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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>MIDI editing in live is and has always been TERRIBLE compared to working with audio. If you work primarily with MIDI, they almost design the system to punish you for being quaint. <div><br></div><div>Tony <br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">From: forums@punkdisco.co.uk<br>To: music-bar@lists.music-bar.org<br>Subject: RE: Ableton Live - has it lost its mojo?<br>Date: Fri, 5 Jun 2015 17:08:02 +0100<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Hey Tim</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Not sure about this and, Im not the best person to comment as my Midi requirements are slightly less demanding than “play a note”.</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Saying this, I can imagine it is missing too much. You can route/merge anything to anything and it comes with every MIDI effect you can imagine. If you also have MAX for Live, you then get a ton more MIDI effects..</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">My only grumble with MIDI in Live is that you cannot name the MIDI ports (like the audio ports) and I seem to spend 10% of my time trying to find the correct ports etc…</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Ta,</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">Paul</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">London</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;">www.punkdisco.co.uk</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"></span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;"> random variate [mailto:randomvariate@hotmail.co.uk] <br><b>Sent:</b> 05 June 2015 14:56<br><b>To:</b> Music-bar<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: Ableton Live - has it lost its mojo?</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">I've not gone near live as I've read, and heard, that it's MIDI capabilities are extremely poor in comparison with the more mature DAWs.<br><br>Is this no longer the case?<br><br>Cheers<br><br>Tim</span></p></div></div><div><div class="ecxMsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;"><hr size="2" width="100%" align="center"></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:kai@kainiggemann.com">K9 Kai Niggemann</a></span><br><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">Sent: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">ý05/ý06/ý2015 14:29</span><br><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">To: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;"><a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org">Music bar</a></span><br><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">Subject: </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;">Re: Ableton Live - has it lost its mojo?</span></p></div><div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal" style="">hm, I didn't notice much that I feel is missing from Live, except maybe a better integration of multichannel output (where panning between channels is possible without a Max for Live crutch).<br><br>Recently I started working on a large project with Logic Pro again. I am still on version 9, nothing has really convinced me that I need to update. and I must say that it's the most serious of all programs. It just helps me to get my work done in a way I can't with Ableton live, when it comes to arranging. <br><br>Live has advantages when it comes to jamming, trying things out, recording in the middle of a session without stopping and thinking in tracks and parts.<br><br>Max is still my favorite sounddesign tool, my very messy sampler patch with lots of loop based destroying of audio and delays and filters gets me to places that the time-based DAWs never could. But thanks to Audio Hijack everything is always recordable and little gets lost between applications.<br><br>For me it would be too tedious to really switch to Bitwig or Reaper, in spite of all that is great about them. When I need to Get Things Done, the stuff I know wins..;)<br><br>Kai</p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________
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