From deeplfo at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 00:11:25 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 15:11:25 -0800
Subject: Saturday Afternoon Mix
In-Reply-To: <17E5741E-F232-4160-8125-7BD3D55F74CF@joostschuttelaar.nl>
References: <CAMbtJi6Biu1bdmGkU00bjZbUMU1OLQL-ouG7tMy7Xn=w3xVXUQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <17E5741E-F232-4160-8125-7BD3D55F74CF@joostschuttelaar.nl>
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi7ay-ay7JPGc_L_GsbPq6HmgOXHWMe5wwWyVGxMD7Xa0Q@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks.

On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 2:45 PM, Joost Schuttelaar <
joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:

> On 31 Jan 2015, at 23:30, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > An hour of tunes from the Blue Room this Saturday afternoon:
> >
> > http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deeplfo
>
> Checked in! If you?re able to raise the volume a tiny bit (3db?) then the
> ads won?t blast through so loudly ;)
>
> --
>
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> _______________________________________________
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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 08:32:10 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 23:32:10 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>

Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do
a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle
the logistics (Thanks J).....

All we need is a theme to get everyone going.



How's is?

cheers,
Mohsen
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sun Feb  1 11:27:04 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:27:04 -0000
Subject: Saturday Afternoon Mix
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi6Biu1bdmGkU00bjZbUMU1OLQL-ouG7tMy7Xn=w3xVXUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi6Biu1bdmGkU00bjZbUMU1OLQL-ouG7tMy7Xn=w3xVXUQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01ab01d03e09$a1deb7e0$e59c27a0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Sorry, was past my bedtime..

 

Next time!!

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
Sent: 31 January 2015 22:31
To: Music-bar
Subject: Saturday Afternoon Mix

 

An hour of tunes from the Blue Room this Saturday afternoon:

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deeplfo



- m o H s e n

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sun Feb  1 11:29:33 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:29:33 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Good idea.

 

We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
To: Music-bar
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015

 

Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....

All we need is a theme to get everyone going.




How's is?

cheers,
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sun Feb  1 12:05:28 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:05:28 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CC3DA43D-9393-4567-9502-98069217EE7E@joostschuttelaar.nl>

Alright! FTP details:

ftp://rpm.music-bar.org/

Login with: rpm14, password: rpm14.

Anything you upload in /public_html is visible to the world at:

http://rpm14.music-bar.org/

So put your WIP MP3s in there and post ?em to the -bar! :)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 01 Feb 2015, at 08:32, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
> 
> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
> 
> 
> 
> How's is?
> 
> cheers,
> Mohsen
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sun Feb  1 12:42:41 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 11:42:41 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CC3DA43D-9393-4567-9502-98069217EE7E@joostschuttelaar.nl>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC3DA43D-9393-4567-9502-98069217EE7E@joostschuttelaar.nl>
Message-ID: <02c201d03e14$32573b30$9705b190$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Well done, Joost.

Is there a deadline?  End of Feb?

ta

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
> Sent: 01 February 2015 11:05
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> 
> Alright! FTP details:
> 
> ftp://rpm.music-bar.org/
> 
> Login with: rpm14, password: rpm14.
> 
> Anything you upload in /public_html is visible to the world at:
> 
> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/
> 
> So put your WIP MP3s in there and post ?em to the -bar! :)
> 
> --
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> 
> > On 01 Feb 2015, at 08:32, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we
> do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle
> the logistics (Thanks J).....
> >
> > All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
> >
> >
> >
> > How's is?
> >
> > cheers,
> > Mohsen
> > _______________________________________________
> > music-bar mailing list
> > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sun Feb  1 12:50:06 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 12:50:06 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <02c201d03e14$32573b30$9705b190$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CC3DA43D-9393-4567-9502-98069217EE7E@joostschuttelaar.nl>
 <02c201d03e14$32573b30$9705b190$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <E09081F0-4359-48F1-9A97-3D46547C66AE@joostschuttelaar.nl>

For participation with the RPM, all tracks have to be in at the 28th. If someone from the -bar wants to master all tracks, I think we should have ?em all ready the weekend of the 22nd, so that there is at least a week of mastering time.

I volunteer to put up a webpage with music playing again :)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 01 Feb 2015, at 12:42, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Well done, Joost.
> 
> Is there a deadline?  End of Feb?
> 
> ta
> 
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
>> Sent: 01 February 2015 11:05
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
>> 
>> Alright! FTP details:
>> 
>> ftp://rpm.music-bar.org/
>> 
>> Login with: rpm14, password: rpm14.
>> 
>> Anything you upload in /public_html is visible to the world at:
>> 
>> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/
>> 
>> So put your WIP MP3s in there and post ?em to the -bar! :)
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Joost Schuttelaar
>> The Hague, NL
>> 
>>> On 01 Feb 2015, at 08:32, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we
>> do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle
>> the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>> 
>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How's is?
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Mohsen
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> music-bar mailing list
>>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From andrew at bml.co.uk  Sun Feb  1 15:04:48 2015
From: andrew at bml.co.uk (Andrew Robinson)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 14:04:48 +0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>

OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?

On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
wrote:

> Good idea.
>
>
>
> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the
> arse..
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> London
>
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>
>
>
> *From:* deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 01 February 2015 07:32
> *To:* Music-bar
> *Subject:* Let's Do RPM 2015
>
>
>
> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we
> do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle
> the logistics (Thanks J).....
>
> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>
>
> How's is?
>
> cheers,
> Mohsen
>
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>
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From noisetheorem at outlook.com  Sun Feb  1 16:15:34 2015
From: noisetheorem at outlook.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 09:15:34 -0600
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY179-W3980CF1B1E7A3B2D5A9A3CCE3F0@phx.gbl>

I've already started planning mine.  I am hoping to finish getting the studio setup (moved to a different room in the house) today so I can get working on the first piece.
Tony

Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2015 23:32:10 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com
To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org

Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....

All we need is a theme to get everyone going.



How's is?

cheers,
Mohsen


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From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 16:47:38 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 17:47:38 +0200
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <58C83B29-C11F-4CE6-AF74-9EFDBB2EBE2E@gmail.com>

Hi all!

> How's is?


I?m in. Hope to finish it in time as well :-)

Cheers,

	Kim

From nigel at 4trak.net  Sun Feb  1 17:50:19 2015
From: nigel at 4trak.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 08:50:19 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA7dtZLX_W0sXKKJwDJ=C6ipa_KV_-097h+jmf1j1B_LW=tTkQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a
month there.

Theme?

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:

> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>
> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Good idea.
>>
>>
>>
>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the
>> arse..
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> London
>>
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 01 February 2015 07:32
>> *To:* Music-bar
>> *Subject:* Let's Do RPM 2015
>>
>>
>>
>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we
>> do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle
>> the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>
>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>
>>
>> How's is?
>>
>> cheers,
>> Mohsen
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 19:49:15 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:49:15 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZLX_W0sXKKJwDJ=C6ipa_KV_-097h+jmf1j1B_LW=tTkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <9B8A9FDD-123A-4BE7-A5B1-540513CD1528@gmail.com>

in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.

If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme

I'm in.

Mohsen



> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
> 
> Theme? 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>> 
>>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Good idea.
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Paul
>>> 
>>> London
>>> 
>>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
>>> Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
>>> To: Music-bar
>>> Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>> 
>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> How's is?
>>> 
>>> cheers,
>>> Mohsen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> music-bar mailing list
>>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
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From nigel at 4trak.net  Sun Feb  1 19:50:20 2015
From: nigel at 4trak.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 10:50:20 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <9B8A9FDD-123A-4BE7-A5B1-540513CD1528@gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAA7dtZKXFSq6kWxDrJhE7vS+mfLxS4Qwm0rdHrnBEk4wHW=sXA@mail.gmail.com>

How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?

Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.



On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:

> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.
> Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
>
> If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a
> suggetted theme
>
> I'm in.
>
> Mohsen
>
>
>
> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>
> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a
> month there.
>
> Theme?
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>>
>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Good idea.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up
>>> the arse..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> London
>>>
>>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* 01 February 2015 07:32
>>> *To:* Music-bar
>>> *Subject:* Let's Do RPM 2015
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we
>>> do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle
>>> the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>>
>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>>
>>>
>>> How's is?
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Mohsen
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> music-bar mailing list
>>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From canine at waf80.de  Sun Feb  1 20:12:52 2015
From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 20:12:52 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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And must contain the sound of a common household object... And a field recording of a place no more than 100km from your house. And the track should end with a red sound. 

I'm getting the hang of this! ;-)

Sent from my phone

On 01.02.2015, at 19:50, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:

> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
> 
> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
>> 
>> If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme
>> 
>> I'm in.
>> 
>> Mohsen
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
>>> 
>>> Theme? 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>> Good idea.
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> London
>>>>> 
>>>>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
>>>>> Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
>>>>> To: Music-bar
>>>>> Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>>>> 
>>>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> How's is?
>>>>> 
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Mohsen
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> music-bar mailing list
>>>>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>>>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 21:16:25 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 22:16:25 +0200
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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!

> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?

Great idea!

> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.

Heh, already did that :-)

Cheers,

Kim

From deeplfo at gmail.com  Sun Feb  1 22:17:43 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2015 13:17:43 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Great idea, let's do that.

So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...


Mohsen

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:

> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
>
> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.
>> Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
>>
>> If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a
>> suggetted theme
>>
>> I'm in.
>>
>> Mohsen
>>
>>
>>
>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>>
>> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a
>> month there.
>>
>> Theme?
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>>>
>>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good idea.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up
>>>> the arse..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul
>>>>
>>>> London
>>>>
>>>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* 01 February 2015 07:32
>>>> *To:* Music-bar
>>>> *Subject:* Let's Do RPM 2015
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose
>>>> we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to
>>>> handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>>>
>>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> How's is?
>>>>
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Mohsen
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> music-bar mailing list
>>>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Tue Feb  3 09:30:21 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 09:30:21 +0100
Subject: four tape recorder techniques for minimal techno: looping, delay,
 reverse delay and saturation
Message-ID: <E0BC45C7-A950-42FB-8E79-49AD33EC0323@gmail.com>

I quite like the trip, and gives me some inspirations :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTe3Gy8uff8&index=24&list=RDt8t17yEHHUQ



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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Tue Feb  3 10:55:00 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 10:55:00 +0100
Subject: four tape recorder techniques for minimal techno: looping, delay,
 reverse delay and saturation
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Very nice.

I remember working with taperecorders. I had an Akai 2-track which I used for sound on sound recordings. I used a vinyl elpee with drum rhythm as backing. In 1981 I made the first demo with songs for my band :-)

In the nineties I had a Fostex B16 for multi track recording. Big hassle :-)

Gert
www.gertvansanten.nl

> Op 3 feb. 2015 om 09:30 heeft Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> I quite like the trip, and gives me some inspirations :)
> 
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTe3Gy8uff8&index=24&list=RDt8t17yEHHUQ
> 
> 
> 
> Romain 
> 
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From kai at kainiggemann.com  Tue Feb  3 14:14:55 2015
From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2015 14:14:55 +0100
Subject: four tape recorder techniques for minimal techno: looping, delay,
 reverse delay and saturation
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On 03.02.2015, at 10:55, Gert van Santen <g.vansanten at upcmail.nl> wrote:

> I had an Akai 2-track

A few years ago a friend gave me an Akai 2-track reel-to-reel. I just googled it and was bewildered that a few of these machines (the exact same eI have) were going as over 1000 EURs. I'm getting mine repaired now -- to use it, not to sell..;)

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From andrew at bml.co.uk  Wed Feb  4 15:18:19 2015
From: andrew at bml.co.uk (Andrew Robinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:18:19 +0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Bad singing + cheap mic + autotune + reverb = reasonable approximation of
fairlight oohs and ahhs.

Rough demo:

https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/rpm15v0001

- Andy_R

On 1 February 2015 at 21:17, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great idea, let's do that.
>
> So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...
>
>
> Mohsen
>
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>
>> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
>>
>> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.
>>> Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
>>>
>>> If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a
>>> suggetted theme
>>>
>>> I'm in.
>>>
>>> Mohsen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a
>>> month there.
>>>
>>> Theme?
>>>
>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>>>>
>>>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Good idea.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up
>>>>> the arse..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> London
>>>>>
>>>>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* 01 February 2015 07:32
>>>>> *To:* Music-bar
>>>>> *Subject:* Let's Do RPM 2015
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose
>>>>> we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to
>>>>> handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>>>>
>>>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> How's is?
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers,
>>>>> Mohsen
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> music-bar mailing list
>>>>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>>>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Wed Feb  4 15:23:03 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:23:03 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Andrew Robinson schreef op 4-2-2015 om 15:18:
> Bad singing + cheap mic + autotune + reverb = reasonable
> approximation of fairlight oohs and ahhs.
>
> Rough demo:
>
> https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/rpm15v0001
>
> - Andy_R
>

Very beautiful!

I would love to hear some "fairlight" voices in the higher 
regions. Not all the time, just as a surprise :-)

-- 
Gert

gert van santen
www.gertvansanten.nl

From andrew at bml.co.uk  Wed Feb  4 15:25:53 2015
From: andrew at bml.co.uk (Andrew Robinson)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 14:25:53 +0000
Subject: Aphex Twin archive on soundcloud
Message-ID: <CA+Y59G4sPOPrHo5-O9sGKv_0HPXW04fFbdVFJrCjwfBRu0cNVA@mail.gmail.com>

I don't think this has been mentioned on the bar yet?
https://soundcloud.com/user48736353001 is the Aphex Twin. So far he's
uploaded about 150 unreleased tracks, all with free download option turned
on...

- Andy_R
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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Wed Feb  4 15:37:27 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Wed, 04 Feb 2015 15:37:27 +0100
Subject: Aphex Twin archive on soundcloud
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G4sPOPrHo5-O9sGKv_0HPXW04fFbdVFJrCjwfBRu0cNVA@mail.gmail.com>
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Andrew Robinson schreef op 4-2-2015 om 15:25:
> I don't think this has been mentioned on the bar yet?
> https://soundcloud.com/user48736353001 is the Aphex Twin. So far
> he's uploaded about 150 unreleased tracks, all with free download
> option turned on...

Very nice. Listening now :-)

-- 
Gert

gert van santen
www.gertvansanten.nl

From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 16:28:07 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:28:07 -0500
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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If my Sub37 gets here in time maybe her and I will do a duet.

On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:17 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great idea, let's do that.
> 
> So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...
> 
> 
> Mohsen
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
> 
> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
> 
> If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme
> 
> I'm in.
> 
> Mohsen
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> 
>> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
>> 
>> Theme? 
>> 
>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>> 
>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>> Good idea.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> London
>> 
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
>> 
>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> How's is?
>> 
>> cheers,
>> Mohsen
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>> 
>> 
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From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 17:45:05 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Player one half an hour ago. If it had not been out of stock I would have bougth one...

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 4 feb 2015 kl. 16:28 skrev Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>:
> 
> If my Sub37 gets here in time maybe her and I will do a duet.
> 
>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:17 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Great idea, let's do that.
>> 
>> So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...
>> 
>> 
>> Mohsen
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>>> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
>>> 
>>> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
>>>> 
>>>> If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme
>>>> 
>>>> I'm in.
>>>> 
>>>> Mohsen
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Theme? 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> Good idea.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Paul
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> London
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
>>>>>>> Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
>>>>>>> To: Music-bar
>>>>>>> Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> How's is?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> cheers,
>>>>>>> Mohsen
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> music-bar mailing list
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
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>>>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>>> 
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> 
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From noisetheorem at outlook.com  Wed Feb  4 18:06:19 2015
From: noisetheorem at outlook.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 11:06:19 -0600
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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I am really interested in the Sub37.  I really like the new sequencing firmware that was added.  If I hadn't just bought a DSI Pro2, I'd be looking seriously at one (and probably will in the near future). I'm going Pro 2, Octatrack and Analogue Rytm on my RPM track.  Frank (my modular has a name) will be featured as well. Tony
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com
Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:28:07 -0500
To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org

If my Sub37 gets here in time maybe her and I will do a duet.
On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:17 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:Great idea, let's do that.

So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...


Mohsen

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 
at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.


On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
If you think we should theme it, then reply a
s such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme
I'm in.
Mohsen


On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:

I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
Theme? 
On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
Good idea. We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse.. <
span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">PaulLondonwww.punkdisco.co.uk From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
To: Music-bar
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015 Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....All we need is a theme to get everyone going.


How's is?cheers,
Mohsen
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From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 18:12:06 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 19:12:06 +0200
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Tony wrote:

> I'm going Pro 2, Octatrack and Analogue Rytm on my RPM track.  Frank (my modular has a name) will be featured as well. 

Mine is called Frank as well :-). And he?s contributed one arpeggio so far.

Cheers,

	Kim

> From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com <mailto:andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:28:07 -0500
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> 
> If my Sub37 gets here in time maybe her and I will do a duet.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:17 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com <mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Great idea, let's do that.
> 
> So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...
> 
> 
> Mohsen
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net <mailto:nigel at 4trak.net>> wrote:
> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
> 
> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com <mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com>> wrote:
> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
> 
> If you think we should theme it, then reply a s such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme
> 
> I'm in.
> 
> Mohsen
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net <mailto:nigel at 4trak.net>> wrote:
> 
> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
> 
> Theme? 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk <mailto:andrew at bml.co.uk>> wrote:
> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
> 
> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk <mailto:forums at punkdisco.co.uk>> wrote:
> Good idea.
>  
> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..
>  
> < span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk <http://www.punkdisco.co.uk/>
>  
> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com <mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com>] 
> Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
>  
> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
> 
> 
> How's is?
> cheers,
> Mohsen
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar <http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar>
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From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 18:14:58 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:14:58 -0500
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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I?ve realized Moog oscillators making a Dyad or a chord is my favorite sound ever. There is just so much going on there.

On Feb 4, 2015, at 11:45 AM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> Player one half an hour ago. If it had not been out of stock I would have bougth one...
> 
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
> 
> 4 feb 2015 kl. 16:28 skrev Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com>:
> 
>> If my Sub37 gets here in time maybe her and I will do a duet.
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:17 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Great idea, let's do that.
>>> 
>>> So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Mohsen
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>>> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
>>> 
>>> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
>>> 
>>> If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme
>>> 
>>> I'm in.
>>> 
>>> Mohsen
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
>>>> 
>>>> Theme? 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
>>>> 
>>>> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> Good idea.
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> London
>>>> 
>>>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
>>>> Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
>>>> To: Music-bar
>>>> Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
>>>> 
>>>> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> How's is?
>>>> 
>>>> cheers,
>>>> Mohsen
>>>> 
>>>> 
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From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 18:21:12 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 12:21:12 -0500
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W97AC35CFA965EF9B6C46BCE3A0@phx.gbl>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>,
 <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>,
 <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>,
 <CAA7dtZLX_W0sXKKJwDJ=C6ipa_KV_-097h+jmf1j1B_LW=tTkQ@mail.gmail.com>,
 <9B8A9FDD-123A-4BE7-A5B1-540513CD1528@gmail.com>,
 <CAA7dtZKXFSq6kWxDrJhE7vS+mfLxS4Qwm0rdHrnBEk4wHW=sXA@mail.gmail.com>,
 <CAMbtJi4N1YMD=u+M7a1R5v2eA3eA8vRH5cr2Zz06iWGZYqsBsw@mail.gmail.com>,
 <51F91527-F657-4EAB-8F02-7D3DF596BFE4@gmail.com>
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Yea the new stuff looks good, plus just hitting the button or knob to select it for modulation. I considered the Pro2 but don?t really need another tight analog, wanted something a little sloppier, if you know what I mean. The Prophet 6 would be right up my ally, but expensive and not out for a while.

On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Tony Scharf <noisetheorem at outlook.com> wrote:

> I am really interested in the Sub37.  I really like the new sequencing firmware that was added.  If I hadn't just bought a DSI Pro2, I'd be looking seriously at one (and probably will in the near future). 
> 
> I'm going Pro 2, Octatrack and Analogue Rytm on my RPM track.  Frank (my modular has a name) will be featured as well. 
> 
> Tony
> 
> From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com
> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 10:28:07 -0500
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> 
> If my Sub37 gets here in time maybe her and I will do a duet.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2015, at 4:17 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Great idea, let's do that.
> 
> So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...
> 
> 
> Mohsen
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
> 
> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com>wrote:
> in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.
> 
> If you think we should theme it, then reply a s such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme
> 
> I'm in.
> 
> Mohsen
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.
> 
> Theme? 
> 
> On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:
> OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?
> 
> On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO<forums at punkdisco.co.uk>wrote:
> Good idea.
>  
> We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..
>  
> < span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>  
> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com]
> Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
>  
> Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....
> All we need is a theme to get everyone going.
> 
> 
> How's is?
> cheers,
> Mohsen
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
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> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Wed Feb  4 19:57:04 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 18:57:04 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G7M7f=MMVZF-meqJhENbQuy8JeN2XJ9_Oa2obRMZeYyFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
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Good work Andy.  Lovely sounding track..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew at bml.co.uk] 
Sent: 04 February 2015 14:18
To: Music-bar
Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015

 

Bad singing + cheap mic + autotune + reverb = reasonable approximation of fairlight oohs and ahhs.

 

Rough demo:

 

https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/rpm15v0001

 

- Andy_R

 

On 1 February 2015 at 21:17, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com <mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com> > wrote:

Great idea, let's do that.

So, the constraint is to have somewhere, your own voice baked in...



Mohsen

 

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net <mailto:nigel at 4trak.net> > wrote:

How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?

 

Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.

 

 

 

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 10:49 AM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com <mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com> > wrote:

in the past we picked a theme, but should we do that or let it be open.  Themes do have pros...so I'm up for either way.

 

If you think we should theme it, then reply as such and perhaps offer a suggetted theme

 

I'm in.

 

Mohsen

 


On Feb 1, 2015, at 8:50 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net <mailto:nigel at 4trak.net> > wrote:

I'm in! I've been churning things out lately after getting stuck for a month there.

 

Theme? 

 

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 6:04 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk <mailto:andrew at bml.co.uk> > wrote:

OK, I'm in... are we having a theme this year?

 

On 1 February 2015 at 10:29, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk <mailto:forums at punkdisco.co.uk> > wrote:

Good idea.

 

We have not finished anything in 18months or more.  We need a kick up the arse..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk <http://www.punkdisco.co.uk> 

 

From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com <mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com> ] 
Sent: 01 February 2015 07:32
To: Music-bar
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015

 

Considering how folks have been pretty creative these days, I propose we do a RPM album together for 2015.  Joost has nodded at being able to handle the logistics (Thanks J).....

All we need is a theme to get everyone going.



