<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Yeah, that was one of the reasons I've been looking at 112 initially :)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">I might go for series 100 for other modules.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">I'm also thinking about adding Neutron to the setup, but this is a bit too much for me at this moment, so I need to wait or find the way (a store) of buying it in monthly payments :)</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">For the same reason, I don't expect to have my modular completed earlier than in a couple of months.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Marek</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Venray, NL</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 21:08, James Coplin <<a href="mailto:james@ticalun.net">james@ticalun.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="zoom:0%"><div dir="auto">One of the nice things about the System 100 series, is you typically get 2 of everything in a module which is a tremulous deal at $100 a module. I also like that they generally have multiple inputs and attenuators so you don't need as many mixers or multi.<br><br></div>
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Ah, if I've seen it earlier....
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Anyway, I was thinking about ADSR (or maybe also VCF) from 100 series.
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Eventually, those kits:
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 20:28, James Coplin <
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The 112 tuning was only on the initial production batch and has been corrected.
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Thanks for all the opinions!
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Regarding Behringer system 100 - I've heard there are lots of issues with tuning of the 112 VCO.
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The one I've got is (yes, Behringer) 921, which had better opinions than 112 (which I was thinking about initially).
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What about those DIY kits? Like electro smith etc?
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Neutron is, indeed, a very nice option. I've got the Crave, because it was second hand and in a very good price (100eur). Otherwise, I would end-up with Neutron or Cat.
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Doepfer, especially used doepfer on muffwiggler buy sell trade, for budget. Like Tony said, the used market for modular is filled with modules used for about 10 min for 20% off. Not that you shouldn’t be careful in selecting who to buy from - but these things move around like hot tamales.
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<br> > On Feb 26, 2021, at 1:24 PM, moron <
<a href="mailto:moron@industrial.org" target="_blank">moron@industrial.org</a>> wrote:
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<br> > I'll comply. That whole cork sniffer debacle of corporate bullying /
<br> > antisemitism plus the long history of sleazy Behringer behaviour has
<br> > permanently turned me off their gear. I realize they make chips so are
<br> > not 100% avoidable but if a new device has Behringer branding it's dead
<br> > to me. Second hand market is a grey area but even then, it's completely
<br> > devalued their kit in my eyes.
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<br> > It's a very easy line to draw.
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<br> >> On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 17:56 +0000, Tony Scharf wrote:
<br> >> I agree in the Behringer, but also want to point you to the second
<br> >> hand market. There are a lot of good modules out there cheap. Look
<br> >> for anything that has a mk2 or mk3 version out or coming soon. The
<br> >> old modules are still great, but this craters the resale.
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<br> >> From: music-bar <
<a href="mailto:music-bar-bounces@lists.music-bar.org" target="_blank">music-bar-bounces@lists.music-bar.org</a>> on behalf of
<br> >> James Coplin <
<a href="mailto:james@ticalun.net" target="_blank">james@ticalun.net</a>>
<br> >> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 11:41:42 AM
<br> >> To: Music-bar <
<a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org" target="_blank">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a>>
<br> >> Subject: Re: Eurorack
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<br> >> I'm probably going to get yelled at by someone but it's hard to argue
<br> >> against the Behringer System 100 modules.
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<br> >> They are cheap and sound good. They are basic but make a good
<br> >> starting point. You can make a very competent voice in a single skiff
<br> >> row.
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<br> >> On Feb 26, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Marek Szulen <
<a href="mailto:mszulen@gmail.com" target="_blank">mszulen@gmail.com</a><mailto:
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<a href="mailto:mszulen@gmail.com" target="_blank">mszulen@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:
<br> >> Guys
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<br> >> I need an advice, regarding the eurorack modular.
<br> >> Since I have Behringer Crave, which is a semi-modular, I really
<br> >> started to think about extending it.
<br> >> Today, I've got an additional VCO and working on the power supply.
<br> >> What are the other budget choices for additional modules? LFO, ADSR,
<br> >> VCF, VCA?
<br> >> What else should I look at?
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<br> >> I'm open for DIY (not only that I like it, but mainly - it helps to
<br> >> stay within the budget range).
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<br> >> Second hands are also ok, as long as they don't cost a leg ;)
<br> >>
<br> >> Marek
<br> >> Venray, NL
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