Multi-Core ARM and Speed vs power thoughts

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On 11/29/09 3:00 AM, "music-bar-request at lists.music-bar.org"
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> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 12:43:27 +0100
> From: Jay Vaughan <jayv at synth.net>
> Subject: Re: Netbooks
> To: Music-bar <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
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>> I wish you could get these without windows so you don't have to pay
>> the premium - something that acer is supposed to be going back to,
>> Linux.
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> acer screwing with apple over the unix experience is a good thing, but
> of course there are lots of big and small fish in that pond.  an equal-
> field on the software front means hardware needs to get much, much
> better.  we see it, eventually the el-cheapo guys will match apple for
> hardware lust at the current rate of competitive releases .. and in
> case nobody notices, ubuntu is improving rapidly at a very good pace,
> as are other linux distro's.  if acer and co. aren't careful, there
> will be a sudden realization that anyone can run their own repo, and
> its .. well .. a huge software wave, again.  those who build these
> devices and those who use these devices, working together hand in hand.
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> i look forward to the 1ghz arm multi-core, extremely low-power
> requirements, on the horizon.  SOC and all that is great; multi-core
> makes all kinds of infinite possibilities.  low-power x86 is also
> competing, its true, but linux means that x86 conformity to a very
> dusty ABI is maybe not so important any more.
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> ;
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> Jay Vaughan
 From my point of observation the MultiCore Coretex A9 ARM platform does
open up some new dimensions. However, there are several problems bothering
the semiconductor business at present. Software tools for Linux are not
evolving fast enough to keep up with the demand on code optimization. This
is evolving but is it fast enough in the Open Source community?

The Automotive business is depressed as is the PC Market in general. It
takes a large volume driving customer base to justify the fabrication of
much of this business and unfortunately Consumer electronics alone will not
sustain this growth.

Another issue is Battery technology has not evolved fast enough to keep up
to the demands of the Green agenda. If you want faster parts today, then
they will have to be pigs on battery consumption. The automotive market is
really pushing for lower power electronics i.e. More miles per gallon
requirements.

Maintaining x86 architecture is a big debate and it remains to be seen who
wins out, Low power ARM or Low Power x86 from Intel/AMD or is there another
competitor coming up not discussed here?

I hope the economy fares better in 2010 and we can see what real growth
areas evolve. 

Hope to hear from you on occasion.

Best regards,

Terry Shultz




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> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 20:10:15 +0100
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> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:04 AM, Joost Schuttelaar <
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>> http://rushkoff.com/2009/11/21/radical-abundance/ (15 mins)
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>> On 'open source' P2P currencies. Made me think.
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