How's is?

cheers,
Mohsen

 

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From ibisum at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 21:46:29 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 21:46:29 +0100
Subject: Goodbye, Guitar Centre .. 
Message-ID: <0E731BC9-EA32-41F7-8245-611584BE2700@gmail.com>

Wow:

"None of this sells guitars or inspires kids to be better musicians in a world where laptops play the tunes.?


http://www.ericgarland.co/2015/02/03/end-guitar-center/

Could be very interesting when it happens .. it may shake things up in the musical-instrument industry in profound ways, methinks, not least of which will be the end of the ?can?t f?in hear myself think while shopping for headphones? era that I was so indoctrinated by during the 90?s visits to GC and Sam Ash and the like ..


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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Wed Feb  4 23:01:09 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 23:01:09 +0100
Subject: four tape recorder techniques for minimal techno: looping, delay,
 reverse delay and saturation
In-Reply-To: <CB8BD06D-3E57-4DA8-9215-BE995322078F@upcmail.nl>
References: <E0BC45C7-A950-42FB-8E79-49AD33EC0323@gmail.com>
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Gert, i got few old tape recorders at home in france ( don t remember the brand ) but I never got the time to experiment this them yet? 

Now i m curious, Do you have still those song ? :)
For me the nineties makes think of DAT ?




Romain 




On 03 Feb 2015, at 10:55, Gert van Santen <g.vansanten at upcmail.nl> wrote:

> Very nice.
> 
> I remember working with taperecorders. I had an Akai 2-track which I used for sound on sound recordings. I used a vinyl elpee with drum rhythm as backing. In 1981 I made the first demo with songs for my band :-)
> 
> In the nineties I had a Fostex B16 for multi track recording. Big hassle :-)
> 
> Gert
> www.gertvansanten.nl
> 
> Op 3 feb. 2015 om 09:30 heeft Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
>> I quite like the trip, and gives me some inspirations :)
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTe3Gy8uff8&index=24&list=RDt8t17yEHHUQ
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>> 
>> 
>> Romain 
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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Wed Feb  4 23:08:06 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 23:08:06 +0100
Subject: four tape recorder techniques for minimal techno: looping, delay,
 reverse delay and saturation
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References: <E0BC45C7-A950-42FB-8E79-49AD33EC0323@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <268FEAB5-1EE5-4831-8AFC-FBB3031889D2@upcmail.nl>

Hi Romain,

I have recorded demo's on an Akai 2-track tape recorder in 1981 and/or 1982. I "mastered" the demo's to a cassette tape, that I probably still have in a cupboard somewhere. I don't have the "big" tapes anymore, that I recorded on the Akai tape recorder.

I also have some 25 16-track tapes that I did on the Fostex B-16. Sold the Fostex many, many moons ago. Quite a few of those songs were transfered to HD and mastered for personal use.

Cheers,

Gert
www.gertvansanten.nl

> Op 4 feb. 2015 om 23:01 heeft Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Gert, i got few old tape recorders at home in france ( don t remember the brand ) but I never got the time to experiment this them yet? 
> 
> Now i m curious, Do you have still those song ? :)
> For me the nineties makes think of DAT ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Romain 

From dave.silvester at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 02:52:47 2015
From: dave.silvester at gmail.com (Dave S)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 01:52:47 +0000
Subject: Caustic 3 on Android... OMG!
Message-ID: <CANzJ5Xfxg8k0qxX0O7cLujqgJTo1c-kyy=EEcDUzoa2aM3HguA@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Bar! No doubt you already all know about this and I'm late to the
party? I just this evening accidentally found Caustic 3 for Android while
searching for a Rebirth-alike to make simple basslines and drums on, and
holy fuck this thing is good! See:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.singlecellsoftware.caustic

I purchased it (?6... seriously WTF!?) within about 5 minutes of trying the
demo.

The user interface is incredible and responsive, intuitive with great use
of space. I can't believe this is actually possible on a phone and not only
that but EASY, like ridiculously so.

Built in FX are great and it even has basic mastering tools and render to
file (haven't tried that yet).

I'm actually in a state of shock, I kid you not! I'm gonna write an album
on this thing - it might even become my main workstation because it's soooo
portable and instant.

I'll try to post some tunes soon. Already my first mess around has turned
into something worth keeping.

Ridiculously cool piece of software!

BTW is there an Ampfea team entering the RPM this year?

Cheers!

Dave
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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 06:12:39 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 21:12:39 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Message-ID: <CAMbtJi4J6=xpFvtVSjjWVGbo_4TGkcLTYCSJANXXTcSHdBigLQ@mail.gmail.com>

Nice one.



On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:18 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:

> Bad singing + cheap mic + autotune + reverb = reasonable approximation of
> fairlight oohs and ahhs.
>
> Rough demo:
>
> https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/rpm15v0001
>
> - Andy_R
>
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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 06:17:45 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2015 21:17:45 -0800
Subject: Aphex Twin archive on soundcloud
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G4sPOPrHo5-O9sGKv_0HPXW04fFbdVFJrCjwfBRu0cNVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Y59G4sPOPrHo5-O9sGKv_0HPXW04fFbdVFJrCjwfBRu0cNVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi753XQVX0U85A7KessRNT9N=hcNRTiKOsCY=8Zj9o0N2g@mail.gmail.com>

Great find Andy, thanks for sharing.

Mohsen

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:25 AM, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:

> I don't think this has been mentioned on the bar yet?
> https://soundcloud.com/user48736353001 is the Aphex Twin. So far he's
> uploaded about 150 unreleased tracks, all with free download option turned
> on...
>
> - Andy_R
>
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Thu Feb  5 08:36:58 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 07:36:58 +0000
Subject: Caustic 3 on Android... OMG!
In-Reply-To: <CANzJ5Xfxg8k0qxX0O7cLujqgJTo1c-kyy=EEcDUzoa2aM3HguA@mail.gmail.com>
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Looks nice.. I'll watch the video later.

Good find!!

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: "Dave S" <dave.silvester at gmail.com>
Sent: ?05/?02/?2015 01:53
To: "Music-bar" <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: Caustic 3 on Android... OMG!

Hey Bar! No doubt you already all know about this and I'm late to the party? I just this evening accidentally found Caustic 3 for Android while searching for a Rebirth-alike to make simple basslines and drums on, and holy fuck this thing is good! See:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.singlecellsoftware.caustic
I purchased it (?6... seriously WTF!?) within about 5 minutes of trying the demo.
The user interface is incredible and responsive, intuitive with great use of space. I can't believe this is actually possible on a phone and not only that but EASY, like ridiculously so.
Built in FX are great and it even has basic mastering tools and render to file (haven't tried that yet).
I'm actually in a state of shock, I kid you not! I'm gonna write an album on this thing - it might even become my main workstation because it's soooo portable and instant.
I'll try to post some tunes soon. Already my first mess around has turned into something worth keeping.
Ridiculously cool piece of software!
BTW is there an Ampfea team entering the RPM this year?
Cheers!
Dave
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 10:55:47 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 10:55:47 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <54D22B47.40500@upcmail.nl>
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 <54D22B47.40500@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <64DB381F-386D-48A2-8596-C36CBF3459B4@gmail.com>

cool :)


Romain 




On 04 Feb 2015, at 15:23, Gert van Santen <g.vansanten at upcmail.nl> wrote:

>> 
>> https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/rpm15v0001

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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 11:48:15 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 02:48:15 -0800
Subject: My rpm-2015
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi7sMGxCcwX-tHTW23fiFKWxbQkDqk7eBF7Qrdwz+tYDAg@mail.gmail.com>

Here is what I'm working on....listen carefully for the lyrics :-)

https://soundcloud.com/deeplfo/zig-zag-edit

- m o H s e n
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 12:28:01 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:28:01 +0100
Subject: Caustic 3 on Android... OMG!
In-Reply-To: <CANzJ5Xfxg8k0qxX0O7cLujqgJTo1c-kyy=EEcDUzoa2aM3HguA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANzJ5Xfxg8k0qxX0O7cLujqgJTo1c-kyy=EEcDUzoa2aM3HguA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B43192C8-4ED4-4EB1-BBD6-4EBEA1396AFC@gmail.com>

> Hey Bar! No doubt you already all know about this and I'm late to the party? I just this evening accidentally found Caustic 3 for Android while searching for a Rebirth-alike to make simple basslines and drums on, and holy fuck this thing is good! See:
> 


Wow, nice find!  I?m looking forward to hearing what you do with it .. of course I?m spoiled with my iOS machines jammed packed full of audio software, so its good to see this for Android too .. What are you running it on?  No problems with latency?



> BTW is there an Ampfea team entering the RPM this year?

Yes!  :)


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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 12:51:55 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:51:55 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZKXFSq6kWxDrJhE7vS+mfLxS4Qwm0rdHrnBEk4wHW=sXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <31284466-6DE5-496E-B11D-E2FA5F643D5E@gmail.com>

> How about less of a theme, and more of a constraint?
> Every track must have your own voice in it somewhere.



Cool theme, I am in!


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From dave.silvester at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 19:47:14 2015
From: dave.silvester at gmail.com (Dave S)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 18:47:14 +0000
Subject: Caustic 3 on Android... OMG!
In-Reply-To: <B43192C8-4ED4-4EB1-BBD6-4EBEA1396AFC@gmail.com>
References: <CANzJ5Xfxg8k0qxX0O7cLujqgJTo1c-kyy=EEcDUzoa2aM3HguA@mail.gmail.com>
 <B43192C8-4ED4-4EB1-BBD6-4EBEA1396AFC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CANzJ5XeJhNW=wONVz2Ycw+H4RxpDVHbf7QKuf08sgsmmNh8BVw@mail.gmail.com>

Samsung Galaxy S3 Mini. 1GHz processor and not a particularly big screen.
Hardly any noticeable latency probs and even recording in real time using
the (multi-touch!) on-screen keyboard is very doable. Piano roll editor is
nice! It has a modular synth, C64ish thing, FM, PCM, pad synth (additive
seems like?), subtractive, 303, drum sample player, vocoder... damn. I
haven't found if you can use custom samples yet, no obvious sampler that I
can spot but vocoder seems likely.

Think it was written by a games programmer. Interface is all OpenGL
apparently.

I'm still blown away. Can't wait to dig in more. Expect a tune pretty soon!

Cheers,

Dave
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From mszulen at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 20:38:44 2015
From: mszulen at gmail.com (Marek Szulen)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 20:38:44 +0100
Subject: Raspberry Pi 2
Message-ID: <2BD12A2A-E630-4BC6-83EA-B4231E687C8B@gmail.com>

This week a new, quad core version of the rPi has been released: Raspberry Pi 2 model B.
I?m testing it now.
Wow! Openelec (xbmc) works like a charm. No slowdowns like on previous version. 

Now, my old rPi can get new life as an Arduino companion :)

From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb  5 22:54:43 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 22:54:43 +0100
Subject: Raspberry Pi 2
In-Reply-To: <2BD12A2A-E630-4BC6-83EA-B4231E687C8B@gmail.com>
References: <2BD12A2A-E630-4BC6-83EA-B4231E687C8B@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2861BB7A-CDA6-47FC-B365-52161F3E4B45@gmail.com>

> 
> This week a new, quad core version of the rPi has been released: Raspberry Pi 2 model B.
> I?m testing it now. Wow! Openelec (xbmc) works like a charm. No slowdowns like on previous version.

Sweet!  You got it already?  That is nice!

> Now, my old rPi can get new life as an Arduino companion :)

Cool!  Love to hear about these ..

;
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ibisum at gmail.com

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb  6 13:28:28 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 6 Feb 2015 12:28:28 -0000
Subject: My rpm-2015
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi7sMGxCcwX-tHTW23fiFKWxbQkDqk7eBF7Qrdwz+tYDAg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7sMGxCcwX-tHTW23fiFKWxbQkDqk7eBF7Qrdwz+tYDAg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <098e01d04208$6b3fcfa0$41bf6ee0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Nice..  Yep, missed the vocals :)

 

Good one Mohsen..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
Sent: 05 February 2015 10:48
To: Music-bar
Subject: My rpm-2015

 

Here is what I'm working on....listen carefully for the lyrics :-)

https://soundcloud.com/deeplfo/zig-zag-edit

- m o H s e n

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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 01:23:08 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 16:23:08 -0800
Subject: Saturday Night Stream
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi7r=5x528bVV7bofoEbxrmXEx9quzdvESw2xbfyp8Kqwg@mail.gmail.com>

Music.....


http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deeplfo


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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Sun Feb  8 09:44:53 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 00:44:53 -0800
Subject: Early Morning Music
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi6sMB3M9YS5L0kERo-huQ7M6zzaTxSFFqxa=yWp+hKFXg@mail.gmail.com>

:-)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deeplfo

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sun Feb  8 10:56:50 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 09:56:50 -0000
Subject: Early Morning Music
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi6sMB3M9YS5L0kERo-huQ7M6zzaTxSFFqxa=yWp+hKFXg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi6sMB3M9YS5L0kERo-huQ7M6zzaTxSFFqxa=yWp+hKFXg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <04cc01d04385$91b16da0$b51448e0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Oops.. Up to late again  :(

 

Hope you had fun..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
Sent: 08 February 2015 08:45
To: Music-bar
Subject: Early Morning Music

 

:-)

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deeplfo

- m o H s e n

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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Sun Feb  8 11:09:48 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Sun, 8 Feb 2015 11:09:48 +0100
Subject: Early Morning Music
In-Reply-To: <04cc01d04385$91b16da0$b51448e0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <CAMbtJi6sMB3M9YS5L0kERo-huQ7M6zzaTxSFFqxa=yWp+hKFXg@mail.gmail.com>
 <04cc01d04385$91b16da0$b51448e0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1D0B48E4-3309-4839-9671-0A47F8147D19@upcmail.nl>

Same here :-(

Gert
www.gertvansanten.nl

> Op 8 feb. 2015 om 10:56 heeft foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Oops.. Up to late again  L
>  
> Hope you had fun..
>  
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>  
> From: deeplfo [mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com] 
> Sent: 08 February 2015 08:45
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Early Morning Music
>  
> :-)
> 
> http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deeplfo
> 
> - m o H s e n
> _______________________________________________
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From peter at severity-one.com  Tue Feb 10 21:24:10 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 21:24:10 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
Message-ID: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>

Some of you may know that I own an EX5 ;-) and that I try to load it 
with all possible extras. So it's got four additional outputs, SCSI, 64 
MB RAM, and 16 MB Flash memory. The one thing really missing was getting 
the latest OS.

You may remember Tim's (random variate) offer on this list to get you 
the latest OS. So I took him up on that, and for a very reasonable fee 
(basically cost price) he delivered the four chips. Replacing them is 
fairly easy, although I would recommend buying a chip puller. You could 
perhaps get away with using a small screwdriver, but there isn't really 
enough space if you only remove the large metal plate in the bottom. 
(The one you remove if you want to install SCSI or replace the battery.)

Even though I managed to bend two pins between chip and socket - Tim 
quickly helped identify this problem, which I managed to overlook when 
doing the visual check - the chips were inserted properly in the end.

Boot up, and everything worked! Large samples now load in a manner of 
seconds. ;-) OK, the latter is not true, and cannot be solved because of 
the design of the EX5, but at least this takes care of the bugs (and 
there have been quite a few) in the earlier versions of the EX5 OS.

Given the price of the upgrade, and given the value your EX5/EX5R/EX7 
has for you, I think it's well worth it.

No, I'm not getting paid for this endorsement. :-)

Thanks again to Tim,

- Peter

From ibisum at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 22:15:59 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 22:15:59 +0100
Subject: Nice Musical Toy from Google I/O 2015 ..
Message-ID: <2D99C7B6-6F4F-4635-ABE8-32CFFD505EC5@gmail.com>


If you go here:

https://events.google.com/io2015/#

And click the little mixer icon on the right hand side (its animated), you gain access to a pretty interesting web-based music studio experiment .. haven?t found a way to save my recordings, but I was able to make a pretty nice 10 minute jam with this thing .. don?t forget to scroll down and check out the multiple instruments!

;
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Tue Feb 10 23:00:46 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 23:00:46 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
Message-ID: <0867A3F4-052B-4FC7-9844-623C86CD2A32@gmail.com>

> Given the price of the upgrade, and given the value your EX5/EX5R/EX7 has for you, I think it's well worth it.
> No, I'm not getting paid for this endorsement. :-)
> Thanks again to Tim,
> - Peter


Great work guys!  Glad to hear you?ve finally turned your EX5 on after all these years, Peter .. ;)



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From peter at severity-one.com  Wed Feb 11 22:16:20 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 22:16:20 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <0867A3F4-052B-4FC7-9844-623C86CD2A32@gmail.com>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
 <0867A3F4-052B-4FC7-9844-623C86CD2A32@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54DBC6A4.3020507@severity-one.com>

ibi sum schreef op 10-2-2015 om 23:00:

> Glad to hear you?ve finally turned your EX5 on after all these years, Peter .. ;)

Well, put it this way. My priorities in life are as follows:
1) Family (primarily wife and child)
2) Work
3) My model train collection and forum where I volunteer
4) Music

Once I reach #3, there's already preciously little left. 2014 was a 
pretty rotten year, and 2015 hasn't started much better.

But I know that my beloved synths are there, waiting for me, whenever 
the mood may strike me.

- Peter

From randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk  Wed Feb 11 22:28:04 2015
From: randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk (random variate)
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2015 21:28:04 +0000
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS417F6211B09D76A3CC8DE45F5250@phx.gbl>

Thanks for the positive report Peter ?

Need to sell 10 more sets and I've paid for the programmer. Then I can focus on making music rather than mucking about with the technology.

(though if you have older kit, there's always a maintenance overhead)
________________________________
From: Peter Korsten<mailto:peter at severity-one.com>
Sent: ?10/?02/?2015 20:24
To: Music Bar<mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade

Some of you may know that I own an EX5 ;-) and that I try to load it
with all possible extras. So it's got four additional outputs, SCSI, 64
MB RAM, and 16 MB Flash memory. The one thing really missing was getting
the latest OS.

You may remember Tim's (random variate) offer on this list to get you
the latest OS. So I took him up on that, and for a very reasonable fee
(basically cost price) he delivered the four chips. Replacing them is
fairly easy, although I would recommend buying a chip puller. You could
perhaps get away with using a small screwdriver, but there isn't really
enough space if you only remove the large metal plate in the bottom.
(The one you remove if you want to install SCSI or replace the battery.)

Even though I managed to bend two pins between chip and socket - Tim
quickly helped identify this problem, which I managed to overlook when
doing the visual check - the chips were inserted properly in the end.

Boot up, and everything worked! Large samples now load in a manner of
seconds. ;-) OK, the latter is not true, and cannot be solved because of
the design of the EX5, but at least this takes care of the bugs (and
there have been quite a few) in the earlier versions of the EX5 OS.

Given the price of the upgrade, and given the value your EX5/EX5R/EX7
has for you, I think it's well worth it.

No, I'm not getting paid for this endorsement. :-)

Thanks again to Tim,

- Peter
_______________________________________________
music-bar mailing list
music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 06:22:42 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 06:22:42 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <54DBC6A4.3020507@severity-one.com>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
 <0867A3F4-052B-4FC7-9844-623C86CD2A32@gmail.com>
 <54DBC6A4.3020507@severity-one.com>
Message-ID: <643D3211-43C5-4277-80ED-385CB94EF5D4@gmail.com>

> 4) Music
> But I know that my beloved synths are there, waiting for me, whenever the mood may strike me.

A sentiment I share.


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From declan at degomusic.net  Thu Feb 12 10:10:03 2015
From: declan at degomusic.net (Declan Gorman)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:10:03 +0000
Subject: RPM 2015
Message-ID: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net>

Hey guys,
   I have a track that I started and finished in February so rather than 
just let it fester on SoundCloud I have decided to submit it as part of 
the music-bar RPM 2015 project.  It is a Drum & Bass track called 
SubStorm <https://soundcloud.com/dego/substorm> and my vocal is among 
the many ad-libs that I have used throughout the track. I hope it meets 
the criteria but if not please let me know and I will make some changes.

Regards,

Declan.
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 12:18:39 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:18:39 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
Message-ID: <D411E599-E071-4218-8143-F65667376584@gmail.com>

Yes, Thank you Tim !!
And Peter for the advises. By any chance, Peter, did you take pictures  while installing ? 

I didn t upgrade yet  cause the chips are still at Joost place :)
I m quite curious and very enthusiast  tho ? :)



Romain 




On 10 Feb 2015, at 21:24, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:

> Some of you may know that I own an EX5 ;-) and that I try to load it with all possible extras. So it's got four additional outputs, SCSI, 64 MB RAM, and 16 MB Flash memory. The one thing really missing was getting the latest OS.
> 
> You may remember Tim's (random variate) offer on this list to get you the latest OS. So I took him up on that, and for a very reasonable fee (basically cost price) he delivered the four chips. Replacing them is fairly easy, although I would recommend buying a chip puller. You could perhaps get away with using a small screwdriver, but there isn't really enough space if you only remove the large metal plate in the bottom. (The one you remove if you want to install SCSI or replace the battery.)
> 
> Even though I managed to bend two pins between chip and socket - Tim quickly helped identify this problem, which I managed to overlook when doing the visual check - the chips were inserted properly in the end.
> 
> Boot up, and everything worked! Large samples now load in a manner of seconds. ;-) OK, the latter is not true, and cannot be solved because of the design of the EX5, but at least this takes care of the bugs (and there have been quite a few) in the earlier versions of the EX5 OS.
> 
> Given the price of the upgrade, and given the value your EX5/EX5R/EX7 has for you, I think it's well worth it.
> 
> No, I'm not getting paid for this endorsement. :-)
> 
> Thanks again to Tim,
> 
> - Peter
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Feb 12 12:35:30 2015
From: randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk (random variate)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 11:35:30 +0000
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS3295BE02486CC7271E60E15F5220@phx.gbl>

Hi Romain

Peter confirmed that the IC numbers I labelled on the chips (which correspond to EX5r chip positions) are correct also for the EX5 keyboard.

Just look for the "IC" code on the PCB next to the socketed ROMs.

There is also a further indicator for Low and High chips.

Keep us informed on progress please.

Cheers

Tim
________________________________
From: Rom MUSIC BAR<mailto:xtechcode at gmail.com>
Sent: ?12/?02/?2015 11:18
To: Music-bar<mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: Re: EX5 ROM upgrade

Yes, Thank you Tim !!
And Peter for the advises. By any chance, Peter, did you take pictures  while installing ?

