> Yes, but getting a device that is called 'iPhone' and it being a phone > being an undesired feature... maybe I'm just old-fashioned. :) the iphone is as much of a phone as the imac was as much as a mac. 'n cheese. 'n stuff. look, whatever. android, iphone, symbian .. they're all good ('cept winmob, ick) .. ; -- Jay Vaughan