Anyone want to invest in a startup hardware company?

[Jay Vaughan]

> Thank you Jay for the proposition ,..
> but I don t want to invest my money in this ... ( but I could be very wrong
> :)
> btw is it ecological ?( like iphone built in china ? )

It will be built in Germany, according to German eco standards, so .. 

> Anyhow imo for the principle of energy wasted I say again NO !

Fair enough!  However I think this device is one step closer to the ideal of being able to disconnect from the grid.  Its a very capable Linux workstation that is capable of being solar powered completely .. in fact I know a couple of guys who replaced their workstations with a Pandora and a solar panel, then promptly took off on a bicycle tour around Asia .. 

> ( don t you think that men wasted too much energy in general now days
> compare few years ago ? , Is it worth it ?)

You are talking to someone who has a growing pile of unused/discarded hardware that I am threatening to recover and re-use, somehow.  I have 30 Toughbooks which were just going to be chucked out, for example, waiting for me to find PCMCIA WLAN cards for them so I can get them back in working order and re-usable. 

I'm not a fan of upgrade-itis, Romain, for sure.  I've got a lot of old gear that was destined for the landfill - as a responsible green type myself, I think its awful to chuck away anything that took so many resources to be built in the first place.

> Also I m surprised to see this proposition from you , I m curious to know
> what is your goal to invest/share with this company ?money profit, network ?
> 

I have absolutely no problem with responsible capitalism, and since this is an open source device, with a great deal of effort being put into making it possible for anyone to build software for it (including putting the compiler and developer tools onboard), I see this as an interesting counter-point to the Android/iOS/Nintendo/Sony devices in the world.


> Or do you think that the World (not only for you but for everyone including
> me with all the animals, and chlorophyll forms  ) will be a better place
> with the generalisation of this type of industry ?
> 

I think its a damn shame that kids play games on machines for which they have no access to the developer tools.  So, I think there's a moral position that is worth supporting in the development of an open source, community-developer oriented device.

> (sorry, I am so pissed about our\my situation here in
> Europe knowing/thinking that the entire world seems to be not stable at
> all(economically,ecologically, etc, etc )
> 

Recycle, re-use, re-evaluate.  On the one hand, brand new technology to replace the old.  On the other hand: working technology that still works, and is still being maintained for future users.

My pile of old Toughbooks might not be useful to someone, but that is no cause for their destruction.  I will find a use. 

Same with the new pile of hardware represented by the Open Pandora project.


> To come back to the subject , maybe it s good opportunity for you to invest
> in Open Pandora gaming but from what I mentionned above it seems: it s not
> for me …


Its really just a topic of discussion that I wanted to promote, that is all .. I don't think in all seriousness that anyone on music-bar would consider this investment on the basis of my involvement in it (my family are currently reviewing the business plan with an idea to invest a few hundred k's..) but for sure, I thought it might at least be interesting.

> Ps: I will prefer to invest in Music-bar ( alias AMpfea) if this one had a
> real good project !!!! ;)

We could have built Soundcloud.  It was all there, from the beginning.  I look at samplelibrary.net and ampfea.org on archive.org these days, and I wonder what could have been ..

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Jay Vaughan