I didn t upgrade yet  cause the chips are still at Joost place :)
I m quite curious and very enthusiast  tho ? :)



Romain




On 10 Feb 2015, at 21:24, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:

> Some of you may know that I own an EX5 ;-) and that I try to load it with all possible extras. So it's got four additional outputs, SCSI, 64 MB RAM, and 16 MB Flash memory. The one thing really missing was getting the latest OS.
>
> You may remember Tim's (random variate) offer on this list to get you the latest OS. So I took him up on that, and for a very reasonable fee (basically cost price) he delivered the four chips. Replacing them is fairly easy, although I would recommend buying a chip puller. You could perhaps get away with using a small screwdriver, but there isn't really enough space if you only remove the large metal plate in the bottom. (The one you remove if you want to install SCSI or replace the battery.)
>
> Even though I managed to bend two pins between chip and socket - Tim quickly helped identify this problem, which I managed to overlook when doing the visual check - the chips were inserted properly in the end.
>
> Boot up, and everything worked! Large samples now load in a manner of seconds. ;-) OK, the latter is not true, and cannot be solved because of the design of the EX5, but at least this takes care of the bugs (and there have been quite a few) in the earlier versions of the EX5 OS.
>
> Given the price of the upgrade, and given the value your EX5/EX5R/EX7 has for you, I think it's well worth it.
>
> No, I'm not getting paid for this endorsement. :-)
>
> Thanks again to Tim,
>
> - Peter
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar

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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Thu Feb 12 12:40:07 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 12:40:07 +0100
Subject: RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net>
References: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net>
Message-ID: <54DC9117.9050807@upcmail.nl>

Declan Gorman schreef op 12-2-2015 om 10:10:
> Hey guys,
>    I have a track that I started and finished in February so
> rather than just let it fester on SoundCloud I have decided to
> submit it as part of the music-bar RPM 2015 project.  It is a
> Drum & Bass track called SubStorm
> <https://soundcloud.com/dego/substorm> and my vocal is among the
> many ad-libs that I have used throughout the track. I hope it
> meets the criteria but if not please let me know and I will make
> some changes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Declan.

Hi Declan,

I'm not into D&B (makes me nervous and agitated - hehe), but I 
like the things you did besides the rhythm section :-)

Cheers,

-- 
Gert

gert van santen
www.gertvansanten.nl

From declan at degomusic.net  Thu Feb 12 14:06:19 2015
From: declan at degomusic.net (Declan Gorman)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 13:06:19 +0000
Subject: RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <54DC9117.9050807@upcmail.nl>
References: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net> <54DC9117.9050807@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <54DCA54B.7040103@degomusic.net>

Hey Gert,
   I understand what you mean about the drum & bass rhythm.  It's 
something you either love or hate.

Regards,

Declan.

On 12/02/2015 11:40, Gert van Santen wrote:
> Declan Gorman schreef op 12-2-2015 om 10:10:
>> Hey guys,
>>    I have a track that I started and finished in February so
>> rather than just let it fester on SoundCloud I have decided to
>> submit it as part of the music-bar RPM 2015 project.  It is a
>> Drum & Bass track called SubStorm
>> <https://soundcloud.com/dego/substorm> and my vocal is among the
>> many ad-libs that I have used throughout the track. I hope it
>> meets the criteria but if not please let me know and I will make
>> some changes.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Declan.
>
> Hi Declan,
>
> I'm not into D&B (makes me nervous and agitated - hehe), but I like 
> the things you did besides the rhythm section :-)
>
> Cheers,
>


From peter at severity-one.com  Thu Feb 12 15:10:14 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:10:14 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <D411E599-E071-4218-8143-F65667376584@gmail.com>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
 <D411E599-E071-4218-8143-F65667376584@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAML7JVG-1QoWpsheKD-ssujOs+Af+Dscseqx2N531C5jOZipVg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Romain,

You could decide to get the EX5 out and put it upside down. That's probably
the safest way. If, like I, you have it on a stand, you may also decide to
put it up on the connector side. If you do that, you're basically working
upside down - not that this makes any difference.

After you remove the large metal plate from the bottom (about the size of a
10 inch tablet, you can't miss it), you're looking at the green circuit
board where you can also replace the battery, install the SCSI card, etc.
The side where the input/output connectors on the back of the synth are is
the "up" side when looking at the circuit board. If you put the synth on
connector side like I did, the "up" side is at the bottom. For the
following description, I'm assuming that "up" is up.

The four ROM chips are in the top left corner, partially obscured by a flat
cable. From top to bottom these are IC2, IC3, IC8 and IC9. What you need to
do is pull the chips out and replace them with the ones that Tim sent you.
They're clearly labelled, so you know which one goes where.

To get the chips out, I would recommend using a chip puller. There really
isn't enough space to do it with a screwdriver, although I loosened them a
bit from one side using a small screwdriver. A chip puller is a really
simple tool that you can buy at any electronics shop. Try not to touch the
pins of the chips, and preferably do this on a tile floor, not wearing
shoes. Keep the EX5 plugged into the wall socket, but switched off. This
way, you minimise the chance of damaging anything with static electricity.
Make sure you pull the chip and not the socket, or you'll ruin your EX5.

To push the chips in, first make sure they're properly aligned. There's a
little notch in one of the narrow sides, that has to line up with the notch
on the chip socket. It should be on the right. Then, carefully place the
chip over the socket, and make ABSOLUTELY 100% CERTAIN that the pins are
properly lined up with the holes. You don't want bent pins. It can be
fixed, but it's best to be avoided, because pins can easily break off.

Then, push the chip into the socket. It'll require a bit of force, and you
won't feel a click or anything. When the circuit board starts bending under
the pressure, the chip is inserted deeply enough. Push it both on the left
and the right side.

When all four chips are done, switch on the EX5 and see if it works. It may
take a little longer to start up the first time. If it works, you can screw
the metal plate back in its place.

That's it really. I didn't have any manual, but simply decided to go ahead,
and everything worked out.

Good luck!

- Peter

2015-02-12 12:18 GMT+01:00 Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com>:

> Yes, Thank you Tim !!
> And Peter for the advises. By any chance, Peter, did you take pictures
> while installing ?
>
> I didn t upgrade yet  cause the chips are still at Joost place :)
> I m quite curious and very enthusiast  tho ? :)
>
>
>
> Romain
>
>
>
>
> On 10 Feb 2015, at 21:24, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
>
> > Some of you may know that I own an EX5 ;-) and that I try to load it
> with all possible extras. So it's got four additional outputs, SCSI, 64 MB
> RAM, and 16 MB Flash memory. The one thing really missing was getting the
> latest OS.
> >
> > You may remember Tim's (random variate) offer on this list to get you
> the latest OS. So I took him up on that, and for a very reasonable fee
> (basically cost price) he delivered the four chips. Replacing them is
> fairly easy, although I would recommend buying a chip puller. You could
> perhaps get away with using a small screwdriver, but there isn't really
> enough space if you only remove the large metal plate in the bottom. (The
> one you remove if you want to install SCSI or replace the battery.)
> >
> > Even though I managed to bend two pins between chip and socket - Tim
> quickly helped identify this problem, which I managed to overlook when
> doing the visual check - the chips were inserted properly in the end.
> >
> > Boot up, and everything worked! Large samples now load in a manner of
> seconds. ;-) OK, the latter is not true, and cannot be solved because of
> the design of the EX5, but at least this takes care of the bugs (and there
> have been quite a few) in the earlier versions of the EX5 OS.
> >
> > Given the price of the upgrade, and given the value your EX5/EX5R/EX7
> has for you, I think it's well worth it.
> >
> > No, I'm not getting paid for this endorsement. :-)
> >
> > Thanks again to Tim,
> >
> > - Peter
> > _______________________________________________
> > music-bar mailing list
> > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Thu Feb 12 15:35:05 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:35:05 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <CAML7JVG-1QoWpsheKD-ssujOs+Af+Dscseqx2N531C5jOZipVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
 <D411E599-E071-4218-8143-F65667376584@gmail.com>
 <CAML7JVG-1QoWpsheKD-ssujOs+Af+Dscseqx2N531C5jOZipVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <A635827E-BA9E-4182-BFB8-9BD8111E632F@joostschuttelaar.nl>

On 12 Feb 2015, at 15:10, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:

> To get the chips out, I would recommend using a chip puller. 

Like this?

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Hot-PLCC-IC-Chip-Extractor-Motherboard-Circuit-Board-Component-Puller-Tool/612195_2030572836.html

1.36USD inc. shipping, AliExpress is crazy...

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

From mszulen at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 15:42:15 2015
From: mszulen at gmail.com (Marek Szulen)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:42:15 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <A635827E-BA9E-4182-BFB8-9BD8111E632F@joostschuttelaar.nl>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
 <D411E599-E071-4218-8143-F65667376584@gmail.com>
 <CAML7JVG-1QoWpsheKD-ssujOs+Af+Dscseqx2N531C5jOZipVg@mail.gmail.com>
 <A635827E-BA9E-4182-BFB8-9BD8111E632F@joostschuttelaar.nl>
Message-ID: <CAPXwgOJVKwhOyP5ydM62ZdMpJCNUB4toDw4KMpsdtvqFYnZ+Hg@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, it's a nice place :) haha
Recently I've got there an Arduino board for 2.50 Eur with shipping :)

2015-02-12 15:35 GMT+01:00 Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>:

> On 12 Feb 2015, at 15:10, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
>
> > To get the chips out, I would recommend using a chip puller.
>
> Like this?
>
>
> http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Hot-PLCC-IC-Chip-Extractor-Motherboard-Circuit-Board-Component-Puller-Tool/612195_2030572836.html
>
> 1.36USD inc. shipping, AliExpress is crazy...
>
> --
>
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Feb 12 15:53:03 2015
From: randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk (random variate)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:53:03 +0000
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS3716F8056FA57060A37DC6FF5220@phx.gbl>

No - thats a chip extractor for square plcc chip sockets.

You want one like this:

Tools - IC http://www.futurlec.com/Pictures/IC_Puller.jpg
________________________________
From: Joost Schuttelaar<mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>
Sent: ?12/?02/?2015 14:35
To: Music-bar<mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: Re: EX5 ROM upgrade

On 12 Feb 2015, at 15:10, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:

> To get the chips out, I would recommend using a chip puller.

Like this?

http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/Hot-PLCC-IC-Chip-Extractor-Motherboard-Circuit-Board-Component-Puller-Tool/612195_2030572836.html

1.36USD inc. shipping, AliExpress is crazy...

--

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 17:27:16 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:27:16 +0100
Subject: EX5 ROM upgrade
In-Reply-To: <CAML7JVG-1QoWpsheKD-ssujOs+Af+Dscseqx2N531C5jOZipVg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54DA68EA.4050002@severity-one.com>
 <D411E599-E071-4218-8143-F65667376584@gmail.com>
 <CAML7JVG-1QoWpsheKD-ssujOs+Af+Dscseqx2N531C5jOZipVg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <601378BA-5B0A-4578-9932-6BDF20825C66@gmail.com>

Thank you Peter for all the description :)
I will let you know if I have a problem ( hopefully not ) 
:)

Romain 




On 12 Feb 2015, at 15:10, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:

> Hi Romain,
> 
> You could decide to get the EX5 out and put it upside down. That's probably the safest way. If, like I, you have it on a stand, you may also decide to put it up on the connector side. If you do that, you're basically working upside down - not that this makes any difference.
> 
> After you remove the large metal plate from the bottom (about the size of a 10 inch tablet, you can't miss it), you're looking at the green circuit board where you can also replace the battery, install the SCSI card, etc. The side where the input/output connectors on the back of the synth are is the "up" side when looking at the circuit board. If you put the synth on connector side like I did, the "up" side is at the bottom. For the following description, I'm assuming that "up" is up.
> 
> The four ROM chips are in the top left corner, partially obscured by a flat cable. From top to bottom these are IC2, IC3, IC8 and IC9. What you need to do is pull the chips out and replace them with the ones that Tim sent you. They're clearly labelled, so you know which one goes where.
> 
> To get the chips out, I would recommend using a chip puller. There really isn't enough space to do it with a screwdriver, although I loosened them a bit from one side using a small screwdriver. A chip puller is a really simple tool that you can buy at any electronics shop. Try not to touch the pins of the chips, and preferably do this on a tile floor, not wearing shoes. Keep the EX5 plugged into the wall socket, but switched off. This way, you minimise the chance of damaging anything with static electricity. Make sure you pull the chip and not the socket, or you'll ruin your EX5.
> 
> To push the chips in, first make sure they're properly aligned. There's a little notch in one of the narrow sides, that has to line up with the notch on the chip socket. It should be on the right. Then, carefully place the chip over the socket, and make ABSOLUTELY 100% CERTAIN that the pins are properly lined up with the holes. You don't want bent pins. It can be fixed, but it's best to be avoided, because pins can easily break off.
> 
> Then, push the chip into the socket. It'll require a bit of force, and you won't feel a click or anything. When the circuit board starts bending under the pressure, the chip is inserted deeply enough. Push it both on the left and the right side.
> 
> When all four chips are done, switch on the EX5 and see if it works. It may take a little longer to start up the first time. If it works, you can screw the metal plate back in its place.
> 
> That's it really. I didn't have any manual, but simply decided to go ahead, and everything worked out.
> 
> Good luck!
> 
> - Peter
> 
> 2015-02-12 12:18 GMT+01:00 Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com>:
> Yes, Thank you Tim !!
> And Peter for the advises. By any chance, Peter, did you take pictures  while installing ?
> 
> I didn t upgrade yet  cause the chips are still at Joost place :)
> I m quite curious and very enthusiast  tho ? :)
> 
> 
> 
> Romain
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 10 Feb 2015, at 21:24, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
> 
> > Some of you may know that I own an EX5 ;-) and that I try to load it with all possible extras. So it's got four additional outputs, SCSI, 64 MB RAM, and 16 MB Flash memory. The one thing really missing was getting the latest OS.
> >
> > You may remember Tim's (random variate) offer on this list to get you the latest OS. So I took him up on that, and for a very reasonable fee (basically cost price) he delivered the four chips. Replacing them is fairly easy, although I would recommend buying a chip puller. You could perhaps get away with using a small screwdriver, but there isn't really enough space if you only remove the large metal plate in the bottom. (The one you remove if you want to install SCSI or replace the battery.)
> >
> > Even though I managed to bend two pins between chip and socket - Tim quickly helped identify this problem, which I managed to overlook when doing the visual check - the chips were inserted properly in the end.
> >
> > Boot up, and everything worked! Large samples now load in a manner of seconds. ;-) OK, the latter is not true, and cannot be solved because of the design of the EX5, but at least this takes care of the bugs (and there have been quite a few) in the earlier versions of the EX5 OS.
> >
> > Given the price of the upgrade, and given the value your EX5/EX5R/EX7 has for you, I think it's well worth it.
> >
> > No, I'm not getting paid for this endorsement. :-)
> >
> > Thanks again to Tim,
> >
> > - Peter
> > _______________________________________________
> > music-bar mailing list
> > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar

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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 17:27:56 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 17:27:56 +0100
Subject: RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net>
References: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net>
Message-ID: <285F9700-944C-4480-AD7D-DBC1439F8625@gmail.com>

Very well done as always :) 

Romain 




On 12 Feb 2015, at 10:10, Declan Gorman <declan at degomusic.net> wrote:

> Hey guys,
>   I have a track that I started and finished in February so rather than just let it fester on SoundCloud I have decided to submit it as part of the music-bar RPM 2015 project.  It is a Drum & Bass track called SubStorm and my vocal is among the many ad-libs that I have used throughout the track. I hope it meets the criteria but if not please let me know and I will make some changes.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Declan.
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar

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From nigel at 4trak.net  Thu Feb 12 18:55:05 2015
From: nigel at 4trak.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 09:55:05 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <31284466-6DE5-496E-B11D-E2FA5F643D5E@gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAA7dtZLX_W0sXKKJwDJ=C6ipa_KV_-097h+jmf1j1B_LW=tTkQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <9B8A9FDD-123A-4BE7-A5B1-540513CD1528@gmail.com>
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 <31284466-6DE5-496E-B11D-E2FA5F643D5E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAA7dtZ+WfDfZCeOfG5hxnzDv74mGK4YZ8BeVpNwkuVqBCAbGUQ@mail.gmail.com>

I just realized I suggested the voice constraint and don't own a microphone
anymore :)

Maybe I'll just yell into some headphones....
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb 12 19:14:06 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 19:14:06 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZ+WfDfZCeOfG5hxnzDv74mGK4YZ8BeVpNwkuVqBCAbGUQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
 <01e201d03e09$fafb5ef0$f0f21cd0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <CA+Y59G6eDJF4gLfG2bYTBzQrRxYS7_cvGzVOZdO+N+WAmowg+Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <B963F41F-4FAD-42F9-9439-C38489A63294@gmail.com>

> Maybe I'll just yell into some headphones?.


That would be awesome.

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ibisum at gmail.com


From forums at deadmengods.com  Thu Feb 12 23:41:08 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 23:41:08 +0100
Subject: RIP Steve Strange
Message-ID: <7A379FC9-1D57-4DA0-BFEC-6ADDA68E003F@deadmengods.com>

Sad...
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31449838

Skickat fr?n min iPad

From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 09:21:18 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:21:18 +0100
Subject: RIP Steve Strange
In-Reply-To: <7A379FC9-1D57-4DA0-BFEC-6ADDA68E003F@deadmengods.com>
References: <7A379FC9-1D57-4DA0-BFEC-6ADDA68E003F@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <D16C2774-60B3-494C-80F4-2B67FA589652@gmail.com>

> http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31449838
> 


And now the fade is final, its all black.


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From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 09:51:49 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 09:51:49 +0100
Subject: Fat 8910 sounds
Message-ID: <0E288997-8FFB-4F18-B2E9-C93302E2A21D@gmail.com>

I really like the fat sounds in this pick from Puremagnetik:

http://puremagnetik.com/post/110184916790/ableton-live-pack-kontakt-instrument-intellivision

(I?m not a customer, though..)

Its inspired me to crack open the AY-8910 chip specs and dig deeper .. for example I didn?t know it could do Portamento all these years! :)


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From peter at severity-one.com  Fri Feb 13 11:07:08 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 11:07:08 +0100
Subject: RIP Steve Strange
In-Reply-To: <7A379FC9-1D57-4DA0-BFEC-6ADDA68E003F@deadmengods.com>
References: <7A379FC9-1D57-4DA0-BFEC-6ADDA68E003F@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <CAML7JVGUcTggrPBE1nSzj7MRf6Vn+A27eLd5h-jbyr8z8nPHBQ@mail.gmail.com>

2015-02-12 23:41 GMT+01:00 Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com>:

> Sad...
> http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-31449838
>

Sad indeed. But from the article:

"Strange - who admitted he faced drug addiction problems in the years that
followed his early success - [...]"

...probably explains why he died at such a young age. Probably destroyed
his immune system (he got a lot of infections) and heart (he died of heart
failure).

- Peter
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Fri Feb 13 16:43:16 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:43:16 +0100
Subject: GAS
Message-ID: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>

I must confess that I suffer from serious GAS these days. There's so many new synths I want to buy :-)

Moog Sub 37, fantastic interface, great sound and lots of cool synthesis features. They have really stepped up since Amos joined them.

Korg MS-20M, i really like the grittyness you can achieve with a MS-20 but have previously found it a bit limited sonically (maybe just because I haven't spent enough time with it) and I haven't really liked the physical format either. The recent demos of the new features (pwm, sync, fm) really sound nice and the desktop look is really nice.

Arp Odyssey, wow, I've always liked the sound of it. Wish they hadn't been so conservative though, why not put in some modern stuff as well, like velocity for amp and filter. I'm on a preorder list for a Mk3.

Sequential Prophet-6, a poly analog is just what I lack in my arsenal (not really counting the poly abilities of my Elektron A4). By the demos it sounds great but I don't get the "no-screen"-policy. If you have 500 preset locations, wouldn't it be a nice feature to be able to name them to other things than 271 or 103? They already got code to handle a screen from the other models...

What's your take on this and all the other stuff that was presented this NAMM?

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

From ronwest at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 16:57:57 2015
From: ronwest at gmail.com (Ron West)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 10:57:57 -0500
Subject: GAS
In-Reply-To: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
References: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <CAOEgy-+WroFxKRxPBVjZFXXdnV66aEhZjJxo745b7LQk6FidKw@mail.gmail.com>

The Vermona 14 is the one that I'm most interested in.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/02/07/vermona-14-analog-synthesizer-at-namm-2015/

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com>
wrote:

> I must confess that I suffer from serious GAS these days. There's so many
> new synths I want to buy :-)
>
> Moog Sub 37, fantastic interface, great sound and lots of cool synthesis
> features. They have really stepped up since Amos joined them.
>
> Korg MS-20M, i really like the grittyness you can achieve with a MS-20 but
> have previously found it a bit limited sonically (maybe just because I
> haven't spent enough time with it) and I haven't really liked the physical
> format either. The recent demos of the new features (pwm, sync, fm) really
> sound nice and the desktop look is really nice.
>
> Arp Odyssey, wow, I've always liked the sound of it. Wish they hadn't been
> so conservative though, why not put in some modern stuff as well, like
> velocity for amp and filter. I'm on a preorder list for a Mk3.
>
> Sequential Prophet-6, a poly analog is just what I lack in my arsenal (not
> really counting the poly abilities of my Elektron A4). By the demos it
> sounds great but I don't get the "no-screen"-policy. If you have 500 preset
> locations, wouldn't it be a nice feature to be able to name them to other
> things than 271 or 103? They already got code to handle a screen from the
> other models...
>
> What's your take on this and all the other stuff that was presented this
> NAMM?
>
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 17:35:00 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 17:35:00 +0100
Subject: GAS
In-Reply-To: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
References: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <1A0F44FD-838D-4866-9C37-EDB30FC7BE3F@gmail.com>


> 
> I must confess that I suffer from serious GAS these days. There's so many new synths I want to buy :-)
> 


Considering that there are, like, 500+ !@&$@ new synth companies this year, that is *hardly* a surprise.  :)



> Moog Sub 37, fantastic interface, great sound and lots of cool synthesis features. They have really stepped up since Amos joined them.
> 

At first: meh.  But then: oooh.


> Korg MS-20M, i really like the grittyness you can achieve with a MS-20 but have previously found it a bit limited sonically (maybe just because I haven't spent enough time with it) and I haven't really liked the physical format either. The recent demos of the new features (pwm, sync, fm) really sound nice and the desktop look is really nice.

Yeah, I love my MS20 and find it very sexy most of the time .. but the idea of a new-generation of MS20 style synthesis is very appealing.

> Arp Odyssey, wow, I've always liked the sound of it. Wish they hadn't been so conservative though, why not put in some modern stuff as well, like velocity for amp and filter. I'm on a preorder list for a Mk3.

Yeah this is just too good to be true, imho.  What once was ?dead? is now alive and flourishing.  WTF?

> 
> 
> What's your take on this and all the other stuff that was presented this NAMM?
> 

Well, I?ve been quite jaded about synths - and synth companies - lately, but my latest GAS is for the Eurorack revolution.  I think if I had to start all over again I?d just sell all the DSP shit and go pure analog, 100% modular, and build an immense room-filling device of doom.  There is just too much good stuff going on in this arena.




