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<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Experience with my iMac has been generally very good. It still runs about as well as it did when I got it, it’s just starting to get a bit bogged down when I get into using any of the newer synth plugins. and Ableton (Reason, god love it, doesn’t ever make it break a sweat). <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tony<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 17, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Niall Munnelly <<a href="mailto:niall.munnelly@gmail.com" class="">niall.munnelly@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">In my experience so far, MacBook Pros have been really shitty, and the options for repairing/replacing broken parts are shittier, still. This definitely fills me with some dread. I’m not so sure I’ve had a Mac of any stripe remain reliable for more than a year or two since pre-Intel days.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 17, 2020 at 9:00 PM Tony Scharf <<a href="mailto:tony.scharf@outlook.com" class="">tony.scharf@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">There is a lot I like about the new M1 chips…and a lot that makes me nervous. It seems their goal is to make it impossible to run anything BUT Apple Silicon. No upgrades allowed. It’s either buy a new machine, or deal with the old one. They may mean to make laptops as disposable as iPhones…<br class=""><br class="">In any case, I’m taking a wait and see. My 2015 iMac is still pretty ok….starting to get a little full, and some newer plugins cause some choking…but it still works. <br class=""><br class="">Im more worried about my MOTU audio and MIDI hardware. It may finally be time to upgrade that.<br class=""><br class="">Tony<br class=""><br class="">> On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:50 PM, Joost Schuttelaar <<a href="mailto:joost@joostschuttelaar.nl" target="_blank" class="">joost@joostschuttelaar.nl</a>> wrote:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> So, those benchmarks arriving today are quite impressive. I can’t wait for Apple to set up a system with four of these little monsters, perhaps with a secondary set of off-chip RAM slots (maybe SSD speeds are fast enough anwyay?).<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> The baseline specs of Mac’s jumped a lot too — now a measly MacBook Air is on par with the fastest Intel MacBook Pro, with a bunch of ML-cores to spare. Will be interesting to see what audio stuff will be run on those (e.g. instrument separation?). It also doesn’t bode well for DSP-hardware boards, they are now obviously just electricity wasting dongles.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Plugin compatibility will be limited I expect. So when I upgrade to ARM I’ll probably downgrade my current machine (MacBook Pro 2018) to Mojave. Still got some old tracks with 32-bit only plugins.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Hmm, now we also know why they dropped support for 32-bit in Catalina...<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Coincidentally I just received an old AGP-video card so I can revive my old Athlon XP 2400 Windows XP machine running Sonar… I religiously backed up all my old tracks & WIPs, but never bounced them to audio (arrrghhhhh). And also never backed up all those downloadaed plugins (double yaarrrgghh), so that’ll be a fun challenge to get some of them playing again…<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Cheers,<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> --<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Joost Schuttelaar<br class="">> The Hague, NL<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> music-bar mailing list<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org" target="_blank" class="">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.music-bar.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmusic-bar&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfce10d08f60c4dfc930608d88b44cc78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637412474906873344%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=XZ6mKkwc8xLZvMjyV6qWZBcc62LYpSKe47Ar0MsAIHU%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar" shash="n0uNEvcYNLXep8K7J6yohwDfwpI95XNRp/dTpTR1owTyzzEOD1mR63LK6DGEiU5aHqSkVSlC7MmTMY8SrL/MgcPsH13/68sp8fO8fR6GgTokKaLtRzBNLWGEFk0bY/XBnmmL8mcz0Eij7b8jcL1Yzz162d0ENeHzqvz0c2Gf8Mc=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.music-bar.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmusic-bar&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2b7ca9f31b1241349c4508d88b3a74b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637412430485768144%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2FnPKf8Dk%2BF44f6%2BR44DfOCODNltQpPEsrmZeLZXALTo%3D&reserved=0</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Listen to Music-Bar Radio! <<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.music-bar.org%2Fradio.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfce10d08f60c4dfc930608d88b44cc78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637412474906873344%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2F55DiJ%2FJXZDPLhTlcenOe%2BHi%2FMdEeijnEYGhBS3NDLk%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://www.music-bar.org/radio.html" shash="y0BigMBUoNDA7VCe1u8vl8I/BzOjd3N5EKziqeJP78SPzUAzMMHoWCy661x1E3Pc/+VbPh5BBjoQrioMiH7BcmGBZRM6d+bh1RPCbmIJOJADnSGcfsasZ6lVhUp5MqdvM1tf3nPM/kfx2Wu9U3XIFEcFaPCQssDvQJcUFXCNfWk=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">https://nam11.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.music-bar.org%2Fradio.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7C2b7ca9f31b1241349c4508d88b3a74b6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637412430485768144%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=NmzYIt3cdmGRin%2BHKAItsAQtgRRsv4jyz6QEoVIjJJg%3D&reserved=0</a>><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">music-bar mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org" target="_blank" class="">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.music-bar.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmusic-bar&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfce10d08f60c4dfc930608d88b44cc78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637412474906883338%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=s%2FVOjCrAPnvohNL%2BXFe7GJsCLFh0adtNAhhsczIbhkA%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar" shash="wbA/uNgzOJnt0M+I+TSxbzLsZCeqpvRsY5VKNNR7gTXs3I3Y125ijRaBQxeioVHeoR0xeq0MvpZu0JPzuA8sfY9xokP+Psr/Kbz8TuaSFClWFjDyCxGDowwvqC3nvZx5BdfR9yMDpR2Vra/BrgrXyQTI4+b1K8B9kA6FXIbe/Pw=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar</a><br class=""><br class="">Listen to Music-Bar Radio! <<a href="https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.music-bar.org%2Fradio.html&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cfce10d08f60c4dfc930608d88b44cc78%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637412474906883338%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Go3IJuTcsqBZNXRWekjYszoPVXE6KMPcU94MnYu08gw%3D&reserved=0" originalsrc="http://www.music-bar.org/radio.html" shash="EmPz1HzowMZ4m0kcuIxyDq9nwl2Iv04B1JSGb7Y6DKZ9Jx3meqVAKNNa0l7KygG7UDFZACg/vFMlCsxnNQfVwYqH2WbPOmbZ65IbDzyyZD5r+ALA3jkS72v1U1KRi6loBP83fQrtBztFGl5gF3Js4hJq1+J4V+dQiq4NPBP48nE=" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://www.music-bar.org/radio.html</a>></blockquote></div></div><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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