<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Thanks for all the opinions!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Regarding Behringer system 100 - I've heard there are lots of issues with tuning of the 112 VCO.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">The one I've got is (yes, Behringer) 921, which had better opinions than 112 (which I was thinking about initially).</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">What about those DIY kits? Like electro smith etc?</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Neutron is, indeed, a very nice option. I've got the Crave, because it was second hand and in a very good price (100eur). Otherwise, I would end-up with Neutron or Cat.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Marek</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Venray, NL</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, 26 Feb 2021 at 19:49, Andrew Tarpinian <<a href="mailto:andrewtarpinian@gmail.com">andrewtarpinian@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Doepfer, especially used doepfer on muffwiggler buy sell trade, for budget. Like Tony said, the used market for modular is filled with modules used for about 10 min for 20% off. Not that you shouldn’t be careful in selecting who to buy from - but these things move around like hot tamales. <br>
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> On Feb 26, 2021, at 1:24 PM, moron <<a href="mailto:moron@industrial.org" target="_blank">moron@industrial.org</a>> wrote:<br>
> <br>
> I'll comply. That whole cork sniffer debacle of corporate bullying /<br>
> antisemitism plus the long history of sleazy Behringer behaviour has<br>
> permanently turned me off their gear. I realize they make chips so are<br>
> not 100% avoidable but if a new device has Behringer branding it's dead<br>
> to me. Second hand market is a grey area but even then, it's completely<br>
> devalued their kit in my eyes. <br>
> <br>
> It's a very easy line to draw. <br>
> <br>
>> On Fri, 2021-02-26 at 17:56 +0000, Tony Scharf wrote:<br>
>> I agree in the Behringer, but also want to point you to the second<br>
>> hand market. There are a lot of good modules out there cheap. Look<br>
>> for anything that has a mk2 or mk3 version out or coming soon. The<br>
>> old modules are still great, but this craters the resale.<br>
>> <br>
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>> James Coplin <<a href="mailto:james@ticalun.net" target="_blank">james@ticalun.net</a>><br>
>> Sent: Friday, February 26, 2021 11:41:42 AM<br>
>> To: Music-bar <<a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org" target="_blank">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a>><br>
>> Subject: Re: Eurorack<br>
>> <br>
>> I'm probably going to get yelled at by someone but it's hard to argue<br>
>> against the Behringer System 100 modules.<br>
>> <br>
>> They are cheap and sound good. They are basic but make a good<br>
>> starting point. You can make a very competent voice in a single skiff<br>
>> row.<br>
>> <br>
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>> James<br>
>> On Feb 26, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Marek Szulen <<a href="mailto:mszulen@gmail.com" target="_blank">mszulen@gmail.com</a><mailto:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:mszulen@gmail.com" target="_blank">mszulen@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>> Guys<br>
>> <br>
>> I need an advice, regarding the eurorack modular.<br>
>> Since I have Behringer Crave, which is a semi-modular, I really<br>
>> started to think about extending it.<br>
>> Today, I've got an additional VCO and working on the power supply.<br>
>> What are the other budget choices for additional modules? LFO, ADSR,<br>
>> VCF, VCA?<br>
>> What else should I look at?<br>
>> <br>
>> I'm open for DIY (not only that I like it, but mainly - it helps to<br>
>> stay within the budget range).<br>
>> <br>
>> Second hands are also ok, as long as they don't cost a leg ;)<br>
>> <br>
>> Marek<br>
>> Venray, NL<br>
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