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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb 13 17:53:25 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:53:25 -0000
Subject: GAS
In-Reply-To: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
References: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <03d501d047ad$97e18d00$c7a4a700$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Im with you on all of those apart from the Pro6.  I know the DSI Pro2
changed the DSI game but, Im still "scared" by how underwhelmed all DSI
products have made me..  I think the Pro2 could be the one that changes this
but Im not going to throw any money at it to find out..

Btw, I sold my MS20 with the view to getting the MS20m as I also did not
really like the MS20 form factor.  Unfortunately, at the time of selling I
got a monstrous tax bill so Ive put off buying for a while..

And yep, there is no way Im not going to be a Arp Odyssey (once tax man
issues are resolved..).

Good times..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikael Hansson [mailto:forums at deadmengods.com]
> Sent: 13 February 2015 15:43
> To: Music-Bar
> Subject: GAS
> 
> I must confess that I suffer from serious GAS these days. There's so many
> new synths I want to buy :-)
> 
> Moog Sub 37, fantastic interface, great sound and lots of cool synthesis
> features. They have really stepped up since Amos joined them.
> 
> Korg MS-20M, i really like the grittyness you can achieve with a MS-20 but
> have previously found it a bit limited sonically (maybe just because I
haven't
> spent enough time with it) and I haven't really liked the physical format
> either. The recent demos of the new features (pwm, sync, fm) really sound
> nice and the desktop look is really nice.
> 
> Arp Odyssey, wow, I've always liked the sound of it. Wish they hadn't been
> so conservative though, why not put in some modern stuff as well, like
> velocity for amp and filter. I'm on a preorder list for a Mk3.
> 
> Sequential Prophet-6, a poly analog is just what I lack in my arsenal (not
really
> counting the poly abilities of my Elektron A4). By the demos it sounds
great
> but I don't get the "no-screen"-policy. If you have 500 preset locations,
> wouldn't it be a nice feature to be able to name them to other things than
> 271 or 103? They already got code to handle a screen from the other
> models...
> 
> What's your take on this and all the other stuff that was presented this
> NAMM?
> 
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 19:02:14 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:02:14 +0100
Subject: A different kind of ARP.
Message-ID: <DA439D61-1592-4E1B-8AB4-70B63D3CAA66@gmail.com>

Well, shee-it.  This is probably the nicest Arp-releated Description on Ebay I?ve read, recently ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ARP-Tonus-VCO-VCF-Noise-S-H-waveshaper-Encapsulated-Submodules-Vintage-/231478726501?

Alt-universe-Me#1023561834.23136 is thoroughly enjoying putting this stuff in a new case with knobs, right about now ..

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From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 19:03:03 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 19:03:03 +0100
Subject: GAS
In-Reply-To: <03d501d047ad$97e18d00$c7a4a700$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
 <03d501d047ad$97e18d00$c7a4a700$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <FE535FD7-5634-47F1-B7DC-12B55856D5D3@gmail.com>

> 
> Btw, I sold my MS20 with the view to getting the MS20m as I also did not
> really like the MS20 form factor.  Unfortunately, at the time of selling I
> got a monstrous tax bill so Ive put off buying for a while..
> 


Yeah, I?ve come to seriously appreciate the big fat MS20 case, its just furniture for us at this point.


> And yep, there is no way Im not going to be a Arp Odyssey (once tax man
> issues are resolved..).
> 

Because you do that, I will just enjoy the results..

> Good times..

Indeed!  I think February is one of my favorite months, matter of fact ..

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb 13 19:04:02 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 18:04:02 -0000
Subject: GAS
In-Reply-To: <CAOEgy-+WroFxKRxPBVjZFXXdnV66aEhZjJxo745b7LQk6FidKw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
 <CAOEgy-+WroFxKRxPBVjZFXXdnV66aEhZjJxo745b7LQk6FidKw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <046101d047b7$75429730$5fc7c590$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Hey Ron

 

The Vermona did not grab me as it comes across as being a bit too ?standard?.  There are so many new-school mono analogues out there, you need a few unique points or to be inundated with every feature known to man (like the Pro2 and the Sub37).  Is there anything special about the Vermona that I missed?  Maybe its just the sound that?s it main selling point?

 

Ta,

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Ron West [mailto:ronwest at gmail.com] 
Sent: 13 February 2015 15:58
To: Music-bar
Subject: Re: GAS

 

The Vermona 14 is the one that I'm most interested in.
http://www.synthtopia.com/content/2015/02/07/vermona-14-analog-synthesizer-at-namm-2015/

 

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com <mailto:forums at deadmengods.com> > wrote:

I must confess that I suffer from serious GAS these days. There's so many new synths I want to buy :-)

Moog Sub 37, fantastic interface, great sound and lots of cool synthesis features. They have really stepped up since Amos joined them.

Korg MS-20M, i really like the grittyness you can achieve with a MS-20 but have previously found it a bit limited sonically (maybe just because I haven't spent enough time with it) and I haven't really liked the physical format either. The recent demos of the new features (pwm, sync, fm) really sound nice and the desktop look is really nice.

Arp Odyssey, wow, I've always liked the sound of it. Wish they hadn't been so conservative though, why not put in some modern stuff as well, like velocity for amp and filter. I'm on a preorder list for a Mk3.

Sequential Prophet-6, a poly analog is just what I lack in my arsenal (not really counting the poly abilities of my Elektron A4). By the demos it sounds great but I don't get the "no-screen"-policy. If you have 500 preset locations, wouldn't it be a nice feature to be able to name them to other things than 271 or 103? They already got code to handle a screen from the other models...

What's your take on this and all the other stuff that was presented this NAMM?

Sent from Mikaels cellular device
_______________________________________________
music-bar mailing list
music-bar at lists.music-bar.org <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org> 
http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar

 

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From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 20:07:20 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 20:07:20 +0100
Subject: GAS
In-Reply-To: <046101d047b7$75429730$5fc7c590$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <AE9B1F59-B321-4C64-8ED8-21DEC13D27DC@deadmengods.com>
 <CAOEgy-+WroFxKRxPBVjZFXXdnV66aEhZjJxo745b7LQk6FidKw@mail.gmail.com>
 <046101d047b7$75429730$5fc7c590$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <3CB20870-E81D-427A-B489-6E25A5E4C865@gmail.com>


So .. I?m just trying to get some actual Friday-night stuff done, but I?m getting distracted by music-bar while also listening to our (RES) last-week RPM session recordings ..

> The Vermona did not grab me as it comes across as being a bit too ?standard?.  There are so many new-school mono analogues out there, you need a few unique points or to be inundated with every feature known to man (like the Pro2 and the Sub37).

.. something to think about, along the lines of ?standards? and so on, is that there isn?t really a good reason to *buy* a mono-synth.  Its much, much more musically profitable to *build* a monoSynth, or construct a mono synth architecture from parts and modules.  Because the uniqueness of this statement:

>  Is there anything special about the Vermona that I missed?  Maybe its just the sound that?s it main selling point?


.. implies that, eventually, if its ?the special sound? one wants, then its got to be built by the individual, for the individual.  Otherwise what you?re really buying - and I mean this from the factory-synth perspective - is quite literally ?a standard sound?.

You can spend 300..1000-blah on a keyboard all-in-one-monosynth, or you can build one - a really unique one - for basically the same basic price range.  That is really a cool aspect of the Modular revival; the component-ization of modules means at the macro layer, the pipeline itself can be ?unique?.  Of course, many a zealot has ventured into the modular world with just such a decision, but I honestly thing there are few mono synths out there which couldn?t be replaced/replicated/out-done by a modular rig: for the same price.

Maybe I should really also just listen to one last Eurorack demo and then get some other Friday-night stuff done ..

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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Fri Feb 13 21:44:17 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:44:17 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
Message-ID: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>

Who?s living in Germany? :) Kai, Marek also? I need to order a new Onkyo amplifier remote control, and Onkyo EU only ships to Germany? could I send the package to someone on the -bar, I?ll IBAN the postage, and they can forward it to me in NL?

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From forums at deadmengods.com  Fri Feb 13 21:53:16 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:53:16 +0100
Subject: Know your 80s
Message-ID: <4376D4C0-32C0-4876-8ADD-B05EA825EADC@deadmengods.com>

In an evening of 80s music I put together a collection of anonymized 80s synth tracks, not the standard hits of course.

http://www.deadmengods.com/misc/music.zip <http://www.deadmengods.com/misc/music.zip>

There?s 11 tracks. See how many artists/bands/tracks you can identify to claim the title ?Master of the 80s? ?or just enjoy them? :-) 

Number 11 is quite hard to separate the peasants from the ninjas :-)

/Micke

ps. don?t be tempted to use shazam or a similar service ;-)
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From ronwest at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 22:07:17 2015
From: ronwest at gmail.com (Ron West)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 16:07:17 -0500
Subject: Know your 80s
In-Reply-To: <4376D4C0-32C0-4876-8ADD-B05EA825EADC@deadmengods.com>
References: <4376D4C0-32C0-4876-8ADD-B05EA825EADC@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <CAOEgy-JDHpzNRk0_RLNX4i37ON0BPmN5=ogPxnCEPZ=1kjZZZA@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent selection.
BTW, your album art is intact. :-)

On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com>
wrote:

> In an evening of 80s music I put together a collection of anonymized 80s
> synth tracks, not the standard hits of course.
>
> http://www.deadmengods.com/misc/music.zip
>
> There?s 11 tracks. See how many artists/bands/tracks you can identify to
> claim the title ?Master of the 80s? ?or just enjoy them? :-)
>
> Number 11 is quite hard to separate the peasants from the ninjas :-)
>
> /Micke
>
> ps. don?t be tempted to use shazam or a similar service ;-)
>
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Fri Feb 13 22:14:06 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 22:14:06 +0100
Subject: Know your 80s
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> On 13 feb 2015, at 22:07, Ron West <ronwest at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Excellent selection. 
> BTW, your album art is intact. :-)

Damnit, I?ve uplodaing a further sanitized version as I type so if anyone got the first one, close your eyes :-)

/Micke

From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Fri Feb 13 23:42:26 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 00:42:26 +0200
Subject: Know your 80s
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Hi!

Nice one :-)

Damn?apparently I suck at my eighties. I definitely recognised three artists and maybe three more tops, but could not name one single song. I know I have one of those songs, and have listened to it several times every now and then, but I just can?t remember its name :-)

I probably got the sanitised version.

Cheers,

	Kim

> On 13 Feb 2015, at 23:14, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 13 feb 2015, at 22:07, Ron West <ronwest at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Excellent selection. 
>> BTW, your album art is intact. :-)
> 
> Damnit, I?ve uplodaing a further sanitized version as I type so if anyone got the first one, close your eyes :-)
> 
> /Micke
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Sat Feb 14 01:08:32 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:08:32 +0100
Subject: Know your 80s
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> On 13 feb 2015, at 23:42, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Nice one :-)
> 
> Damn?apparently I suck at my eighties. I definitely recognised three artists and maybe three more tops, but could not name one single song. I know I have one of those songs, and have listened to it several times every now and then, but I just can?t remember its name :-)
> 
> I probably got the sanitised version.

Don?t be too hard on your self, I?d say it?s a quite difficult list of songs :-)

I?ll post the answers tomorrow around lunch...

/Micke

From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Sat Feb 14 01:18:55 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:18:55 +0100
Subject: Know your 80s
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Mikael Hansson schreef op 13-2-2015 om 21:53:
> In an evening of 80s music I put together a collection of
> anonymized 80s synth tracks, not the standard hits of course.
>
> http://www.deadmengods.com/misc/music.zip
>
> There?s 11 tracks. See how many artists/bands/tracks you can
> identify to claim the title ?Master of the 80s? ?or just enjoy
> them? :-)
>
> Number 11 is quite hard to separate the peasants from the ninjas :-)
>
> /Micke
>
> ps. don?t be tempted to use shazam or a similar service ;-)

I thought I was an eighties kid. Apparently not :-)

-- 
Gert

gert van santen
www.gertvansanten.nl

From forums at deadmengods.com  Sat Feb 14 01:28:13 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 01:28:13 +0100
Subject: Know your 80s
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> On 14 feb 2015, at 01:18, Gert van Santen <g.vansanten at upcmail.nl> wrote:
> 
> Mikael Hansson schreef op 13-2-2015 om 21:53:
>> In an evening of 80s music I put together a collection of
>> anonymized 80s synth tracks, not the standard hits of course.
>> 
>> http://www.deadmengods.com/misc/music.zip
>> 
>> There?s 11 tracks. See how many artists/bands/tracks you can
>> identify to claim the title ?Master of the 80s? ?or just enjoy
>> them? :-)
>> 
>> Number 11 is quite hard to separate the peasants from the ninjas :-)
>> 
>> /Micke
>> 
>> ps. don?t be tempted to use shazam or a similar service ;-)
> 
> I thought I was an eighties kid. Apparently not :-)

You might have been busy in other dimensions at the time :-)

/Micke


From forums at deadmengods.com  Sat Feb 14 10:11:48 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:11:48 +0100
Subject: GAS
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> On 13 feb 2015, at 20:07, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> So .. I?m just trying to get some actual Friday-night stuff done, but I?m getting distracted by music-bar while also listening to our (RES) last-week RPM session recordings ..

Looking forward to hear the results! I might be able to get something ready, we?ll see at the end of the month.

/Micke

From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sat Feb 14 11:18:34 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 10:18:34 -0000
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Yeah, Jay..  Lets get a listen!!  :)

Our track is done but, I want to make a small change and got relo's staying this weekend  :(

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikael Hansson [mailto:forums at deadmengods.com]
> Sent: 14 February 2015 09:12
> To: Music-Bar
> Subject: Re: GAS
> 
> 
> > On 13 feb 2015, at 20:07, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So .. I?m just trying to get some actual Friday-night stuff done, but I?m
> getting distracted by music-bar while also listening to our (RES) last-week
> RPM session recordings ..
> 
> Looking forward to hear the results! I might be able to get something ready,
> we?ll see at the end of the month.
> 
> /Micke
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Sat Feb 14 12:37:32 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 12:37:32 +0100
Subject: Know your 80s SPOLIER ALERT
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> Don?t be too hard on your self, I?d say it?s a quite difficult list of songs :-)
> 
> I?ll post the answers tomorrow around lunch?

Here?s the list:

01 Blancmange - Feel me - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blancmange_(band) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blancmange_(band)>
Most known for ?Living on the ceiling? and ?Blind Vision?. Their debut album Happy Families is a 80s treasure.

02 Talk Talk - It?s so serious - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_Talk>
From their debut album, before they got caught up in seriousness and still were writing songs. Love the sound of this album.

03 Boytronic - Luna Square - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boytronic <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boytronic>
The best synthpop act from Germany during the 80s (the K?s are not pop :-). Two great albums before they split up (not counting the record company shameless restart with other members).

04 Indochine - Leila - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indochine_(band) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indochine_(band)>
Many of you might have missed their first album, L?Aventurier, which were the only good one.

05 Rupert Hine - The Golden Age - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Hine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Hine>
Mostly heard as a producer for other bands. I guess you can hear that this was done at the same period as Howard Jones debut album :-)

06 Thompson Twins - Kamikaze - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Twins <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Twins>
Also a band that peaked early. This is from their album ?Quick step & side kicks?. Love the sound of that album.

07 Fad Gadget - Ladyshave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fad_Gadget <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fad_Gadget>
Probably one of the easier? Daniel Miller helped produce this which you quite clearly can hear. Get Dave Gahan on vocals and this would fit right in on Speak & Spell.

08 Naked Eyes - Emotion in motion - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Eyes <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naked_Eyes>
Might have been the first synthpop band to extensively use the Fairlight CMI.

09 China Crisis - You never see it - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Crisis <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Crisis>
More commonly known for their smash hit ?Wishful Thinking? around 1983-1984. This was from their first album which was more experimental and less mass appeal.

10 Data - Opera Electronica - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DATA_(band) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DATA_(band)>
One of the most under-appreciated bands of the 80s. I regard their album ?2-Time? as one of the best albums of the 80s. Still sounds modern to me :-)

11 Twice A Man - Decay - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_a_Man <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_a_Man>
Swedens top synth act of the 80s. Had some followers among the hardcore synth-fans, mainly in Germany and NL. In the early 80s they were offered to play in London as an exchange band for New Order playing in Sweden (apparently it needed to be some kind of trade balance regarding concerts at the time). At the time they were known as Cosmic Overdose. The arrangers told them they had to change name as everyone would think they were hippies and no one would show up. They got some suggestions and in a rush just picked Twice A Man as a name.

Did you get some of them?

/Micke
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Sat Feb 14 13:30:04 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 13:30:04 +0100
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> On Feb 14, 2015, at 12:37, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you get some of them?
> 


I got 01, 06, 09, and had some sort of feeling about 07, but the rest were completely a surprise.

And that was really fun, do it again!

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From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Sat Feb 14 14:33:49 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 2015 15:33:49 +0200
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> Did you get some of them?

Let?s see now:

> 01 Blancmange - Feel me - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blancmange_(band) <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blancmange_(band)>
Was 99% sure of the band. 

> 02 Talk Talk - It?s so serious - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_Talk <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk_Talk>
Got the band right.

> 05 Rupert Hine - The Golden Age - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Hine <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Hine>
Got the artist right. Have a couple of his records.

> 06 Thompson Twins - Kamikaze - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Twins <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Twins>
Suspected it was TT. Not 100% sure, though.

> 07 Fad Gadget - Ladyshave - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fad_Gadget <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fad_Gadget>
Of course, Ladyshave!

> 11 Twice A Man - Decay - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_a_Man <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twice_a_Man>
This had a Visage-y vibe, but I couldn?t recognise the song so I concluded it wasn?t. The rest I have heard of, but never listened to.

This was fun :-)

Cheers,

	Kim

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From peter at severity-one.com  Sun Feb 15 13:33:35 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 13:33:35 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
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Joost Schuttelaar schreef op 13-2-2015 om 21:44:
> Who?s living in Germany? :) Kai, Marek also? I need to order a new Onkyo amplifier remote control, and Onkyo EU only ships to Germany? could I send the package to someone on the -bar, I?ll IBAN the postage, and they can forward it to me in NL?

http://www.huifkar.de/

Among many others... although I would see this as an excuse for a trip 
to Germany. :)

- Peter

From declan at degomusic.net  Sun Feb 15 16:42:33 2015
From: declan at degomusic.net (Declan Gorman)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 15:42:33 +0000
Subject: New music on SoundCloud
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Hey guys,
   I have put my spin on the Eagles song Hotel California 
<https://soundcloud.com/dego/hotel-california-dego-edit>.  Check it out 
and let me know your thoughts.

Regards,

Declan.
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From nigel at 4trak.net  Sun Feb 15 18:24:22 2015
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 09:24:22 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
bucks!)  and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.

Words are hard.

On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 10:14 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> > Maybe I'll just yell into some headphones?.
>
>
> That would be awesome.
>
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com
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Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 18:48:46 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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> 
> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25 bucks!)  and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.


Nobody said you can?t use a vocoder, or else I?m screwed because our track is using the microphone of the Sirius in combination with the onboard vocoder, and it rocks but not in a vocal way, but more in a RES-exploration way .. anyway, still gotta do some tweaking because there are mono synths and they?re not panned properly in the recording ..

;
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Sun Feb 15 19:23:03 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 9:48 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
> bucks!)  and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
>
>
> Nobody said you can?t use a vocoder, or else I?m screwed because our track
> is using the microphone of the Sirius in combination with the onboard
> vocoder, and it rocks but not in a vocal way, but more in a RES-exploration
> way .. anyway, still gotta do some tweaking because there are mono synths
> and they?re not panned properly in the recording ..
>
>
Yeah. After a fair bit of mucking around I ended up vocoding (the built in
one in Ableton is actually pretty nice...) but it felt like a cop-out.

Words force you to bare yourself in a way that melody and timbre don't, or
at least that's how I end up feeling.
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sun Feb 15 20:23:08 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:23:08 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:

> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25 bucks!)  and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.

Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)

WIP!

http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sun Feb 15 20:28:33 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:28:33 +0100
Subject: RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net>
References: <54DC6DEB.6080208@degomusic.net>
Message-ID: <73CEE520-EEDC-4218-BD06-E7609B2BA35C@joostschuttelaar.nl>

On 12 Feb 2015, at 10:10, Declan Gorman <declan at degomusic.net> wrote:

>  SubStorm <https://soundcloud.com/dego/substorm>


Wow, this one has a pretty fat sound. My desk is shaking.

Liking it!

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From forums at deadmengods.com  Sun Feb 15 20:55:54 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 20:55:54 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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> On 15 feb 2015, at 20:23, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:
> 
> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> 
>> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25 bucks!)  and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
> 
> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)

I guess I don?t need to ?+1" on this one, but I?m gonna give it a try :-)

> WIP!
> 
> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)

Nice and groovy!

Here?s my idea so far?
http://deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_rpm15.mp3 <http://deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_rpm15.mp3>

/micke
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Sun Feb 15 21:01:28 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:01:28 +0100
Subject: RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <73CEE520-EEDC-4218-BD06-E7609B2BA35C@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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> On 15 feb 2015, at 20:28, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:
> 
> On 12 Feb 2015, at 10:10, Declan Gorman <declan at degomusic.net> wrote:
> 
>> SubStorm <https://soundcloud.com/dego/substorm>
> 
> 
> Wow, this one has a pretty fat sound. My desk is shaking.
> 
> Liking it!

Agree, been really nice following your progress from the beginning, you have really evolved during the years, great tracks and great production!

/Micke

From ibisum at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 21:03:42 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:03:42 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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> Yeah. After a fair bit of mucking around I ended up vocoding (the built in one in Ableton is actually pretty nice...) but it felt like a cop-out.


Try as I might, I can?t get that ?Jeune Fille Garmnement? style sound that I?ve been infected by lately .. But damn it if I don?t keep trying.

;
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Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From ibisum at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 21:09:45 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 21:09:45 +0100
Subject: RPM 2015
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>> SubStorm <https://soundcloud.com/dego/substorm>
> Wow, this one has a pretty fat sound. My desk is shaking.

Really booming?n track!


