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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi all<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Has anyone played with the Vengeance stuff? I have always been interested in their original SideChain product (99euro):<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.vengeance-sound.com/eng/VPS.html">http://www.vengeance-sound.com/eng/VPS.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>this is a 2 band dynamics thingy with tempo based dynamics curves for very easy/creative pumping<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Their new product is a 4 band compressor but also with tempo based pumping curves and a fabbo graphical interface (149euro):<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.vengeance-sound.com/eng/VMSMBC.html">http://www.vengeance-sound.com/eng/VMSMBC.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>for me they are absolutely on the edge of being too expensive for what they do, and, the thing that takes them over the edge is the firkin eLicenser dongle (even for the demo!!). I FINALLY gave into to dongles when I purchased the SoundToys stuff but this is iLok so I cant even use this!! Im sure for every pirate copy a dongle prevents, they lose far more sales<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Any experiences or views??<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Ta,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-GB'>Paul<br>London<br><a href="http://www.punkdisco.co.uk"><span style='color:blue'>www.punkdisco.co.uk</span></a><br>Banned by YouTube video: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvlOpBe0xU"><span style='color:blue'>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvlOpBe0xU</span></a><br>"thats mental! and rather fkin ace too! cheers! dick subhumans"</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>