<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Paul , <div>I got the 37SL MkI. My experience with </div><div>Novation seemed very attractive/sexy but in the end i was a bit disappointed for different reasons... ( maybe the first one is for update of Automap 3 I must pay :-s)</div><div>I still use automap 2 cause I heard and read that the third version of automap was buggy ( maybe they did an update of it now days).</div><div>Automap template and universal automap mode work very well with Ableton IMO ( easy to learn in automap mode etc), but in Logic 8 you can t control the third party of the plugins ...</div><div>you can still learn -manuelly in a 'non automap' mode but you have to convert CC to Fader number in the environment ... ( maybe this is solved with the 3rd version). but all those are a bit confusing in the end ... </div><div><br></div><div>My keys and knobs are ok on my novation SL 37 , I used to get problems with some buttons (stayed stuck),the 8 drums pad are ok for my test ,</div><div>the two screens are cool... the touch pad is not bad ... but i don t like the joystick ... </div><div><br></div><div>About the MkII The touch control seems to be cool , but i will prefer some motorised fader + i miss the second screen ( why Novation put the second screen away ? for manufacture cost reasons ? I don t know )...</div><div><br></div><div>If I can advice you something don t buy it on the net, go in the shop with your computer if you can and try it before on the daw you want to control to see if it will give you what you are looking for . </div><div>Some features of Automap 3 seems really cool tho ...</div><div>but I read already couple of problems on the net but maybe they are solved today ... </div><div>check it twice !!! :)</div><div><br></div><div>All in all, I m happy with it , but it took me a while to manage what I wanted to do with it ...</div><div><br></div><div>Romain</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><div>On Jun 14, 2009, at 12:14 AM, punkdISCO wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0; "><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Hey all – back from LIMs and got one of these:<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><a href="http://www.novationmusic.com/products/midi_controller/zero_sl_mk_ii" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.novationmusic.com/products/midi_controller/zero_sl_mk_ii</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Its all pretty sexy. I think it will be replacing my Doepfer Drehbank but will have to see how well it works with my lovely MKS80.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">I have been intrigued by the Novation Automap technology for a year or two. Today I have had the usual setup nonsense but the small success I have had have been very arousing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">I got this version as I figures I needed knobs directly under my monitor, along with a keyboard which had to be separate due to space issues.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">I will give a bit more feedback after I have done more with it..<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">(very quiet day btw)..<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><st1:city w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on"><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">London</span></font></st1:place></st1:city><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><a href="http://www.punkdisco.co.uk" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">www.punkdisco.co.uk</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">Banned by YouTube video:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvlOpBe0xU" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvlOpBe0xU</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; ">"thats mental! and rather fkin ace too! cheers! dick subhumans"<o:p></o:p></span></font></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>music-bar mailing list<br><a href="mailto:music-bar@lists.music-bar.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">music-bar@lists.music-bar.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar</a><br></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>