;
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Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Sun Feb 15 21:23:01 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 12:23:01 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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 Nigel Kersten wrote:

>
> Words force you to bare yourself in a way that melody and timbre don't, or
> at least that's how I end up feeling.
>
>
The constraint was to use your voice in one way or another, not to
necessarily bare yourself out with any actual lyrics and vocals :-) I would
suck at that if I had to have a go at it, and luckily don't feel the urge
as I do in creating timbers :-)

Mohsen
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sun Feb 15 22:51:27 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 22:51:27 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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On 15 Feb 2015, at 20:55, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> http://deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_rpm15.mp3

Sounding good? the challenge fits the track perfectly ;)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Mon Feb 16 02:41:39 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 2015 17:41:39 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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On Sun, Feb 15, 2015 at 12:23 PM, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Nigel Kersten wrote:
>
>>
>> Words force you to bare yourself in a way that melody and timbre don't,
>> or at least that's how I end up feeling.
>>
>>
> The constraint was to use your voice in one way or another, not to
> necessarily bare yourself out with any actual lyrics and vocals :-) I would
> suck at that if I had to have a go at it, and luckily don't feel the urge
> as I do in creating timbers :-)
>
>
Oh believe me, that's where I'm going now :)

I was genuinely trying to stretch myself, but enough of that for the week
:)
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 09:33:49 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 09:33:49 +0100
Subject: GAS .. oh god the GAS .. it hurts so bad ..
Message-ID: <8EB7A2CA-5D5C-4689-A2F0-E72A7833F80C@gmail.com>


http://twisted-electrons.com/ay3/

;
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Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 16 11:09:03 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:09:03 -0000
Subject: GAS .. oh god the GAS .. it hurts so bad ..
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Looks nice, Jay.

I think I still prefer the SID architecture although I know zero about the
8912..

Nice synth..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ibi sum [mailto:ibisum at gmail.com]
> Sent: 16 February 2015 08:34
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: GAS .. oh god the GAS .. it hurts so bad ..
> 
> 
> http://twisted-electrons.com/ay3/
> 
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com



From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 16 11:12:48 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 10:12:48 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Hey Joost - that sounds fab!!  Love the way it comes in after 1 bar of just
drums..

Sounds a little chip-tunes (a GOOD thing).

Loving it..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
> Sent: 15 February 2015 19:23
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> 
> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> 
> > I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
bucks!)
> and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
> 
> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)
> 
> WIP!
> 
> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)
> 
> --
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From ibisum at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 12:27:09 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 12:27:09 +0100
Subject: GAS .. oh god the GAS .. it hurts so bad ..
In-Reply-To: <034901d049d0$9b02c6a0$d10853e0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <8EB7A2CA-5D5C-4689-A2F0-E72A7833F80C@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <36074FFA-9EC2-4864-8D9C-D8354BB12088@gmail.com>

> Looks nice, Jay.
> I think I still prefer the SID architecture although I know zero about the
> 8912..

The thing I like about this than, say, a SID system: this is cheap!  And available!  :)


;
--
Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From canine at waf80.de  Mon Feb 16 13:44:58 2015
From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 22:44:58 +1000
Subject: GAS .. oh god the GAS .. it hurts so bad ..
In-Reply-To: <36074FFA-9EC2-4864-8D9C-D8354BB12088@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <3A343699-DE86-4B1D-B5C1-CC447DAA8159@waf80.de>

Somewhat related: an iPad app that tries to be a soundscape machine:

http://motion-soundscape.blogspot.com.au/?m=1

I don't have iOS 7, so I couldn't try it in mine. But you may find it does something useful...;-)

Enjoy...!

Sent from my phone

On 16.02.2015, at 21:27, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Looks nice, Jay.
>> I think I still prefer the SID architecture although I know zero about the
>> 8912..
> 
> The thing I like about this than, say, a SID system: this is cheap!  And available!  :)
> 
> 
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com
> 
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 14:05:30 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:05:30 +0100
Subject: GAS .. oh god the GAS .. it hurts so bad ..
In-Reply-To: <3A343699-DE86-4B1D-B5C1-CC447DAA8159@waf80.de>
References: <8EB7A2CA-5D5C-4689-A2F0-E72A7833F80C@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <8E232EDF-2B15-490A-8636-67F17B8FC458@gmail.com>

> Somewhat related: an iPad app that tries to be a soundscape machine:
> http://motion-soundscape.blogspot.com.au/?m=1
> I don't have iOS 7, so I couldn't try it in mine. But you may find it does something useful...;-)
> Enjoy?!


I?m officially overwhelmed by the iOS music-making app scene.  There are so many apps .. on my machines already .. that I don?t even use.  So I?ve got an embargo on new apps at the moment.  Sucks, because its too fun to just load up with all the latest crap, but I?ve got to put the things I?ve already purchased to better use/more use before I feel comfortable with continuing the addiction.  Its a very, very vibrant scene though, isn?t it?  Every day new toys.


;
--
Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From marc.nostromo at gmail.com  Mon Feb 16 15:05:03 2015
From: marc.nostromo at gmail.com (Marc Nostromo [M-.-n])
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:05:03 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
In-Reply-To: <54E0921F.6000100@severity-one.com>
References: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>
 <54E0921F.6000100@severity-one.com>
Message-ID: <CAEQ8eXM87FW11cMKTAbvhzcEUVab33tLpgjK_3pVnks2+afuhw@mail.gmail.com>

Hey joost.

Sorry I only skim the bar on a not so regular basis.
I'm in Berlin, feel free to ping me if needed.
/M

2015-02-15 13:33 GMT+01:00 Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>:

> Joost Schuttelaar schreef op 13-2-2015 om 21:44:
>
>> Who?s living in Germany? :) Kai, Marek also? I need to order a new Onkyo
>> amplifier remote control, and Onkyo EU only ships to Germany? could I send
>> the package to someone on the -bar, I?ll IBAN the postage, and they can
>> forward it to me in NL?
>>
>
> http://www.huifkar.de/
>
> Among many others... although I would see this as an excuse for a trip to
> Germany. :)
>
> - Peter
>
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 16 15:25:34 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:25:34 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <3DBFA114-E057-43E3-84F0-EE48D2FF5609@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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 <3DBFA114-E057-43E3-84F0-EE48D2FF5609@joostschuttelaar.nl>
Message-ID: <04a901d049f4$6f381a60$4da84f20$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Unfortunately for me, trade union regulations within punkdisco prohibit me
from ever singing within 100km of any designated punkdisco recording
facility..

Looks our track will have to be Leah..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
> Sent: 15 February 2015 19:23
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> 
> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> 
> > I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
bucks!)
> and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
> 
> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)
> 
> WIP!
> 
> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)
> 
> --
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From forums at deadmengods.com  Mon Feb 16 15:43:47 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 15:43:47 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <04a901d049f4$6f381a60$4da84f20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <EEBC3DFB-514B-478B-AEF8-032CBE363249@deadmengods.com>

Just do a burp sound to kick off the chorus or something similar :-)

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 16 feb 2015 kl. 15:25 skrev foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>:
> 
> Unfortunately for me, trade union regulations within punkdisco prohibit me
> from ever singing within 100km of any designated punkdisco recording
> facility..
> 
> Looks our track will have to be Leah..
> 
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
>> Sent: 15 February 2015 19:23
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
>> 
>>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
> bucks!)
>> and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
>> 
>> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)
>> 
>> WIP!
>> 
>> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Joost Schuttelaar
>> The Hague, NL
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar

From andrew at bml.co.uk  Mon Feb 16 15:51:34 2015
From: andrew at bml.co.uk (Andrew Robinson)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 14:51:34 +0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <EEBC3DFB-514B-478B-AEF8-032CBE363249@deadmengods.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
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 <CAA7dtZLX_W0sXKKJwDJ=C6ipa_KV_-097h+jmf1j1B_LW=tTkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CA+Y59G67zJ=7tj1+V_t7fLp+AWUnMpkrL7HRsn2mDeV08igU_g@mail.gmail.com>

I always thought this was very 'punk disco'...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t33lsAv_bXA

- Andy_R

On 16 February 2015 at 14:43, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> Just do a burp sound to kick off the chorus or something similar :-)
>
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
>
> > 16 feb 2015 kl. 15:25 skrev foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>:
> >
> > Unfortunately for me, trade union regulations within punkdisco prohibit
> me
> > from ever singing within 100km of any designated punkdisco recording
> > facility..
> >
> > Looks our track will have to be Leah..
> >
> > Paul
> > London
> > www.punkdisco.co.uk
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
> >> Sent: 15 February 2015 19:23
> >> To: Music-bar
> >> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> >>
> >>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
> > bucks!)
> >> and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
> >>
> >> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)
> >>
> >> WIP!
> >>
> >> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Joost Schuttelaar
> >> The Hague, NL
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> music-bar mailing list
> >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > music-bar mailing list
> > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> _______________________________________________
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> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 16 20:12:06 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2015 19:12:06 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G67zJ=7tj1+V_t7fLp+AWUnMpkrL7HRsn2mDeV08igU_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAMbtJi7Y5D34tAZKOk0oqGQdYBC6TbpH0NxiMvmxhNsAgES6yw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <05be01d04a1c$7708ceb0$651a6c10$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Hey Andy

 

Ive never heard that track before and its ace!!  Probably one of the best cover versions I have ever heard..

 

Good post..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew at bml.co.uk] 
Sent: 16 February 2015 14:52
To: Music-bar
Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015

 

I always thought this was very 'punk disco'... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t33lsAv_bXA

 

- Andy_R

 

On 16 February 2015 at 14:43, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com <mailto:forums at deadmengods.com> > wrote:

Just do a burp sound to kick off the chorus or something similar :-)

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 16 feb 2015 kl. 15:25 skrev foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk <mailto:forums at punkdisco.co.uk> >:

>
> Unfortunately for me, trade union regulations within punkdisco prohibit me
> from ever singing within 100km of any designated punkdisco recording
> facility..
>
> Looks our track will have to be Leah..
>
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk <http://www.punkdisco.co.uk> 
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl <mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> ]
>> Sent: 15 February 2015 19:23
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
>>
>>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net <mailto:nigel at 4trak.net> > wrote:
>>>
>>> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
> bucks!)
>> and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
>>
>> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)
>>
>> WIP!
>>
>> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)
>>
>> --
>>
>> Joost Schuttelaar
>> The Hague, NL
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org> 
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org> 
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From kai at kainiggemann.com  Tue Feb 17 06:30:19 2015
From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:30:19 +1000
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
In-Reply-To: <CAEQ8eXM87FW11cMKTAbvhzcEUVab33tLpgjK_3pVnks2+afuhw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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Message-ID: <745C3E27-2BAC-486C-930D-030548A6FC96@kainiggemann.com>

I'd be happy to do it -- but I'm in Australia right now, so I won't be of much help right now..;)

Marc, can you do it for Joost? ;-)

Kai



On 17.02.2015, at 00:05, Marc Nostromo [M-.-n] <marc.nostromo at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey joost.
> 
> Sorry I only skim the bar on a not so regular basis.
> I'm in Berlin, feel free to ping me if needed.
> /M
> 
> 2015-02-15 13:33 GMT+01:00 Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>:
> Joost Schuttelaar schreef op 13-2-2015 om 21:44:
> Who?s living in Germany? :) Kai, Marek also? I need to order a new Onkyo amplifier remote control, and Onkyo EU only ships to Germany? could I send the package to someone on the -bar, I?ll IBAN the postage, and they can forward it to me in NL?
> 
> http://www.huifkar.de/
> 
> Among many others... although I would see this as an excuse for a trip to Germany. :)
> 
> - Peter
> 
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From kai at kainiggemann.com  Tue Feb 17 06:31:51 2015
From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 15:31:51 +1000
Subject: GAS .. oh god the GAS .. it hurts so bad ..
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References: <8EB7A2CA-5D5C-4689-A2F0-E72A7833F80C@gmail.com>
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On 16.02.2015, at 23:05, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I?m officially overwhelmed by the iOS music-making app scene.  There are so many apps .. on my machines already .. that I don?t even use.  So I?ve got an embargo on new apps at the moment.  Sucks, because its too fun to just load up with all the latest crap, but I?ve got to put the things I?ve already purchased to better use/more use before I feel comfortable with continuing the addiction.  Its a very, very vibrant scene though, isn?t it?  Every day new toys.


Yes, I totally understand. for me that embargo is somewhat automatic: I am stuck on OS 6, thus many of the newer apps don't even work, saving me a lot of money..;)

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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 11:18:04 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 11:18:04 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
In-Reply-To: <745C3E27-2BAC-486C-930D-030548A6FC96@kainiggemann.com>
References: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>
 <54E0921F.6000100@severity-one.com>
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Message-ID: <4F3029A9-E837-4C85-94E5-604ABA599B90@gmail.com>

Hi Guys , it should be ok , I will take care of it ? 
Thank you 

Romain 




On 17 Feb 2015, at 06:30, K9 Kai Niggemann <kai at kainiggemann.com> wrote:

> I'd be happy to do it -- but I'm in Australia right now, so I won't be of much help right now..;)
> 
> Marc, can you do it for Joost? ;-)
> 
> Kai
> 
> 
> 
> On 17.02.2015, at 00:05, Marc Nostromo [M-.-n] <marc.nostromo at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hey joost.
>> 
>> Sorry I only skim the bar on a not so regular basis.
>> I'm in Berlin, feel free to ping me if needed.
>> /M
>> 
>> 2015-02-15 13:33 GMT+01:00 Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>:
>> Joost Schuttelaar schreef op 13-2-2015 om 21:44:
>> Who?s living in Germany? :) Kai, Marek also? I need to order a new Onkyo amplifier remote control, and Onkyo EU only ships to Germany? could I send the package to someone on the -bar, I?ll IBAN the postage, and they can forward it to me in NL?
>> 
>> http://www.huifkar.de/
>> 
>> Among many others... although I would see this as an excuse for a trip to Germany. :)
>> 
>> - Peter
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
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>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>> 
>> 
>> 
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From mszulen at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 13:00:25 2015
From: mszulen at gmail.com (Marek Szulen)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 13:00:25 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
In-Reply-To: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>
References: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>
Message-ID: <CAPXwgO+1VBY1cC4XMrFB1fPmUiTOttsWShyXCy++QEwXZa+nLA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Joost

I'm sorry for late response.
I'm in NL (between Venlo and Eindhoven).

Marek

2015-02-13 21:44 GMT+01:00 Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>:

> Who?s living in Germany? :) Kai, Marek also? I need to order a new Onkyo
> amplifier remote control, and Onkyo EU only ships to Germany? could I send
> the package to someone on the -bar, I?ll IBAN the postage, and they can
> forward it to me in NL?
>
> --
>
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
>
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From kai at kainiggemann.com  Tue Feb 17 13:08:19 2015
From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 22:08:19 +1000
Subject: Know your 80s
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Hi Micke, 

definitely a peasant here. #7 is ladyshave by Fad Gadget. #2 is a song I have never heard, but definitely by Talk Talk. As for all the others, I am completely oblivious...

;)

Thanks though!

Kai


On 14.02.2015, at 06:53, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> In an evening of 80s music I put together a collection of anonymized 80s synth tracks, not the standard hits of course.
> 
> http://www.deadmengods.com/misc/music.zip
> 
> There?s 11 tracks. See how many artists/bands/tracks you can identify to claim the title ?Master of the 80s? ?or just enjoy them? :-) 
> 
> Number 11 is quite hard to separate the peasants from the ninjas :-)
> 
> /Micke
> 
> ps. don?t be tempted to use shazam or a similar service ;-)
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From nigel at 4trak.net  Tue Feb 17 16:14:54 2015
From: nigel at 4trak.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 07:14:54 -0800
Subject: rpm 2015
Message-ID: <CAA7dtZJnLdEAPiKMnXCLBsQnXyQJq+n1afQy2M+ZFNmJsaC4_A@mail.gmail.com>

https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet

done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....
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From peter at severity-one.com  Tue Feb 17 18:43:03 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:43:03 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
In-Reply-To: <CAPXwgO+1VBY1cC4XMrFB1fPmUiTOttsWShyXCy++QEwXZa+nLA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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Marek Szulen schreef op 17-2-2015 om 13:00:

> I'm in NL (between Venlo and Eindhoven).

That's practically Germany. :)

- Peter

From mszulen at gmail.com  Tue Feb 17 18:52:50 2015
From: mszulen at gmail.com (Marek Szulen)
Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2015 18:52:50 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
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References: <B85D798F-9A12-4544-80BE-8CC82658A76A@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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Haha? true? 

Marek

> Marek Szulen schreef op 17-2-2015 om 13:00:
> 
>> I'm in NL (between Venlo and Eindhoven).
> 
> That's practically Germany. :)
> 
> - Peter
> _______________________________________________
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 11:51:39 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 11:51:39 +0100
Subject: Need a cure for GAS?
Message-ID: <7C5C9EE3-5DE1-4751-9EF6-9ADD84A9D3A7@gmail.com>

.. watch these:

http://sonicbloom.net/en/5-must-watch-music-documentaries/


;
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Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From forums at deadmengods.com  Thu Feb 19 17:39:13 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:39:13 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
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Got some company back from work today :-)

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From randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk  Thu Feb 19 18:00:30 2015
From: randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk (random variate)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:00:30 +0000
Subject: Travel companion
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS2045B3FD9098276AE845352F52D0@phx.gbl>

Tasty!
________________________________
From: Mikael Hansson<mailto:forums at deadmengods.com>
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Got some company back from work today :-)

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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 18:14:15 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:14:15 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <31EDCCBB-A15C-47DB-8D80-6B18651AEEE3@gmail.com>

:-P

Romain 




On 19 Feb 2015, at 17:39, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> Got some company back from work today :-)
> 
> <image2.JPG>
> 
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device_______________________________________________
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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 18:22:36 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:22:36 -0800
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <7718BC3D-C423-4F98-B247-13185375B4CF@gmail.com>

Nice.



> On Feb 19, 2015, at 8:39 AM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> 
> Got some company back from work today :-)
> 
> <image2.JPG>
> 
> 
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 19:07:42 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:07:42 +0100
Subject: Great tutorials on libremusicproduction ..
Message-ID: <3D41FD92-230B-48B8-8557-44D6AE0B2F5B@gmail.com>

I?m really enjoying the tutorials on LibreMusicProduction lately, especially because I?ve been learning more and more about Ardor, a program I feel I should know pretty well already .. for example, this nice tut on sidechaining:

http://libremusicproduction.com/tutorials/sidechaining-ardour-3

In case you?re interested in how things are done in the free-software music production world, check it out.

;
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Jay Vaughan
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb 19 19:08:33 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:08:33 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <7718BC3D-C423-4F98-B247-13185375B4CF@gmail.com>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
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Message-ID: <F4473EAC-A0FB-42D4-BE58-CBA81E0512B9@gmail.com>

>> 
>> Got some company back from work today :-)
>> 


Very nice!  I hope you?ll give us an unboxing and assembly report!   Can?t wait to hear what you do with it ..


;
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From peter at severity-one.com  Thu Feb 19 19:21:10 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 19:21:10 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
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Mikael Hansson schreef op 19-2-2015 om 17:39:

> Got some company back from work today :-)

What kind of music do they play in Swedish trains? :) (Noticing the 
volume controls on the seats.)

- Peter

From forums at deadmengods.com  Thu Feb 19 20:19:09 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:19:09 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <F4473EAC-A0FB-42D4-BE58-CBA81E0512B9@gmail.com>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
 <7718BC3D-C423-4F98-B247-13185375B4CF@gmail.com>
 <F4473EAC-A0FB-42D4-BE58-CBA81E0512B9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9455CFD5-710B-4FD2-AA68-78B2908CCDD9@deadmengods.com>

Certainly, I don?t know how much I will have time to do today though. Benn helping my daughter to prepare for a chemistry test since I got home :-)

Hopefully I?ll have time to finish it on Friday or Saturday

/Micke

> On 19 feb 2015, at 19:08, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Got some company back from work today :-)
>>> 
> 
> 
> Very nice!  I hope you?ll give us an unboxing and assembly report!   Can?t wait to hear what you do with it ..
> 
> 
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From forums at deadmengods.com  Thu Feb 19 20:20:42 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:20:42 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <54E62996.80206@severity-one.com>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
 <54E62996.80206@severity-one.com>
Message-ID: <B285E3F4-3F5B-4367-BB7F-DF603E575650@deadmengods.com>

I wouldn?t know, I?ve never plugged in to it. I?ll check tomorrow :-)

/Micke

> On 19 feb 2015, at 19:21, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
> 
> Mikael Hansson schreef op 19-2-2015 om 17:39:
> 
>> Got some company back from work today :-)
> 
> What kind of music do they play in Swedish trains? :) (Noticing the volume controls on the seats.)
> 
> - Peter
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From forums at deadmengods.com  Fri Feb 20 00:05:14 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 00:05:14 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <F4473EAC-A0FB-42D4-BE58-CBA81E0512B9@gmail.com>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
 <7718BC3D-C423-4F98-B247-13185375B4CF@gmail.com>
 <F4473EAC-A0FB-42D4-BE58-CBA81E0512B9@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <636D2962-A976-4B37-92A4-03F852DBA5D5@deadmengods.com>

Well, I couldn?t wait until tomorrow so?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/65772202 at N06/sets/72157650502712529/ <https://www.flickr.com/photos/65772202 at N06/sets/72157650502712529/>

Assembling it was easy and straightforward. Spent some time looking for a spacer only to find that it had already been attached :-)

Just had a quick moment with the SQ-1 but too tired now to read the manual :-)

/Micke

> On 19 feb 2015, at 19:08, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>> 
>>> Got some company back from work today :-)
>>> 
> 
> 
> Very nice!  I hope you?ll give us an unboxing and assembly report!   Can?t wait to hear what you do with it ..
> 
> 
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com
> 
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 00:16:19 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 00:16:19 +0100
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <636D2962-A976-4B37-92A4-03F852DBA5D5@deadmengods.com>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
 <7718BC3D-C423-4F98-B247-13185375B4CF@gmail.com>
 <F4473EAC-A0FB-42D4-BE58-CBA81E0512B9@gmail.com>
 <636D2962-A976-4B37-92A4-03F852DBA5D5@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <34305528-152D-4B22-82DD-91010711F41D@gmail.com>

Lovely !!! :) 

Romain 




On 20 Feb 2015, at 00:05, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> Well, I couldn?t wait until tomorrow so?
> 
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/65772202 at N06/sets/72157650502712529/
> 
> Assembling it was easy and straightforward. Spent some time looking for a spacer only to find that it had already been attached :-)
> 
> Just had a quick moment with the SQ-1 but too tired now to read the manual :-)
> 
> /Micke
> 
>> On 19 feb 2015, at 19:08, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Got some company back from work today :-)
>>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Very nice!  I hope you?ll give us an unboxing and assembly report!   Can?t wait to hear what you do with it ..
>> 
>> 
>> ;
>> --
>> Jay Vaughan
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From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 07:19:15 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:19:15 +0200
Subject: Rebooting the studio
Message-ID: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>

Hi guys!

