<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Or if you want to save a couple of 100, go for the 24R…or the 16R.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regarding individual outs I rarely use it, even on drum machines. The processing features in the box is so much better than what I would care to pay for outboard gear.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For me, it sounds good enough to make the track, then when you want to record it, just do a couple of takes for the separate drum sounds and process it further.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">/Micke<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 19 Aug 2021, at 19:21, Martin Naef <<a href="mailto:mnaef@navisto.ch" class="">mnaef@navisto.ch</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="">Hi Peter<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">I would second the suggestion from James – this is actually pretty close to my setup with the Midas 32R plus the two stage boxes in terms of functionality.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">For roughly the same price as the Quantum you could also get the Presonus StudioLive 32R which would give you mixing power and no hassle with the DB25 cables.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Regards<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">Martin<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span lang="EN-US" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm;" class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="EN-US" class="">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>music-bar <<a href="mailto:music-bar-bounces@lists.music-bar.org" class="">music-bar-bounces@lists.music-bar.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>James Coplin<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Donnerstag, 19. August 2021 15:34<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Music-bar <<a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org" class="">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: Does anybody use individual outs on synths?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Have you considered a Behringer x32 rack and either the 16x8 or 32x16 digital snake? That would give you all the io and a mixer plus effects.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 12pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The Presonus Quantum 4848 is great but Thunderbolt is a difficulty for lots of systems and the cost of the DB25 patchbays or cables adds a substantial amount to to cost.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">James<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">On Aug 19, 2021, at 3:11 AM, Peter Korsten <<a href="mailto:peter@severity-one.com" target="_blank" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">peter@severity-one.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0cm;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hey guys,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks for the advice. It's pretty much as I expected: individual outs on synths are nice but unused; on a drum module, they make sense.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Which means that I'm looking at a minimum of 24 analogue ins. There are some options:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0cm;" class=""><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">MOTU 24Ai (USB2 + AVB; needs snakes)<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">MOTU 16A + 828es (USB2 + TB3 + AVB)<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Presonus Quantum 4848 (TB2 so I need a converter; needs snakes; no networking)<o:p class=""></o:p></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Considerably more expensive options<o:p class=""></o:p></li></ul><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Compact ADAT A/D converters with rear panel inputs cost about the same as a MOTU unit.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">All of these would cost an amount of money that I cannot justify for the rest of the year, so I'm not going to. As for the networking, there is the choice of either spending a lot on Dante, or a lot on AVB switches (and it looks to be a bit like the Betamax of audio networking), or just forget about the whole thing, which seems the most prudent solution.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">It's pretty obvious that studios have moved largely from racks to software. My particular use case isn't a popular one.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0cm; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">- Peter<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New"; text-align: center;" class=""><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center" class=""></pre><pre style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Courier New";" class=""><br class="">music-bar mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar</a><br class=""><br class="">Listen to Music-Bar Radio! 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