the most
>> barians on the list and i hope that push will bring you a better workflow
>> for your creativity, but in general i really wonder where the world is
>> going with all this technology against theory  as i mentioned above ...
>>
>
> I'll argue that a laymen playing on Push with the scales etc, set-up is
> making music more in tune with traditional music theory, vs. how I usually
> work which is messing around with the keyboard playing things that sound
> good to my ear, having no idea what the chords are called.
>
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Romain
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