I didn?t sleep one single minute last night. When my head hit the pillow some 7 hours ago I for some inexplicable reason decided I would sell pretty much everything in my studio except:

- Kurzweil PC-88 keyboard (for the kids to practise their stuff)
- Nord Modular G2 (just can?t let that one go)
- Waldorf Pulse (so much balls that it simply won?t fit out the door)
- Oberkorn sequencer
- Oberheim SEM Patch Bay
- 9U of empty Doepfer cases

And:

- Moog Sub 37 (going to buy)
- Prophet 6 (will probably buy)
- Korg MS-20, the kit thingy (may buy)
  - alternatively I won?t sell the original MS-20

Then I?ll slowly expand the Euro stuff focusing on sequencing and interesting stuff, and otherwise go soft / iPad. And try to keep it simple.

A strange but somewhat liberating feeling?

Cheers,

	Kim

From kai at kainiggemann.com  Fri Feb 20 08:42:51 2015
From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:42:51 +1000
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>
References: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <DD99BAD3-0E92-45C3-8B89-FDCABE372F33@kainiggemann.com>


On 20.02.2015, at 16:19, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com> wrote:

> - Korg MS-20, the kit thingy (may buy)

Why?


>  - alternatively I won?t sell the original MS-20

if you have the original? 

sounds like a great reboot -- but keep the original MS-20. why wouldn't you?

;-)


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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb 20 10:08:41 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:08:41 -0000
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <DD99BAD3-0E92-45C3-8B89-FDCABE372F33@kainiggemann.com>
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Hi Kim / Kai

 

Few weeks back I sold my original MS20 with the view to buying the new
desktop version.  I like the extra sound params/USB Midi and actually like
the form factor more.

 

:)

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: K9 Kai Niggemann [mailto:kai at kainiggemann.com] 
Sent: 20 February 2015 07:43
To: Music bar
Subject: Re: Rebooting the studio

 

 

On 20.02.2015, at 16:19, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com
<mailto:johnssonkim at gmail.com> > wrote:





- Korg MS-20, the kit thingy (may buy)

 

Why?

 





 - alternatively I won't sell the original MS-20

 

if you have the original? 

 

sounds like a great reboot -- but keep the original MS-20. why wouldn't you?

 

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb 20 10:13:27 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:13:27 -0000
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
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Message-ID: <04c501d04ced$7f130f20$7d392d60$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Lucky boy!!

I sold my original MS20 to get one of these but then run out of money so the
purchase is on hold..  Hopefully they wont run out of units in the
meantime..

Let us know what you think of the sound..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikael Hansson [mailto:forums at deadmengods.com]
> Sent: 19 February 2015 16:39
> To: Music-Bar
> Subject: Travel companion
> 
> Got some company back from work today :-)



From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb 20 10:23:02 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:23:02 -0000
Subject: Travel companion
In-Reply-To: <04c501d04ced$7f130f20$7d392d60$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <FDE1243E-C748-4518-A37B-391B5F74B6A6@deadmengods.com>
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Just to add to my dilemma:

Then the ms20m was originally listed in the UK, all the sites had them at
1170euro which is exactly their price in the US.  This never happens in the
UK so I assumed it was a mistake.  Today, most of our UK sites list it at
1275euo (+100euro) which suggests the original price was a mistake.
However, one or two places still have it at the cheaper price.

So, if I leave it until I can afford it, I'm likely to be stung for an extra
100euro..  :(

I guess the obvious solution is buy it now  :)

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: foRUMS 4 punkdISCO [mailto:forums at punkdisco.co.uk]
> Sent: 20 February 2015 09:13
> To: 'Music-bar'
> Subject: RE: Travel companion
> 
> Lucky boy!!
> 
> I sold my original MS20 to get one of these but then run out of money so
the
> purchase is on hold..  Hopefully they wont run out of units in the
meantime..
> 
> Let us know what you think of the sound..
> 
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mikael Hansson [mailto:forums at deadmengods.com]
> > Sent: 19 February 2015 16:39
> > To: Music-Bar
> > Subject: Travel companion
> >
> > Got some company back from work today :-)
> 
> 
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Fri Feb 20 12:39:39 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:39:39 +0100
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <DD99BAD3-0E92-45C3-8B89-FDCABE372F33@kainiggemann.com>
References: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>
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>>  - alternatively I won?t sell the original MS-20
> 
> if you have the original? 
> 
> sounds like a great reboot -- but keep the original MS-20. why wouldn't you?

PWM
FM
Sync
2 filter revisions
USB + MIDI

:-)

/Micke
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From entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com  Fri Feb 20 15:30:48 2015
From: entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:30:48 -0600
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>
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I've done this several times.  Be very careful in what you let go, else you will find your self looking to get it back. Generally, any device I am considering selling, I put in storage for a period of time to see if I get the urge to go back to it.  If I don't go looking for 3 months, then I probably never will. Tony 
> From: johnssonkim at gmail.com
> Subject: Rebooting the studio
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:19:15 +0200
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> 
> Hi guys!
> 
> I didn?t sleep one single minute last night. When my head hit the pillow some 7 hours ago I for some inexplicable reason decided I would sell pretty much everything in my studio except:
> 
> - Kurzweil PC-88 keyboard (for the kids to practise their stuff)
> - Nord Modular G2 (just can?t let that one go)
> - Waldorf Pulse (so much balls that it simply won?t fit out the door)
> - Oberkorn sequencer
> - Oberheim SEM Patch Bay
> - 9U of empty Doepfer cases
> 
> And:
> 
> - Moog Sub 37 (going to buy)
> - Prophet 6 (will probably buy)
> - Korg MS-20, the kit thingy (may buy)
>   - alternatively I won?t sell the original MS-20
> 
> Then I?ll slowly expand the Euro stuff focusing on sequencing and interesting stuff, and otherwise go soft / iPad. And try to keep it simple.
> 
> A strange but somewhat liberating feeling?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 	Kim
> _______________________________________________
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From ronwest at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 15:33:44 2015
From: ronwest at gmail.com (Ron West)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 09:33:44 -0500
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W80F1FCC95A65BD0B4764B7F32A0@phx.gbl>
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> Generally, any device I am considering selling, I put in storage for a
> period of time to see if I get the urge to go back to it.  If I don't go
> looking for 3 months, then I probably never will.

Yea, but after 3 months you need to test it out before selling it and
we all know what happens then. :-)

From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 15:49:44 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:49:44 +0100
Subject: Rebooting the studio
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> 
> Yea, but after 3 months you need to test it out before selling it and
> we all know what happens then. :-)


Basically that was me 2 weeks ago. Not gonna do it. ;)


;
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ibisum at gmail.com

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb 20 16:00:21 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 15:00:21 -0000
Subject: Rebooting the studio
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Good news Jay..  Welcome back  :)

(not that you went anywhere..)


Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ibi sum [mailto:ibisum at gmail.com]
> Sent: 20 February 2015 14:50
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Re: Rebooting the studio
> 
> >
> > Yea, but after 3 months you need to test it out before selling it and
> > we all know what happens then. :-)
> 
> 
> Basically that was me 2 weeks ago. Not gonna do it. ;)
> 
> 
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com



From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 16:27:04 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:27:04 +0200
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <DD99BAD3-0E92-45C3-8B89-FDCABE372F33@kainiggemann.com>
References: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>
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> On 20 Feb 2015, at 09:42, K9 Kai Niggemann <kai at kainiggemann.com> wrote:
> 
>> - Korg MS-20, the kit thingy (may buy)
> 
> Why?

What Paul & Micke said. 

Cheers,

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From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 16:48:34 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 17:48:34 +0200
Subject: Rebooting the studio
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> On 20 Feb 2015, at 16:30, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:
> 
> I've done this several times.  Be very careful in what you let go, else you will find your self looking to get it back. 

Oh I know. But somehow this feels right.

> Generally, any device I am considering selling, I put in storage for a period of time to see if I get the urge to go back to it.  If I don't go looking for 3 months, then I probably never will. 

Well, I?m actually quite happy with all my stuff, and I am sure I will miss some of it, but there?s definitely some redundancy. Also, as an example, I probably only use 5% of the Andromeda?s capabilities, so a Prophet 6 simply makes more sense to me. I don?t like menus on synths. My current modular is extremely basic, and for all practical purposes the Kurz 2600R is just a preset box. It?s quite the chore to program. I don?t like menus on synths. Also have a couple of other ones which I like but really haven?t used for anything (MEK, Blofeld). The Jomox is also way underused.

The Pro One I think is similar enough to the Prophet 6 (well, it covers similar ground, I guess), the Voyager must have something in common with the Sub 37, and the Odyssey is being resurrected, so I don?t feel I?m losing anything neither completely nor for forever.

This really feels like a new beginning :-)

Sold the MEK and Monotribe today, so it has started. Wish me luck :-)

If someone is interested in what I?m selling, drop me a line.

Cheers,

	Kim


> Tony 
> 
> > From: johnssonkim at gmail.com <mailto:johnssonkim at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Rebooting the studio
> > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 08:19:15 +0200
> > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> > 
> > Hi guys!
> > 
> > I didn?t sleep one single minute last night. When my head hit the pillow some 7 hours ago I for some inexplicable reason decided I would sell pretty much everything in my studio except:
> > 
> > - Kurzweil PC-88 keyboard (for the kids to practise their stuff)
> > - Nord Modular G2 (just can?t let that one go)
> > - Waldorf Pulse (so much balls that it simply won?t fit out the door)
> > - Oberkorn sequencer
> > - Oberheim SEM Patch Bay
> > - 9U of empty Doepfer cases
> > 
> > And:
> > 
> > - Moog Sub 37 (going to buy)
> > - Prophet 6 (will probably buy)
> > - Korg MS-20, the kit thingy (may buy)
> > - alternatively I won?t sell the original MS-20
> > 
> > Then I?ll slowly expand the Euro stuff focusing on sequencing and interesting stuff, and otherwise go soft / iPad. And try to keep it simple.
> > 
> > A strange but somewhat liberating feeling?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Kim
> > _______________________________________________
> > music-bar mailing list
> > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org <mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar <http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar>
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From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 18:34:35 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 12:34:35 -0500
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <5181F4CE-6502-4B0C-B300-0D9A4F481118@gmail.com>

I?ve been meaning to trim the fat, but find it quite hard to do.

> On Feb 20, 2015, at 1:19 AM, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi guys!
> 
> I didn?t sleep one single minute last night. When my head hit the pillow some 7 hours ago I for some inexplicable reason decided I would sell pretty much everything in my studio except:
> 
> - Kurzweil PC-88 keyboard (for the kids to practise their stuff)
> - Nord Modular G2 (just can?t let that one go)
> - Waldorf Pulse (so much balls that it simply won?t fit out the door)
> - Oberkorn sequencer
> - Oberheim SEM Patch Bay
> - 9U of empty Doepfer cases
> 
> And:
> 
> - Moog Sub 37 (going to buy)
> - Prophet 6 (will probably buy)
> - Korg MS-20, the kit thingy (may buy)
>  - alternatively I won?t sell the original MS-20
> 
> Then I?ll slowly expand the Euro stuff focusing on sequencing and interesting stuff, and otherwise go soft / iPad. And try to keep it simple.
> 
> A strange but somewhat liberating feeling?
> 
> Cheers,


From forums at deadmengods.com  Fri Feb 20 18:55:07 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 18:55:07 +0100
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <366875D6-99BE-45F3-9ACC-F03D6E9A7549@gmail.com>
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> On 20 feb 2015, at 16:48, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...so a Prophet 6...the Sub 37?the Odyssey...

?and a MS-20M, hey this is MY list! ;-)

/Micke

From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 19:05:29 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 13:05:29 -0500
Subject: Rebooting the studio
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> On Feb 20, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 20 feb 2015, at 16:48, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ...so a Prophet 6...the Sub 37?the Odyssey...
> 
> ?and a MS-20M, hey this is MY list! ;-)

it?s everyones list...

From ibisum at gmail.com  Fri Feb 20 19:20:12 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 19:20:12 +0100
Subject: Rebooting the studio
In-Reply-To: <38B9B657-EC75-4A87-AD37-6413DBD2CC03@gmail.com>
References: <A5382843-9006-45C2-A9C7-BEA0B147690D@gmail.com>
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 <366875D6-99BE-45F3-9ACC-F03D6E9A7549@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <AA40BD3E-30B2-4364-BD92-F0DB054728F6@gmail.com>

>>> On 20 feb 2015, at 16:48, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> ...so a Prophet 6...the Sub 37?the Odyssey...
>> 
>> ?and a MS-20M, hey this is MY list! ;-)
> 
> it?s everyones list?


True, I want pretty much everything you guys have got, and if it weren?t for you guys, I would probably have it.  And still not be using it all..


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ibisum at gmail.com

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From forums at deadmengods.com  Fri Feb 20 21:58:30 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:58:30 +0100
Subject: MS-20 question
Message-ID: <2EFA7A3F-ADA0-4B52-9BD2-D0F9DA0257CD@deadmengods.com>

Is it possible to mod a MS-20 so you can modulate just one of the oscillators pitch or is it locked together by design?

Would be handy to apply when doing a sync sweep :-)

/Micke

From kai at kainiggemann.com  Sat Feb 21 01:56:29 2015
From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 10:56:29 +1000
Subject: Rebooting the studio
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On 20.02.2015, at 21:39, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

>> sounds like a great reboot -- but keep the original MS-20. why wouldn't you?
> 
> PWM
> FM
> Sync
> 2 filter revisions
> USB + MIDI


Ah. Ok, I can sort of see why. Especially the FM and sync. But then my old MS-20 with that one key with a cigarette burn (the previous-previous owner, not me! ;) feels like it has a history...;)

I will certainly get the SQ-1 though...!


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From forums at deadmengods.com  Sat Feb 21 16:18:35 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 16:18:35 +0100
Subject: MS-20M + SQ-1 first session
Message-ID: <C10EA250-2867-4BDD-9FE1-063BA3112655@deadmengods.com>

http://youtu.be/LSihcukPEfQ <http://youtu.be/LSihcukPEfQ>

Just trying out connecting stuff together :-)

/Micke
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 18:00:50 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 18:00:50 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <05be01d04a1c$7708ceb0$651a6c10$@punkdisco.co.uk>
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Hello Music-bar, 
My friend Tom created a funny instrument that he named ? the Tupare? ?
So we work a bit on  a song for RPM 2015 using this weird instrument and called the song ?the Tupare"? 

We hope we didn t miss the deadline for RPM 2015,  

and  that you guys will like it .. ( The Animal plants style) 

http://rpm14.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav


Romain 




On 16 Feb 2015, at 20:12, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:

> Hey Andy
>  
> Ive never heard that track before and its ace!!  Probably one of the best cover versions I have ever heard..
>  
> Good post..
>  
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>  
> From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew at bml.co.uk] 
> Sent: 16 February 2015 14:52
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
>  
> I always thought this was very 'punk disco'... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t33lsAv_bXA
>  
> - Andy_R
>  
> On 16 February 2015 at 14:43, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> Just do a burp sound to kick off the chorus or something similar :-)
> 
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
> 
> > 16 feb 2015 kl. 15:25 skrev foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>:
> >
> > Unfortunately for me, trade union regulations within punkdisco prohibit me
> > from ever singing within 100km of any designated punkdisco recording
> > facility..
> >
> > Looks our track will have to be Leah..
> >
> > Paul
> > London
> > www.punkdisco.co.uk
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
> >> Sent: 15 February 2015 19:23
> >> To: Music-bar
> >> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> >>
> >>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
> > bucks!)
> >> and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
> >>
> >> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)
> >>
> >> WIP!
> >>
> >> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Joost Schuttelaar
> >> The Hague, NL
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> music-bar mailing list
> >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> >
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sat Feb 21 18:18:14 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 18:18:14 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav


loving it, very ethereal!

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

From xtechcode at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 18:28:39 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 18:28:39 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Thank you Joost, :)

This link is more appropriate I guess  :)

http://rpm15.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav

When is exactly the deadline before the mastering ? ( I may want to change some few stuff ?  )

Did you add some voice to your song ? :P


Romain 




On 21 Feb 2015, at 18:18, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:

>> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav
> 
> 
> loving it, very ethereal!
> 
> -- 
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From xtechcode at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 19:07:58 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:07:58 +0100
Subject: MS-20M + SQ-1 first session
In-Reply-To: <C10EA250-2867-4BDD-9FE1-063BA3112655@deadmengods.com>
References: <C10EA250-2867-4BDD-9FE1-063BA3112655@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <3FA4FEDA-97EA-482A-BFC8-872833EC44F5@gmail.com>



This is super groovy  , cool !!! :D

http://youtu.be/LSihcukPEfQ

Romain 




On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:18, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> http://youtu.be/LSihcukPEfQ
> 
> Just trying out connecting stuff together :-)
> 
> /Micke
> _______________________________________________
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> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sat Feb 21 19:17:05 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:17:05 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Working on it, no voice yet, but with just one usable hand this is going slow? will upload a wip soon again...

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 21 Feb 2015, at 18:28, Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you add some voice to your song ? :P


From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sat Feb 21 19:18:04 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:18:04 +0100
Subject: Package forwarding from Germany?
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Thanks everyone :) Romain has taken care of it :)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 17 Feb 2015, at 13:00, Marek Szulen <mszulen at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Joost
> 
> I'm sorry for late response.
> I'm in NL (between Venlo and Eindhoven).
> 
> Marek
> 
> 2015-02-13 21:44 GMT+01:00 Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>:
> Who?s living in Germany? :) Kai, Marek also? I need to order a new Onkyo amplifier remote control, and Onkyo EU only ships to Germany? could I send the package to someone on the -bar, I?ll IBAN the postage, and they can forward it to me in NL?
> 
> --
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> 
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sat Feb 21 19:47:16 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 19:47:16 +0100
Subject: rpm 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZJnLdEAPiKMnXCLBsQnXyQJq+n1afQy2M+ZFNmJsaC4_A@mail.gmail.com>
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On 17 Feb 2015, at 16:14, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:

> https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet
> 
> done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....

Cool. Gives me some weird vibes :) hard to find the vocals ;)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 19:59:39 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:59:39 +0200
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Hi guys!

I naturally didn?t get anything done (just an intro, and then I decided to start selling stuff...), but my brother did. I think he was on MB on and off sometime ago, so he might qualify :-) :

I uploaded it here: http://rpm14.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav <http://rpm14.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav>

Now uploading it to: http://rpm15.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav <http://rpm15.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav> :-)

Recoil comes to mind. Not a bad thing, that.

Cheers,

	Kim

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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Sat Feb 21 20:07:02 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 11:07:02 -0800
Subject: rpm 2015
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On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Joost Schuttelaar <
joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:

> On 17 Feb 2015, at 16:14, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>
> > https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet
> >
> > done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....
>
> Cool. Gives me some weird vibes :) hard to find the vocals ;)
>
>
I'm not happy with the final mix, sounds pretty much how I wanted on really
nice headphones and speakers, but mediocre everywhere else.

I'm not sure it was really in the spirit of the constraint to essentially
turn my humming into an oscillator :)
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sat Feb 21 20:08:03 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 20:08:03 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <168ECECA-21AC-44BE-BF70-BAB9A8300874@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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WIP, needs vocals and many many refinements?

http://rpm15.music-bar.org/dancerobotdance3.mp3

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:17, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:
> 
> will upload a wip soon again...


From xtechcode at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 21:47:53 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:47:53 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <0B013616-E3DE-4A65-B6E8-81E43E8815E0@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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I really like the keys you add  at the end :) 

Romain 




On 21 Feb 2015, at 20:08, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:

> WIP, needs vocals and many many refinements?
> 
> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/dancerobotdance3.mp3
> 
> -- 
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> 
>> On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:17, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> will upload a wip soon again...
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From xtechcode at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 21:51:14 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 21:51:14 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <E40E78B5-4447-4CA9-B09B-0B8745E6D4F3@gmail.com>
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Really nice,  :D
Romain 




On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:59, Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi guys!
> 
> I naturally didn?t get anything done (just an intro, and then I decided to start selling stuff...), but my brother did. I think he was on MB on and off sometime ago, so he might qualify :-) :
> 
> I uploaded it here: http://rpm14.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav
> 
> Now uploading it to: http://rpm15.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav :-)
> 
> Recoil comes to mind. Not a bad thing, that.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 	Kim
> 
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Sat Feb 21 22:25:03 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2015 22:25:03 +0100
Subject: Hail Tepis!  
Message-ID: <335AE08E-6314-4813-B4B2-F8E90EBBDB67@gmail.com>

200 million years from now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0kzMmcTS8I&feature=youtu.be&t=22m18s

Geeze..

;
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Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From avarlinqui at hotmail.com  Sun Feb 22 10:56:04 2015
From: avarlinqui at hotmail.com (Marc Sims)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 09:56:04 +0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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 Hello peeps
 
Long time no hear, I've been advised / suggested / told that I should have an attempt at this with my new setup by Andy R.  Is the only constraint still just to have a vocal / noise from the writer in the track? and is the deadline for submissions still the 25th?
 
I have a track in mind which is something I've been working on for a while and can fit a user vocal created part with ease (although its a bit of a cheat) I just need to arrange it a lil better.
 
Marc
 		 	   		  
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Sun Feb 22 12:56:40 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 12:56:40 +0100
Subject: MS-20M + SQ-1 first session
In-Reply-To: <3FA4FEDA-97EA-482A-BFC8-872833EC44F5@gmail.com>
References: <C10EA250-2867-4BDD-9FE1-063BA3112655@deadmengods.com>
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Message-ID: <F65058F5-CAE6-4B01-87DC-AE82BDF9E468@gmail.com>

Hi Micke, I m very happy for you ( and bit jealous)  :) 
Just a question that I wonder, how the mod wheel and pitch wheel  react  to the MS20 M?
If I m not wrong the mod wheel out is gone from the patch bay of the MS20M ?
On the original MS20 the mod wheel does nothing if it s not plugged to something and there is no pitch wheel neither  ?






Romain 




On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:07, Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> This is super groovy  , cool !!! :D
> 
> http://youtu.be/LSihcukPEfQ
> 
> Romain 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Feb 2015, at 16:18, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> 
>> http://youtu.be/LSihcukPEfQ
>> 
>> Just trying out connecting stuff together :-)
>> 
>> /Micke
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sun Feb 22 12:55:13 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:55:13 +0000
Subject: MS-20M + SQ-1 first session
In-Reply-To: <C10EA250-2867-4BDD-9FE1-063BA3112655@deadmengods.com>
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Very cool..

Lovely..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mikael Hansson" <forums at deadmengods.com>
Sent: ?21/?02/?2015 15:18
To: "Music-Bar" <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: MS-20M + SQ-1 first session

http://youtu.be/LSihcukPEfQ


Just trying out connecting stuff together :-)


/Micke
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From cyrille.damez at laposte.net  Sun Feb 22 14:33:24 2015
From: cyrille.damez at laposte.net (Cyrille Damez)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:33:24 +0100
Subject: MS-20 question
In-Reply-To: <2EFA7A3F-ADA0-4B52-9BD2-D0F9DA0257CD@deadmengods.com>
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There is a separate CV input for the second VCO, so no need for a mod.

