The things people dump..

[The Dong]

Andrew Tarpinian wrote:
> speaking of which, I might be converting a 70's raleigh grand prix to  
> fixed, maybe, if I can get it performing better as is I may not. They  
> just don't make frames like they used to, really wonderful  
> craftsmanship, made in Holland. Now a days any affordable frame is  
> made in Taiwan which is ok, and most are real nice but they are  
> cheaply made, and are well missing a bit of soul. The grand prix was  
> not a top of the line bike, I feel like now a day you have to pay out  
> the ass for real quality.

The only fiddly bit might be squishing in the rear triangle for the 
shorter axle. But it's not very difficult to adjust, cold bend, bit of 
2x2 or so.

The Raleigh Grand Preee:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/retroraleighs/grand-prix.html

That's almost the spitting of the road bike I found and use, which is 
out of commission atm due to a spoke breaking and parts being used 
temporarily for something else. It's not dead, just not a good 
autumn/winter bike being rust prone. I noticed some fatigue on the top 
tube, so I may cut and shut it into one of these: (hehe)

http://www.yankodesign.com/2009/05/01/would-a-woodchuck-chuck-a-bike-made-of-wood/

(That's one single speed I wood like)
Dig the rear suspension!
I'll put that on the end of a long list ;)

My main bike is now the one that started this thread, it has wider 2" 
riser bars and a better saddle now and is quite comfortable to ride. 
With the smooth tyres, I'd swear I can go just as fast on this as the 
skinny racer, without getting a sore back. Plus it can off road a bit 
and mount kerbs easy and impale grannies..