well, this really ruined my day...

[James R. Coplin]

Why is that bogus?  A small application you can run against your development
product that checks that all the appropriate handles, call backs, etc. to
ensure that all the required features are hooked up and responding was
great.  Otherwise I had to hand test each entry and exit point on a driver
while developing and that could take forever.  The entire piece still had to
go through unit testing but each time testers send code back to the
developer the costs are enormous.  This kind of an utility saved several
trips back almost certainly.  Microsoft gives it to you and I thought it was
great.  It also was useful when a vendor would blame Microsoft for their own
crappy testing.  Over the years I've come to believe that a lot (not most,
bit a significant amount) of the bitching about Microsoft is in fact from
crappy companies shifting the blame from their own inadequate testing and
development.  

James R. Coplin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: music-bar-bounces at lists.music-bar.org [mailto:music-bar-
> bounces at lists.music-bar.org] On Behalf Of ibi sum
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2010 2:05 AM
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: RE: well, this really ruined my day...
> 
> On Sun, 2010-06-20 at 13:51 -0500, James R. Coplin wrote:
> > This has been my gripe with MOTU for years.  They keep insisting how
> hard it
> > is to make drivers yet I have had devices made by two guys in a
> garage with
> > drivers that worked great.  Further, as a former developer, I can say
> that
> > the information Microsoft provides you with in their tool sets for
> building
> > stuff is exceedingly well done - better than any other platform
> (including
> > ones named after fruit) I ever worked on.  I had the driver testing
> tool
> > that I would run on the MOTU driver showing it was incorrect and they
> still
> > argued with me.  If I can run the included driver compliance
> application and
> > see that the driver was incorrect, how they could release it and not
> fix it
> > for years was baffling.
> 
> 
> You need an app to test if a driver is compliant or not?  That is
> bogus..
> 
> 
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