On 20/02/2015 21:58, Mikael Hansson wrote:
> Is it possible to mod a MS-20 so you can modulate just one of the oscillators pitch or is it locked together by design?
>
> Would be handy to apply when doing a sync sweep :-)
>
> /Micke
> _______________________________________________
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Sun Feb 22 14:45:23 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 14:45:23 +0100
Subject: MS-20 question
In-Reply-To: <54E9DAA4.9070809@laposte.net>
References: <2EFA7A3F-ADA0-4B52-9BD2-D0F9DA0257CD@deadmengods.com>
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Message-ID: <608BD28D-CDB1-45E6-9EAD-B43EE908E181@deadmengods.com>

It might have been replaced by something else on the new MS-20M...



/Micke

> On 22 feb 2015, at 14:33, Cyrille Damez <cyrille.damez at laposte.net> wrote:
> 
> There is a separate CV input for the second VCO, so no need for a mod.
> 
> On 20/02/2015 21:58, Mikael Hansson wrote:
>> Is it possible to mod a MS-20 so you can modulate just one of the oscillators pitch or is it locked together by design?
>> 
>> Would be handy to apply when doing a sync sweep :-)
>> 
>> /Micke
>> _______________________________________________
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>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sun Feb 22 17:27:24 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 16:27:24 -0000
Subject: MS-20 question
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Yes, the new MS20m has dropped the VCO 2 CV In (just under the volume knob):

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Korg_MS-20_Patch-Feld.jpg

 

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Mikael Hansson [mailto:forums at deadmengods.com] 
Sent: 22 February 2015 13:45
To: Music-Bar
Subject: Re: MS-20 question

 

It might have been replaced by something else on the new MS-20M...

 



 

/Micke

 

On 22 feb 2015, at 14:33, Cyrille Damez <cyrille.damez at laposte.net
<mailto:cyrille.damez at laposte.net> > wrote:

 

There is a separate CV input for the second VCO, so no need for a mod.

On 20/02/2015 21:58, Mikael Hansson wrote:



Is it possible to mod a MS-20 so you can modulate just one of the
oscillators pitch or is it locked together by design?

Would be handy to apply when doing a sync sweep :-)

/Micke
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sun Feb 22 18:59:04 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 18:59:04 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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 > <70F06BD5-03BE-4534-88A6-26AB6FC88A51@joostschuttelaar.nl> <,
 > <E40E78B5-4447-4CA9-B09B-0B8745E6D4F3@gmail.com> <,
 > <4123D968-DE03-4EA3-96DE-AD90FA379C14@gmail.com>
 <DUB109-W10703638F855652AD1ACC05CD280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <01BEBF1F-6E21-41A7-8AE7-E409EBD01E54@joostschuttelaar.nl>

Hey Marc! So cool to see you again :) Yes, the 25th and that is the only constraint. Do we have anyone to put all tracks together?

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 22 Feb 2015, at 10:56, Marc Sims <avarlinqui at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Is the only constraint still just to have a vocal / noise from the writer in the track? and is the deadline for submissions still the 25th?


From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Sun Feb 22 19:01:51 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 19:01:51 +0100
Subject: rpm 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZ+jynhhUnkUKO_PwVYU1qVYmV32=+KD_Sro4SJLhdDDVA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA7dtZJnLdEAPiKMnXCLBsQnXyQJq+n1afQy2M+ZFNmJsaC4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <5E9521AC-2B3D-4521-9E3C-87A24FD6DF1F@joostschuttelaar.nl>
 <CAA7dtZ+jynhhUnkUKO_PwVYU1qVYmV32=+KD_Sro4SJLhdDDVA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <79BA0560-0534-43F4-8AF9-9A4E454620C4@joostschuttelaar.nl>

Hmmm, I had no problems with that over here. Perhaps a tad muddy in the mids, but it didn?t bother me.

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 21 Feb 2015, at 20:07, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net> wrote:
> 
> but mediocre everywhere else.


From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Sun Feb 22 19:19:40 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:19:40 -0800
Subject: rpm 2015
In-Reply-To: <79BA0560-0534-43F4-8AF9-9A4E454620C4@joostschuttelaar.nl>
References: <CAA7dtZJnLdEAPiKMnXCLBsQnXyQJq+n1afQy2M+ZFNmJsaC4_A@mail.gmail.com>
 <5E9521AC-2B3D-4521-9E3C-87A24FD6DF1F@joostschuttelaar.nl>
 <CAA7dtZ+jynhhUnkUKO_PwVYU1qVYmV32=+KD_Sro4SJLhdDDVA@mail.gmail.com>
 <79BA0560-0534-43F4-8AF9-9A4E454620C4@joostschuttelaar.nl>
Message-ID: <CAA7dtZJQQodAqe4=OyiSqSJ8nbnmbO0DStV2KiPDJSfg2dUAYA@mail.gmail.com>

Oh good. I probably just got listening fatigue.

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Joost Schuttelaar <
joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:

> Hmmm, I had no problems with that over here. Perhaps a tad muddy in the
> mids, but it didn?t bother me.
>
> --
>
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
>
> > On 21 Feb 2015, at 20:07, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > but mediocre everywhere else.
>
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Sun Feb 22 21:22:23 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:22:23 +0100
Subject: MS-20M + SQ-1 first session
In-Reply-To: <F65058F5-CAE6-4B01-87DC-AE82BDF9E468@gmail.com>
References: <C10EA250-2867-4BDD-9FE1-063BA3112655@deadmengods.com>
 <3FA4FEDA-97EA-482A-BFC8-872833EC44F5@gmail.com>
 <F65058F5-CAE6-4B01-87DC-AE82BDF9E468@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <035FF479-4C0D-4B1B-9569-D8A693E19B38@deadmengods.com>


> On 22 feb 2015, at 12:56, Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Micke, I m very happy for you ( and bit jealous)  :) 
> Just a question that I wonder, how the mod wheel and pitch wheel  react  to the MS20 M?
> If I m not wrong the mod wheel out is gone from the patch bay of the MS20M ?
> On the original MS20 the mod wheel does nothing if it s not plugged to something and there is no pitch wheel neither  ?

Hi Romain,

I guess you mean if it responds to modulation and pitch bend by MIDI? Unfortunately not, it only responds to note on/off if I haven?t missed anything.

/Micke


From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sun Feb 22 21:49:04 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:49:04 -0000
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
Message-ID: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Finally finished our RPM track "2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)":

 

https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm

 

Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..  :)

 

Kit List:

Roland TB3 (main detuned acid synth)

Korg 770 (blips)

SE1X (bass x2)

Airbase

 

How do I upload the WAV to http://rpm15.music-bar.org ??

 

Feels good to finish a track!

 

Ta,

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

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From forums at deadmengods.com  Sun Feb 22 21:50:05 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:50:05 +0100
Subject: MS-20 question
In-Reply-To: <05ee01d04ebc$72e98870$58bc9950$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <2EFA7A3F-ADA0-4B52-9BD2-D0F9DA0257CD@deadmengods.com>
 <54E9DAA4.9070809@laposte.net>
 <608BD28D-CDB1-45E6-9EAD-B43EE908E181@deadmengods.com>
 <05ee01d04ebc$72e98870$58bc9950$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <6B5AA6DB-FC43-4B31-AF3E-11160F737B8E@deadmengods.com>


> On 22 feb 2015, at 17:27, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
> Yes, the new MS20m has dropped the VCO 2 CV In (just under the volume knob):
> http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Korg_MS-20_Patch-Feld.jpg <http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Korg_MS-20_Patch-Feld.jpg>
At first I thought it was a bit stupid as the sync effect is mostly interesting when modulating the pitch of VCO2 but there seemed to be no way for this to be modulated separately (except manually) but I might have found another way?

Here?s the section on the new features from the manual:

1. SYNC VCO 1->2 ON/OFF switch
This switch turns on/off syncing of VCO 2 with the VCO 1 frequency. The sync effect is easier to hear when PITCH of VCO 2 is set higher than PITCH of VCO 1.

2. FM VCO 1->2 ON/OFF switch
This switch turns on/off frequency modulation of the VCO 2 waveform with the waveform output of VCO 1. When this switch is set to ON, the MG/T.EXT level of FREQUENCY MODULATION is automatically set to the FM INTENSITY level. In addition, the connection at the TOTAL-jack is cut, and the EG1/EXT level only affects VCO 2, it does not affect VCO 1.

3. FILTER TYPE REV.1/REV.2 switch
This switch selects between the earlier filter (REV1) and the later filter (REV2).

4. VCO 1 PWM IN jack
When the triangular wave output of the MODULATION GENERATOR (LFO) is patched to this jack, PWM will be applied to the square wave of VCO 1. At that time, the PW level becomes the INTENSITY of PWM.

5. EG 2 NORMAL OUT jack
This is the normal EG 2 output jack that changes from 0V to +5V. If this output is patched to the CUTOFF FREQ jack of VOLTAGE CONTROLLED HP FILTER or LP FILTER, the SUSTAIN LEVEL knob of ENVELOPE GENERATOR 2 can create general motions.

6. TRIG IN (0V -> High) jack
This is a standard specification trigger input jack typically used by products from manufacturers other than Korg or Yamaha. According to this standard, the trigger is applied when the voltage is increased from 0 V to a + voltage.

7. VCO 1+2 CV IN (V/Oct) jack
This is a standard specification CV input jack typically used by products from manufacturers other than Korg or Yamaha. According to this standard, the pitch increases by 1 octave with each 1 V that the CV voltage is increased.

8. TRIG SW OUT jack
This is an output jack that drops to GND when the TRIG SW button (push-button), described below, is pressed. This is the same as the MOMENTARY SWITCH jack on the original MS-20.

9. TRIG SW button
Pressing this button performs the same operation as pressing C3 in the keyboard. The C3 pitch and trigger on are applied simultaneously.

10. JUNCTION jacks (3 lines)
One mini-phone jack and three standard phone jacks are connected in parallel. These provide three lines. They can be used to split a single output signal between multiple input jacks or to convert a mini-phone plug to a standard plug.


I can probably apply modulation to VCO2 pitch separately with SYNC on if I also set FM on but with an intensity of 0.

/Micke
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 00:18:29 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:18:29 +0100
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <A8D4BA4E-4C1A-4A20-840E-7CA4355A2B58@gmail.com>

I really love this track, it s very powerful !!! 
Makes me think of KMFDM :)

Romain 




On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:49, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:

> Finally finished our RPM track ?2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)?:
>  
> https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm
>  
> Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..  J
>  
> Kit List:
> Roland TB3 (main detuned acid synth)
> Korg 770 (blips)
> SE1X (bass x2)
> Airbase
>  
> How do I upload the WAV to http://rpm15.music-bar.org ??
>  
> Feels good to finish a track!
>  
> Ta,
>  
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>  
> _______________________________________________
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 00:21:38 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:21:38 +0100
Subject: MS-20M + SQ-1 first session
In-Reply-To: <035FF479-4C0D-4B1B-9569-D8A693E19B38@deadmengods.com>
References: <C10EA250-2867-4BDD-9FE1-063BA3112655@deadmengods.com>
 <3FA4FEDA-97EA-482A-BFC8-872833EC44F5@gmail.com>
 <F65058F5-CAE6-4B01-87DC-AE82BDF9E468@gmail.com>
 <035FF479-4C0D-4B1B-9569-D8A693E19B38@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <E3DB1881-C0DE-4B4C-B7A0-2F9094DB7CCA@gmail.com>

Unfortunately not, as  the ms20 mini  :( 

Romain 




On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:22, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> 
>> On 22 feb 2015, at 12:56, Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Micke, I m very happy for you ( and bit jealous)  :) 
>> Just a question that I wonder, how the mod wheel and pitch wheel  react  to the MS20 M?
>> If I m not wrong the mod wheel out is gone from the patch bay of the MS20M ?
>> On the original MS20 the mod wheel does nothing if it s not plugged to something and there is no pitch wheel neither  ?
> 
> Hi Romain,
> 
> I guess you mean if it responds to modulation and pitch bend by MIDI? Unfortunately not, it only responds to note on/off if I haven?t missed anything.
> 
> /Micke
> 
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 08:34:20 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:34:20 +0000
Subject: MS-20 question
In-Reply-To: <6B5AA6DB-FC43-4B31-AF3E-11160F737B8E@deadmengods.com>
References: <2EFA7A3F-ADA0-4B52-9BD2-D0F9DA0257CD@deadmengods.com>
 <54E9DAA4.9070809@laposte.net>
 <608BD28D-CDB1-45E6-9EAD-B43EE908E181@deadmengods.com>
 <05ee01d04ebc$72e98870$58bc9950$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <6B5AA6DB-FC43-4B31-AF3E-11160F737B8E@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.41.1424676331.960.music-bar@lists.music-bar.org>

Good find Micke.  Yes, it looks like FM is the solution..

Makes me want one even more:(

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mikael Hansson" <forums at deadmengods.com>
Sent: ?22/?02/?2015 20:50
To: "Music-Bar" <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: Re: MS-20 question



On 22 feb 2015, at 17:27, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
Yes, the new MS20m has dropped the VCO 2 CV In (just under the volume knob):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Korg_MS-20_Patch-Feld.jpg


At first I thought it was a bit stupid as the sync effect is mostly interesting when modulating the pitch of VCO2 but there seemed to be no way for this to be modulated separately (except manually) but I might have found another way?


Here?s the section on the new features from the manual:


1. SYNC VCO 1->2 ON/OFF switch
This switch turns on/off syncing of VCO 2 with the VCO 1 frequency. The sync effect is easier to hear when PITCH of VCO 2 is set higher than PITCH of VCO 1.


2. FM VCO 1->2 ON/OFF switch
This switch turns on/off frequency modulation of the VCO 2 waveform with the waveform output of VCO 1. When this switch is set to ON, the MG/T.EXT level of FREQUENCY MODULATION is automatically set to the FM INTENSITY level. In addition, the connection at the TOTAL-jack is cut, and the EG1/EXT level only affects VCO 2, it does not affect VCO 1.


3. FILTER TYPE REV.1/REV.2 switch
This switch selects between the earlier filter (REV1) and the later filter (REV2).


4. VCO 1 PWM IN jack
When the triangular wave output of the MODULATION GENERATOR (LFO) is patched to this jack, PWM will be applied to the square wave of VCO 1. At that time, the PW level becomes the INTENSITY of PWM.


5. EG 2 NORMAL OUT jack
This is the normal EG 2 output jack that changes from 0V to +5V. If this output is patched to the CUTOFF FREQ jack of VOLTAGE CONTROLLED HP FILTER or LP FILTER, the SUSTAIN LEVEL knob of ENVELOPE GENERATOR 2 can create general motions.


6. TRIG IN (0V -> High) jack
This is a standard specification trigger input jack typically used by products from manufacturers other than Korg or Yamaha. According to this standard, the trigger is applied when the voltage is increased from 0 V to a + voltage.


7. VCO 1+2 CV IN (V/Oct) jack
This is a standard specification CV input jack typically used by products from manufacturers other than Korg or Yamaha. According to this standard, the pitch increases by 1 octave with each 1 V that the CV voltage is increased.


8. TRIG SW OUT jack
This is an output jack that drops to GND when the TRIG SW button (push-button), described below, is pressed. This is the same as the MOMENTARY SWITCH jack on the original MS-20.


9. TRIG SW button
Pressing this button performs the same operation as pressing C3 in the keyboard. The C3 pitch and trigger on are applied simultaneously.


10. JUNCTION jacks (3 lines)
One mini-phone jack and three standard phone jacks are connected in parallel. These provide three lines. They can be used to split a single output signal between multiple input jacks or to convert a mini-phone plug to a standard plug.




I can probably apply modulation to VCO2 pitch separately with SYNC on if I also set FM on but with an intensity of 0.


/Micke
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Mon Feb 23 08:47:21 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:47:21 +0100
Subject: HBD Jay
Message-ID: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>

Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)

Hope you'll have a great day!

Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners

From deeplfo at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 09:12:29 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:12:29 -0800
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi7ji5OjKnjfTdH=knnjuN2vJEkP4Q3725Jdztc9Ce_LzA@mail.gmail.com>

Greetings and HBD as well.

Mohsen

On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 11:47 PM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com>
wrote:

> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
>
> Hope you'll have a great day!
>
> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 09:18:19 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:18:19 +0000
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.42.1424678964.960.music-bar@lists.music-bar.org>

Have a fantastic day, Jay!!!

Paul & Leah
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

-----Original Message-----
From: "Mikael Hansson" <forums at deadmengods.com>
Sent: ?23/?02/?2015 07:50
To: "Music-Bar" <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: HBD Jay

Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)

Hope you'll have a great day!

Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Mon Feb 23 09:23:35 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:23:35 +0100
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <17AD58DE-5925-4C69-9EF2-680634DE6618@upcmail.nl>

HBD Jay. Have a good one!

Gert
www.gertvansanten.nl

> Op 23 feb. 2015 om 08:47 heeft Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
> 
> Hope you'll have a great day!
> 
> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
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From tony at entity.net  Mon Feb 23 12:30:18 2015
From: tony at entity.net (Tony Hardie-Bick)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:30:18 +0000
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <54EB0F4A.3000305@entity.net>

Happy Birthday Jay!!!

On 23/02/15 07:47, Mikael Hansson wrote:
> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
>
> Hope you'll have a great day!
>
> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners

Sent from the future.

From canine at waf80.de  Mon Feb 23 12:46:50 2015
From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:46:50 +1000
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <54EB0F4A.3000305@entity.net>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
 <54EB0F4A.3000305@entity.net>
Message-ID: <FA967242-9575-498A-B9AF-DE3A4BC1CD4E@waf80.de>

Happy birthday, jay! May you find truth this year, the next and the previous!

Kai




Sent from my phone

On 23.02.2015, at 21:30, Tony Hardie-Bick <tony at entity.net> wrote:

> Happy Birthday Jay!!!
> 
> On 23/02/15 07:47, Mikael Hansson wrote:
>> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
>> 
>> Hope you'll have a great day!
>> 
>> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
> 
> Sent from the future.
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 13:07:38 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:07:38 +0100
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <833D5CAF-0864-464D-8D43-31DEEBAEF227@gmail.com>

Thank you music-bar.

I love hanging out with you guys, its pretty obvious.  You?re the best little collection of minds on the entire Internet.

Listening to all the new tunes among us for RPM is a treat also, so big thanks to everyone for this honor right now ..

;
;
--
Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From ibisum at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 13:08:15 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:08:15 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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> On Feb 22, 2015, at 18:59, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:
> Do we have anyone to put all tracks together?


Thats you isn?t it?


;
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Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Mon Feb 23 13:19:47 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:19:47 +0100
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <833D5CAF-0864-464D-8D43-31DEEBAEF227@gmail.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
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Message-ID: <F42124D0-BB5A-46C6-BB32-441A39D6EE8A@joostschuttelaar.nl>

happy birthday dude!

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

> On 23 Feb 2015, at 13:07, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you music-bar.
> 
> I love hanging out with you guys, its pretty obvious.  You?re the best little collection of minds on the entire Internet.
> 
> Listening to all the new tunes among us for RPM is a treat also, so big thanks to everyone for this honor right now ..
> 
> ;
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Mon Feb 23 13:22:28 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:22:28 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <E9ADDCA1-BF86-4CB8-AD4F-9710EE0C9B0F@gmail.com>
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On 23 Feb 2015, at 13:08, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

>> Do we have anyone to put all tracks together?
> 
> Thats you isn?t it?

Mastering and final encoding I meant. The lil? site I?ll do.

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From ibisum at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 13:36:40 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:36:40 +0100
Subject: rpm 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZ+jynhhUnkUKO_PwVYU1qVYmV32=+KD_Sro4SJLhdDDVA@mail.gmail.com>
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> I'm not happy with the final mix, sounds pretty much how I wanted on really nice headphones and speakers, but mediocre everywhere else.

I?m listening on Grado?s and my Genelecs and my only tweak is low-mids?-; to de-boom things a bit.

> I'm not sure it was really in the spirit of the constraint to essentially turn my humming into an oscillator :)

I love the track, I think its full of spirit.


;
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Jay Vaughan
ibisum at gmail.com

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From noisetheorem at outlook.com  Mon Feb 23 15:29:03 2015
From: noisetheorem at outlook.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:29:03 -0600
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
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Message-ID: <BAY179-W388C162E962A21B4E4BD1BCE290@phx.gbl>

Have a great one, Jay!  HBD!

> From: forums at deadmengods.com
> Subject: HBD Jay
> Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 08:47:21 +0100
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> 
> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
> 
> Hope you'll have a great day!
> 
> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 15:48:27 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:48:27 +0100
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
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> https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm
> Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..  J

Wow, flabbergasted.  Bloody amazing.



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ibisum at gmail.com

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From komatos at icloud.com  Mon Feb 23 17:13:53 2015
From: komatos at icloud.com (Dennis Jameson)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:13:53 -0500
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
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Happy birthday oh founding father of the former Teklab mailing lists, AMPFEA.org, SampleLibrary.net. Thanks for creating the lists 19-20 years ago to bring all of us like-minded individuals together.

--komatos/wasted
home.comcast.net/~komatos
twitter.com/KomatosRecords
soundcloud.com/KomatosRecords

> On Feb 23, 2015, at 2:47 AM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> 
> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
> 
> Hope you'll have a great day!
> 
> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
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> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Mon Feb 23 18:19:52 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:19:52 -0800
Subject: rpm 2015
In-Reply-To: <8024853D-4A71-4AE3-8E07-2F5872C5ADCF@gmail.com>
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 4:36 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> > I'm not happy with the final mix, sounds pretty much how I wanted on
> really nice headphones and speakers, but mediocre everywhere else.
>
> I?m listening on Grado?s and my Genelecs and my only tweak is low-mids?-;
> to de-boom things a bit.
>
> > I'm not sure it was really in the spirit of the constraint to
> essentially turn my humming into an oscillator :)
>
> I love the track, I think its full of spirit.
>
>
Thanks man. Yeah, I think it's unbalanced in the low-mids too listening
back.

I got sick of missing the cheap and easy fixes that I still remember how to
do with Waves C4 and L1/L2, so I gave in and picked up the sound design
pack, and might do a quick remaster before the deadline.
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Mon Feb 23 18:45:59 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:45:59 +0100
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
Message-ID: <C30F2901-5737-474F-9E23-B7F9B2412CF6@gmail.com>

Happy birthday Jay, 
wishing you all the best :) 

Romain 




On 23 Feb 2015, at 08:47, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:

> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
> 
> Hope you'll have a great day!
> 
> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
> _______________________________________________
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> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From tom.adam at thebigear.be  Mon Feb 23 20:02:24 2015
From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (ToAd)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:02:24 +0100
Subject: jam result for rpm
Message-ID: <54EB7940.5080002@thebigear.be>

http://rpm15.music-bar.org/Unreal%20-%20Terminal%20Wedgies%20vs%20PJ%20Markovic.wav 


From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 21:43:31 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:43:31 -0000
Subject: jam result for rpm
In-Reply-To: <54EB7940.5080002@thebigear.be>
References: <54EB7940.5080002@thebigear.be>
Message-ID: <0b0101d04fa9$6545e090$2fd1a1b0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Fab track dude!!  Wish I could sound this good just jamming!

