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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>"So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1?"<div><br></div><div>Simplicity. To do a lot of things, you do have to stop the sequencer to perform an action. </div><div><br></div><div>Is it the only drum machine you're going to want? Probably not. But it has flow (for lack of a better term). It has one kit...with one fx setup...with 16 a/b patterns in memory. I am impressed by any device that requires 0 learning curve. Its like the exact opposite of the Elektron kit (a Pozitron! see what I did there..). </div><div><br></div><div>And this is something for whoever it was who said they don't like sampled drums because of the repetitive nature of the static sounds. The TR8 is *not* static. You can here the subtle shifts. The patterns just sound 'alive'. I can tell the difference between it's sound and samples. </div><div><br></div><div>I didn't expect to like it when I went to the Roland booth. I expected to strengthen my resolve in dismissing it. The exact opposite happened. </div><div><br></div><div>Nerd Audio had an analogue Rytm near it. I still may add one of those at some point....but for now, this will play magic with my octatrack. </div><div><br></div><div>Tony </div><div><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Subject: Re: Roland TR-8<br>From: andrewtarpinian@gmail.com<br>Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:57:47 -0400<br>To: music-bar@lists.music-bar.org<br><br><div>So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1?<br><br></div><div>I thought about getting one but it seemed too limited in terms of sounds for the space it takes up. And using it just as a sequencer for other sounds seems like a hassle, having to map the knobs etc... It seems cool if you're just starting out, going minimal, or have the space for a "fool around" box. Is it really that fun that it can find a place in a studio full of other stuff?</div><div><br></div><div>I am in the market for a real hardware drum machine with sounds, I have an EMX (had it forever,) xbase09 (not fun interface, limited sounds,) Volca (snare blows without mod.) Also MPC2500, not counting this as it's a sampler and not counting maschine cuz software. I narrowed to wanting either a tempest or
analog rytm, decided on the rytm but it's too expensive for my budget right now. </div><div><br>On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Tony Scharf <<a href="mailto:noisetheorem@outlook.com">noisetheorem@outlook.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote><div>
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<div dir="ltr">I felt that way too...but then I realized that I was totally and completely missing the point on the TR8. <div><br></div><div>The TR8 was not designed from the position of 'lets make cool sounds and then figure out an interface for playing them'. It was built from 'lets make this thing playable and then worry about the sounds'. Its an absolute fucking kick to play! All operations can be performed with the sequence running, and it's amazing just how fun it is to have one pattern you start with and build. Its designed to be an instrum
ent you become a virtuoso at playing in the way that guitars basically have the same base sound, but the player makes the difference. It's a cool thing to see come out in 2014.</div><div><br></div><div>My only real gripe is that it only has 4 audio outputs (stereo + two assignable). I can forgive that, though, because via USB every instrument has it's own track. There is also no song mode which I would normally whine about...but I don't because that's not the point. The point is to hook USB to your DAW and record a performance. You don't like he stock sounds? MIDI out to a sampler or drum plugin. </div><div><br></div><div>Think of it this way: This is an awesome performance interface with some sounds thrown into it rather than an emulation of a classic. </div><div><br></div><div>Also, I did talk to the roland rep and he said he couldn't comment to dates but they were looking at 606 and 707 sound sets to add. <div><br></div><div>What killed the JoMoX? The shitty interface. Why don't I own a MachineDrum? because while making cool noises, it's just not fun. The TR8 is fun and a fraction of the cost of those boxes!</div><div><br></div><div>I've become a total convert. Roland did this right.</div><div><br></div><div>Tony </div><div><br><div><hr id="ecxstopSpelling">From: <a href="mailto:forums@punkdisco.co.uk">forums@punkdisco.co.uk</a><br>To: <a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a><br>Subject: RE: Roland TR-8<br>Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div class="ecxWordSection1"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Hah!! Good one, Tony..</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore..</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Let us know once you get it..</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">Paul</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;">London</span></p><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"><a href="http://www.punkdisco.co.uk" target="_blank">www.punkdisco.co.uk</a></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"></span></p></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;"> </span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> Tony Scharf [m
ailto:entropymagnet@<a href="http://noisetheorem.com" target="_blank">noisetheorem.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 19 September 2014 21:37<br><b>To:</b> Music-bar<br><b>Subject:</b> Roland TR-8</span></p></div></div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"> </p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="">I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home.</span></p><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";">Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";"> </span></p></div><div><p class="ecxMsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Ca libri","sans-serif";">Tony </span></p></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________
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