<div dir="ltr">trimming and responding selectively :)<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:09 PM, ibi sum <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ibisum@gmail.com" target="_blank">ibisum@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=""><br>
> I *love* Debian. It's my first love (at least out of distros that still exist), and I think it's absolutely critically important that we continue to have strong distributions that don't have corporate interests at heart first. (See also: web browsers :/)<br>
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</span>Haha, Julian Assanges’ “Debian is pwned by the NSA” statement notwithstanding, right .. ;)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yeah I still use SIM cards too :(</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/">https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/</a><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
> Do you have the same complaints around launchd and think OS X is fundamentally flawed? Did you live through the SystemStarter -> launchd transition? We're seeing *exactly* the same story play out here, just as we did with Solaris and SMF.<br>
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</span>Yeah, in fact its precisely because of launchd that I hate systemd so much.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So I find this really interesting. I believe launchd (and SMF) have been overwhelming successes, and many of the things that make OS X awesome are enabled by moving away from the static and explicit dependencies of SystemStarter to the dynamic world of launchd.</div><div><br></div><div>I don't see developers or admins complain about launchd anymore at all.</div><div><br></div><div>Why do you hate launchd?</div></div><br></div></div>