<div><strong>> imagine the looper behavior, but with multiple tracks (and instruments) at the same time.</strong></div>
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<div>Not sure if i get it right but looper plugin on different multi tracks is possible in ableton, the problem for me is cpo power and memory of my machine ... macbook white 2007 , 4 Ghz memory ... :S</div>
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<div> my following setup should work on faster computers : looper plugins are setup individually on different tracks with key control on 3 usb keyboards that i transformed in kind of foot-pedals ( key control are for : select track, record, play, undo,stop, and another shortcut to transfer the loop recorded in looper to a clip in another track but i don t remember the name right now ) ... </div>
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<div>About Push : imo is nothing less than a controller binding; Launch pad, machine, mpc ideas together ...</div>
<div>And it s like they developed kind of Novation automap concept only for ableton ... if it s really the case they are not really innovative imo ...</div>
<div>This is why i m not interested to buy it, and what will happen when Ableton 10 with new features will come out, </div>
<div>let me guess : a new device ? :-P </div>
<div>Plush nb 2, with his one new feature : a LCD under the button for you to see the clips names ... shame it s not in Plush 1! hmmm</div>
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<div>The question I asked myself with those new devices is :</div>
<div>Should we really play music without thinking ?</div>
<div>I mean ... plugging an electrical device and pushing buttons (all pre-setup by engineer) makes you a musician-composer ?</div>
<div>Just do a experience, put all those neophyte musicians all together with their machines-maker and the result is: they can'T play together any harmonies, variations .. just chaos stuff comes out and of course you will need drugs to appreciated it ... in 4\4! </div>
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<div>Ok, now i go back to the circle of fourth and fifth to be able to play with other real musicians who knows what is a key ! :)</div>
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<div>Don t take it personally ... You are a very good musician as the most barians on the list and i hope that push will bring you a better workflow for your creativity, but in general i really wonder where the world is going with all this technology against theory as i mentioned above ...</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Andrew Tarpinian <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:andrewtarpinian@gmail.com" target="_blank">andrewtarpinian@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>They really tightened up the feel of session view. Even just working with my novation last night things just felt more grown up. I still have issues with the arrangement window during the creation process, and live is really telling me now "don't do that there dummy." They have backed this up by making session feel better, and I have a feeling I am going to be using it for a lot longer in a song before going to the arrange. This quote below from the CDM article has me very exited:</div>
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"These work in conjunction with Push’s dedicated hardware buttons, but will also come in handy even without Push. You can always sketch out ideas by creating new clips, as before. Now, hitting New on Push advances to a new, empty clip. Duplicate copies the active clip to a new space, so you can add to a pattern one layer at a time (a bit as you might with a hardware looper, but with a set of patterns recorded afterward). And the Capture and Insert New feature duplicates all the clips currently playing into a new scene – imagine the looper behavior, but with multiple tracks (and instruments) at the same time.</p>
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You can also use Fixed Length to set a pre-determined loop length, then begin recording into a clip of that length. This, at last, gives Live looper-style behavior useful to a lot of musicians. <span>It’s not quite the same as what you can do with a looper pedal – there’s still no way to set the length based on your first recording – but it’s terribly useful in overlaying ideas.</span>"</p>
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This is the killer feature for me. I think the combo of my SL keyboard and Push are going to be really what I have been looking for. I foresee myself building a lot of new instrument and drum racks for my plug-ins and sounds.</p>
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People are focusing on the small amount of features added, but I think they are missing out on what's really going on here, maturity. </p>
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Also anyone notice the master channel audibly clips a lot more easily now, if it just touches the red you start to hear clipping. This is probably a good thing as it's most likely more accurate now.</p></span></div></div>
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