Moog matriarch vs subsequent 37

[Michael Zacherl]

> On 16 Jun 2019, at 16:56, tom adam <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> How does your 5U system look like? What modules do you have?

It’s a small 20U MOTM-format system, mostly with Oakley Systems- and some MOTM modules.
Plus some extras like Cynthias’ Zeroscillator.
I like the Oakley designs most since they come close to their inspirational sources, like Minimoog VCOs, several filters etc.

> We were just listening to the sounds samples on the Moog website and some stuff on you tube. Didn't keep track of it actually…

oh, pity - IMHO the demos are not all the same (which is good).
The Subsequent was interesting because I don’t have a modern analogue with patch storage.

BTW, I got me Arturia’s Pigments when it was on its introductionary offer and I like it a lot!
(not what your friend is in the market for)

m.

> I don't know if my friend has already taken a decision as he's traveling for work... I know he played a grandmother and a Sub37 and came back indecisively. Guess he has to wait another 20 weeks or so before he can testdrive the matriarch ;-)
> 
> T
> 
> On 15/06/2019 13:29, Michael Zacherl wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11 Jun 2019, at 20:28, tom adam <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I wonder, if one has a 'big' old-school (non eurorack) modular, what would the matriarch add to the lot?
>> maybe it’s paraphonic mode?
>> 
>> Soundwise it’s clearly leaning towards the old 60’s systems, what we probably perceive as “raw” - its circuits origins (904A, CP3, Minimoog VCOs etc) say it.
>> The Subsequent is much more sonically refined, it’s circuits more contemporarily sophisticated.
>> Though having features to let it sound crunchy, if wanted (e.g. see gain staging in the filter section).
>> I like both concepts and was tempted to get me the limited edition of the Subsequent’s CV version.
>> (I talked me out of it, as I don’t have that kind of money anyway)
>> Since I’m not really into paraphonically playing a (semi-)modular synth and have a 5U system I get all the sounds already.
>> 
>> I’d be interested in the sound examples you guys have listened to?!
>> 
>> m.
>> 
>>> I do like the delay on the matriarch, especially since it's stereo...
>>> 
>>> thanks for the input!
>>> 
>>> On 10/06/2019 21:19, Andrew Tarpinian wrote:
>>>> I’m gonna go out on a limb here and say 37 and One represent “modern” moog (Amos Gaynes) and the others are taking cues from the modular and Model D reissues lineage. But I could be wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> I would get the matriarch, but I already have a Sub 37 & Model D
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jun 10, 2019, at 2:26 PM, tom adam <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> We were looking at some vid's from the grandmother, matriarch and subsequent 37 today and we were wondering about the difference in 'sound' between these machines.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apparently my partner in crime is contemplating on a new moog ;-)
>>>>> As patch storage is not that important and patch points (to external eurorack) neither, it's all about the sound.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Anyone have an opinion on this?
>>>>> 
>>>>> our test was inconclusive... (blind listening test)