Hi Tony, > It makes some very interesting pads, but I need to find the FM editor for it to access the 'hidden' parameters. Yeah I got mine for 10GBP a couple of years back - bargain and under rated too IMHO. You can grab an editor I have plus loads of patches here: http://www.strellis.com/Download/TG33_editor_patches.zip I haven't tried it though. Cheers Chris