What gear you used?

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ToAd [mailto:tom.adam at thebigear.be]
> Sent: 23 February 2015 19:02
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: jam result for rpm
> 
> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/Unreal%20-
> %20Terminal%20Wedgies%20vs%20PJ%20Markovic.wav
> 
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 21:52:30 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:52:30 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Message-ID: <0b5401d04faa$a6abdca0$f40395e0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

That's wonderful Romain..  I could hear that on a movie -it sounds really
pro.. (and made me smile)

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rom MUSIC BAR [mailto:xtechcode at gmail.com]
> Sent: 21 February 2015 17:29
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
> 
> Thank you Joost, :)
> 
> This link is more appropriate I guess  :)
> 
> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav
> 
> When is exactly the deadline before the mastering ? ( I may want to change
> some few stuff .  )
> 
> Did you add some voice to your song ? :P
> 
> 
> Romain
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Feb 2015, at 18:18, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>
> wrote:
> 
> >> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav
> >
> >
> > loving it, very ethereal!
> >
> > --
> >
> > Joost Schuttelaar
> > The Hague, NL
> > _______________________________________________
> > music-bar mailing list
> > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 21:56:54 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:56:54 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <DUB109-W10703638F855652AD1ACC05CD280@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <0b5601d04fab$43802d60$ca808820$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Hey Marc - great to hear from you..

 

Hows the track coming along?

 

:)

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Marc Sims [mailto:avarlinqui at hotmail.com] 
Sent: 22 February 2015 09:56
To: Music-bar
Subject: RE: Let's Do RPM 2015

 


 Hello peeps
 
Long time no hear, I've been advised / suggested / told that I should have
an attempt at this with my new setup by Andy R.  Is the only constraint
still just to have a vocal / noise from the writer in the track? and is the
deadline for submissions still the 25th?
 
I have a track in mind which is something I've been working on for a while
and can fit a user vocal created part with ease (although its a bit of a
cheat) I just need to arrange it a lil better.
 
Marc

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From tom.adam at thebigear.be  Mon Feb 23 22:01:37 2015
From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (ToAd)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 22:01:37 +0100
Subject: jam result for rpm
In-Reply-To: <0b0101d04fa9$6545e090$2fd1a1b0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <54EB7940.5080002@thebigear.be>
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Message-ID: <54EB9531.5050605@thebigear.be>

Modular, TM-3030, DIY drum machine, JD990 and voice.
The problem is, when doing stuff with the terminal wedgies and PJ, we 
usually never get any further than jamming...

foRUMS 4 punkdISCO schreef op 23/02/2015 om 21:43:
> Fab track dude!!  Wish I could sound this good just jamming!
>
> What gear you used?
>
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ToAd [mailto:tom.adam at thebigear.be]
>> Sent: 23 February 2015 19:02
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: jam result for rpm
>>
>> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/Unreal%20-
>> %20Terminal%20Wedgies%20vs%20PJ%20Markovic.wav
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 22:03:49 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:03:49 -0000
Subject: rpm 2015
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZJnLdEAPiKMnXCLBsQnXyQJq+n1afQy2M+ZFNmJsaC4_A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAA7dtZJnLdEAPiKMnXCLBsQnXyQJq+n1afQy2M+ZFNmJsaC4_A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0bc101d04fac$3accbd90$b06638b0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Some lovely textures in there Nigel..  Loving the almost backward sounding rhythm ? really pulls you in..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Nigel Kersten [mailto:nigel at 4trak.net] 
Sent: 17 February 2015 15:15
To: Music-bar
Subject: rpm 2015

 

https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet

done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....

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From andrew at bml.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 22:05:11 2015
From: andrew at bml.co.uk (Andrew Robinson)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:05:11 +0000
Subject: RPM done
Message-ID: <CA+Y59G6joufRJ_Bkft3CfUoRtjXmKA0Umc439BsB2O6UVKUSPg@mail.gmail.com>

This was a real struggle, but I'm entirely sure why. Turning this from 32
bar chord sequence in to an actual track proved really difficult, it kept
wanting to go classical and cheesy. I tried to make it quite 80s Art of
Noise Moments in Love,  but it fought back. At one point it was
anti-dubstep - a hard, heavy slow 70bpm build leading up to a massive drop
that didn't happen, but that made it something you'd listen to once then
throw away. It ended up as something that doesn't really fit in any genre.

My Mac isn't well, Apple have diagnosed my increasingly regular crashes as
a graphics card fault, and it's going to get a pair of new D300s in the
morning, which is another reason this ended up sounding a bit odd, I was
only able to work for about 20-30 minutes between hard resets.

Anyway, for what it's worth, here's "Quotes", stream at

https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/lx-nen-quotes

and high-res on the ftp site. I'm really looking forward to hearing
everyone else's tracks - I've tried not to listen until I signed off on
mine, but some popped up in my soundcloud feed already.

- Andy_R
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Mon Feb 23 22:09:37 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:09:37 -0000
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <A8D4BA4E-4C1A-4A20-840E-7CA4355A2B58@gmail.com>
References: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
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Message-ID: <0c1701d04fad$0b67e880$2237b980$@punkdisco.co.uk>

Thanks Romain - just googled KMFDM - good stuff!!  Going to listen to them
more..

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCifm2UPC0

 

thanks for pointer..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Rom MUSIC BAR [mailto:xtechcode at gmail.com] 
Sent: 22 February 2015 23:18
To: Music-bar
Subject: Re: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)

 

I really love this track, it s very powerful !!! 

Makes me think of KMFDM :)

 

Romain 

 

 

 

 

On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:49, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk
<mailto:forums at punkdisco.co.uk> > wrote:





Finally finished our RPM track "2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)":

 

 <https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm>
https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm

 

Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..  :)

 

Kit List:

Roland TB3 (main detuned acid synth)

Korg 770 (blips)

SE1X (bass x2)

Airbase

 

How do I upload the WAV to  <http://rpm15.music-bar.org/>
http://rpm15.music-bar.org ??

 

Feels good to finish a track!

 

Ta,

 

Paul

London

 <http://www.punkdisco.co.uk/> www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Mon Feb 23 22:10:54 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:10:54 -0800
Subject: rpm 2015
In-Reply-To: <0bc101d04fac$3accbd90$b06638b0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <CAA7dtZJnLdEAPiKMnXCLBsQnXyQJq+n1afQy2M+ZFNmJsaC4_A@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:03 PM, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
wrote:

> Some lovely textures in there Nigel..  Loving the almost backward sounding
> rhythm ? really pulls you in..
>

Thanks man! It was kind of an exercise in getting better at those sort of
textures when they're more in the background of drum n bass'ier things.

I'm using BufferShuffler, the Max 4 Live plugin, which chops up incoming
audio recycle-style and lets you reverse or skip individual steps. The
automation is pretty rudimentary on that plugin, so I'm storing presets and
switching between them using automation tracks.

The idea was to make the chopping up of audio and forwards/backwards rhythm
the core of the song, and vary the sounds going into it.




>
>
> Paul
>
> London
>
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>
>
>
> *From:* Nigel Kersten [mailto:nigel at 4trak.net]
> *Sent:* 17 February 2015 15:15
> *To:* Music-bar
> *Subject:* rpm 2015
>
>
>
> https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet
>
> done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....
>
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Mon Feb 23 22:24:43 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:24:43 -0800
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <0c1701d04fad$0b67e880$2237b980$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <A8D4BA4E-4C1A-4A20-840E-7CA4355A2B58@gmail.com>
 <0c1701d04fad$0b67e880$2237b980$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <CAA7dtZLZhu4HwH+LG9AcT95SQvYgA=80Br-MBs1F0izoVaHAkQ@mail.gmail.com>

REALLY?! You made something with that rhythm and hadn't heard them? That's
amazing.

Here are the must-listen KMFDM tracks in my mind:

A Drug Against War
Light
Sucks (got to get the humor in early)
Godlike (Chicago Trax Version)
Money


There's good bits and pieces around their whole history, but I really do
think the 92-95 or so era was their golden time.





On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:09 PM, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
wrote:

> Thanks Romain ? just googled KMFDM ? good stuff!!  Going to listen to them
> more..
>
>
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCifm2UPC0
>
>
>
> thanks for pointer..
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> London
>
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>
>
>
> *From:* Rom MUSIC BAR [mailto:xtechcode at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 22 February 2015 23:18
> *To:* Music-bar
> *Subject:* Re: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
>
>
>
> I really love this track, it s very powerful !!!
>
> Makes me think of KMFDM :)
>
>
>
> Romain
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:49, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Finally finished our RPM track ?2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)?:
>
>
>
> https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm
>
>
>
> Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..
> J
>
>
>
> Kit List:
>
> Roland TB3 (main detuned acid synth)
>
> Korg 770 (blips)
>
> SE1X (bass x2)
>
> Airbase
>
>
>
> How do I upload the WAV to http://rpm15.music-bar.org ??
>
>
>
> Feels good to finish a track!
>
>
>
> Ta,
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> London
>
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>
>
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From komatos at icloud.com  Mon Feb 23 22:35:44 2015
From: komatos at icloud.com (Dennis Jameson)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:35:44 -0500
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZLZhu4HwH+LG9AcT95SQvYgA=80Br-MBs1F0izoVaHAkQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <A8D4BA4E-4C1A-4A20-840E-7CA4355A2B58@gmail.com>
 <0c1701d04fad$0b67e880$2237b980$@punkdisco.co.uk>
 <CAA7dtZLZhu4HwH+LG9AcT95SQvYgA=80Br-MBs1F0izoVaHAkQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <266F93EE-1DE3-4F45-AB26-4CC78EB517CE@icloud.com>

Nihil is my quintessential KMFDM album. Got into them based on Juke Joint Jezebel being on the soundtrack for both the Rumble In The Bronx (Jackie Chan) & Mortal Kombat movies. Every song on that album is great, and I still play it fairly regularly 20 years later. I also bought Symbols and a couple other KMFDM albums that came out afterwards. They (and NIN) were my first foray into Industrial music (I'm sure moron and a couple others on this list might say they're not "true" industrial, but I digress).

--komatos/wasted
home.comcast.net/~komatos
twitter.com/KomatosRecords
soundcloud.com/KomatosRecords

> On Feb 23, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net> wrote:
> 
> REALLY?! You made something with that rhythm and hadn't heard them? That's amazing.
> 
> Here are the must-listen KMFDM tracks in my mind:
> 
> A Drug Against War
> Light
> Sucks (got to get the humor in early)
> Godlike (Chicago Trax Version)
> Money
> 
> 
> There's good bits and pieces around their whole history, but I really do think the 92-95 or so era was their golden time.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:09 PM, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>> Thanks Romain ? just googled KMFDM ? good stuff!!  Going to listen to them more..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCifm2UPC0
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> thanks for pointer..
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> London
>> 
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> From: Rom MUSIC BAR [mailto:xtechcode at gmail.com] 
>> Sent: 22 February 2015 23:18
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: Re: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> I really love this track, it s very powerful !!! 
>> 
>> Makes me think of KMFDM :)
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Romain 
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:49, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Finally finished our RPM track ?2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)?:
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..  J
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Kit List:
>> 
>> Roland TB3 (main detuned acid synth)
>> 
>> Korg 770 (blips)
>> 
>> SE1X (bass x2)
>> 
>> Airbase
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> How do I upload the WAV to http://rpm15.music-bar.org ??
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Feels good to finish a track!
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Ta,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Paul
>> 
>> London
>> 
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> 
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Mon Feb 23 22:41:35 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:41:35 -0800
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <D4586DC4-1FA1-45D4-879A-FFF3389EF234@gmail.com>
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On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Music-bar,
> My friend Tom created a funny instrument that he named ? the Tupare? ?
> So we work a bit on  a song for RPM 2015 using this weird instrument and
> called the song ?the Tupare"?
>
> We hope we didn t miss the deadline for RPM 2015,
>
> and  that you guys will like it .. ( The Animal plants style)
>
> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav
>
>
I really like this. Somehow reminded me of both Get Ur Freak On and a
certain period of Bj?rk.
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Mon Feb 23 22:46:09 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:46:09 -0800
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <266F93EE-1DE3-4F45-AB26-4CC78EB517CE@icloud.com>
References: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
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On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Dennis Jameson <komatos at icloud.com> wrote:

> Nihil is my quintessential KMFDM album. Got into them based on Juke Joint
> Jezebel being on the soundtrack for both the Rumble In The Bronx (Jackie
> Chan) & Mortal Kombat movies. Every song on that album is great, and I
> still play it fairly regularly 20 years later. I also bought Symbols and a
> couple other KMFDM albums that came out afterwards. They (and NIN) were my
> first foray into Industrial music (I'm sure moron and a couple others on
> this list might say they're not "true" industrial, but I digress).
>

I was *this* close to putting Juke Joint Jezebel on, but somehow felt like
the albums before that were more their quintessential sound. Probably a
reflection on when they first blew my mind in industrial clubs :)

"true" industrial is such a pointless argument given the term gets used to
cover everything from Throbbing Gristle to Front 242 to Skinny Puppy to
Einst?rzende Neubauten to Ministry.




>
> --komatos/wasted
> home.comcast.net/~komatos
> twitter.com/KomatosRecords
> soundcloud.com/KomatosRecords
>
> On Feb 23, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net>
> wrote:
>
> REALLY?! You made something with that rhythm and hadn't heard them? That's
> amazing.
>
> Here are the must-listen KMFDM tracks in my mind:
>
> A Drug Against War
> Light
> Sucks (got to get the humor in early)
> Godlike (Chicago Trax Version)
> Money
>
>
> There's good bits and pieces around their whole history, but I really do
> think the 92-95 or so era was their golden time.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:09 PM, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <
> forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Romain ? just googled KMFDM ? good stuff!!  Going to listen to
>> them more..
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVCifm2UPC0
>>
>>
>>
>> thanks for pointer..
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> London
>>
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rom MUSIC BAR [mailto:xtechcode at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 22 February 2015 23:18
>> *To:* Music-bar
>> *Subject:* Re: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
>>
>>
>>
>> I really love this track, it s very powerful !!!
>>
>> Makes me think of KMFDM :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Romain
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 Feb 2015, at 21:49, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Finally finished our RPM track ?2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)?:
>>
>>
>>
>> https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm
>>
>>
>>
>> Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..
>>  J
>>
>>
>>
>> Kit List:
>>
>> Roland TB3 (main detuned acid synth)
>>
>> Korg 770 (blips)
>>
>> SE1X (bass x2)
>>
>> Airbase
>>
>>
>>
>> How do I upload the WAV to http://rpm15.music-bar.org ??
>>
>>
>>
>> Feels good to finish a track!
>>
>>
>>
>> Ta,
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> London
>>
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
>>
>>
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Tue Feb 24 11:54:37 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:54:37 +0100
Subject: jam result for rpm
In-Reply-To: <54EB7940.5080002@thebigear.be>
References: <54EB7940.5080002@thebigear.be>
Message-ID: <EA3C8925-75D2-40EE-B01E-7BCFED3F2860@joostschuttelaar.nl>

On 23 Feb 2015, at 20:02, ToAd <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:

> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/Unreal%20-%20Terminal%20Wedgies%20vs%20PJ%20Markovic.wav 

Rocking.

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From johnssonkim at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 15:53:25 2015
From: johnssonkim at gmail.com (Kim Johnsson)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:53:25 +0200
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <C30F2901-5737-474F-9E23-B7F9B2412CF6@gmail.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
 <C30F2901-5737-474F-9E23-B7F9B2412CF6@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <07198C55-C00B-4272-B55E-63FE56789321@gmail.com>

Oh yes, a late one from me as well!

Cheers,

	Kim

> On 23 Feb 2015, at 19:45, Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Happy birthday Jay, 
> wishing you all the best :) 
> 
> Romain 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 23 Feb 2015, at 08:47, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
> 
>> Happy Birthday mate and beloved founding father! :-)
>> 
>> Hope you'll have a great day!
>> 
>> Sent from Mikaels rectangular device with rounded corners
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From entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com  Tue Feb 24 16:35:42 2015
From: entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:35:42 -0600
Subject: Once you go Mac..
Message-ID: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>

So...my PC DAW died a sudden agonizing death. My data is secure and backed up, but it like looks like the mother board might be hosed. It's been acting up for a while, and the diagnostic I ran showed too many red lights to trust it with production going forward.So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac. This was the third PC I've had go bad not long out of warranty, and I'm looking to make a switch. My wife's MacBook has been wonderful for her, so I'm just going to suck it up and pay the apple tax.Right now I'm looking at an iMac 27 inch. Probably not a retina since it will shave some cost. I know to upgrade RAM myself. What should I do for storage? What's a fusion drive compared to a flash(I imagine that's Apple speak for SSD?).Also, how reliable are FireWire to Lightening adapters?  I'd rather not also have to upgrade my audio interface.  What does the bar suggest?  Tony 		 	   		  
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From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Tue Feb 24 16:44:24 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:44:24 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
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Tony Scharf schreef op 24-2-2015 om 16:35:
>
> What does the bar suggest?

Kristin has an iMac. She loves it.

The fusion drive is partly SSD (programs and system) and partly 
HDD, as far as I understand it. I use only SSD's for internal 
drives and love them.

Since I lost my last PC a couple of years back (it made me 
completely crazy!), I'm using Windows 7 and 8 on Macbooks. Double 
boot (Bootcamp). Since then, I never had any trouble at all with 
Windows. I have to use Windows because of my speech to text 
program (Dragon) and some of my dictionaries.

Have fun :-)

-- 
Gert

gert van santen
www.gertvansanten.nl

From ibisum at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 16:46:55 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:46:55 +0100
Subject: HBD Jay
In-Reply-To: <07198C55-C00B-4272-B55E-63FE56789321@gmail.com>
References: <C9C420D3-E1C9-4ADB-8D1D-C6F5B28D0CFD@deadmengods.com>
 <C30F2901-5737-474F-9E23-B7F9B2412CF6@gmail.com>
 <07198C55-C00B-4272-B55E-63FE56789321@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <14490887-31D3-4827-A2EA-E474FB7F9E04@gmail.com>

> Oh yes, a late one from me as well!

Thanks - it was a great day, simple and full of fun times with the family .. thanks again, music-bar.


;
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 16:49:13 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 16:49:13 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
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> 
> What should I do for storage? What's a fusion drive compared to a flash(I imagine that's Apple speak for SSD?).
> 

Flash is frickin? Flash-RAM, which makes it real fast.  Fusion drive is a combination RAM/spinning-disk drive, which is also fast.

Just get the smallest Flash drive you can stand, and then invest in a decent external array that runs over Lightning.


> Also, how reliable are FireWire to Lightening adapters?  I'd rather not also have to upgrade my audio interface.

Never had any problems with the adapters I use, they just plug in and work.

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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Tue Feb 24 17:05:19 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:05:19 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <462DB90B-5A24-4974-B4C2-887C2A2CFD08@joostschuttelaar.nl>

On 24 Feb 2015, at 16:35, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:

> iMac 27 inch. Probably not a retina


I dare you to take a look at one in the shop and then repeat that sentence :)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Tue Feb 24 17:06:30 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:06:30 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <242F6EDD-698C-4746-BBCE-564C8DDFE399@gmail.com>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <2992CF07-CA74-4998-9FF0-744E184858D1@joostschuttelaar.nl>

On 24 Feb 2015, at 16:49, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> Just get the smallest Flash drive you can stand, and then invest in a decent external array that runs over Lightning.

+1.

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 17:11:01 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:11:01 -0500
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5972E02C-ECB1-4EBA-B515-0A51C87E9E1D@gmail.com>

My basic rule, and I guess it applies more to laptops lately is buy the absolute max. Also I buy direct from Apple as you tend to get better support. It?s worth noting that I?m buying machines for my business so the value is recouped almost instantly. I would buy the 5k iMac hands down, it wouldn?t be worth skimping, unless you have a have a hard budget line. I never liked the idea of the fusion drive (Apples fancy word for part spinning drive part SSD,) the drive smartly moving data around? I?m sure it?s fine but no thanks. I would not buy a machine with a moving parts drive, I immediately feel a difference, side note, the bigger the flash drive the faster it is :) Also get applecare.

I use the Apple lightning to firewire 800 adapter connected to a firewire 800 external drive daisy chained to another firewire 800 drive then to a 15ft 800 to 400 cable to my motu :) works fine (until this arrives https://eshop.macsales.com/preorder/OWC-Thunderbolt2-Dock/.) The only think with the adapter is I don?t think it can?t pass power, so if I hook up a bus powered lightning HDD to the adapter to a 800 port on a laptop it does not turn on, don?t know if it works the other way around.

> On Feb 24, 2015, at 10:35 AM, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:
> 
> So...my PC DAW died a sudden agonizing death. My data is secure and backed up, but it like looks like the mother board might be hosed. It's been acting up for a while, and the diagnostic I ran showed too many red lights to trust it with production going forward.
> 
> So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac. This was the third PC I've had go bad not long out of warranty, and I'm looking to make a switch. My wife's MacBook has been wonderful for her, so I'm just going to suck it up and pay the apple tax.
> 
> Right now I'm looking at an iMac 27 inch. Probably not a retina since it will shave some cost. I know to upgrade RAM myself. 
> 
> What should I do for storage? What's a fusion drive compared to a flash(I imagine that's Apple speak for SSD?).
> 
> Also, how reliable are FireWire to Lightening adapters?  I'd rather not also have to upgrade my audio interface.  
> 
> What does the bar suggest?  
> Tony
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From andrew at bml.co.uk  Tue Feb 24 18:09:05 2015
From: andrew at bml.co.uk (Andrew Robinson)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:09:05 +0000
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
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Fusion drive is a great idea if you need to avoid external drives (ie you have a laptop) but I'm not sure they make sense otherwise. You're going to have lots of studio hardware anyway, so I'd add a cheap 4tb external and I'd go for at least 512gb ssd internal instead. In a few years when spinning disks are fully replaced by ssd, you can swap the 4tb over or relegate it to a sneaker net backup drive. This is my setup at the moment, I do everything on the ssd and archive to the external... I regret not getting a 1tb ssd, but then I do a lot of heavy video editing. If you plan on a dual boot with windows you might need 1tb too.

FireWire to lighting should be fine. 

The retina is something you might be kicking yourself about in a few years if you don't get it, with 4k being heavily pushed for consumer TVs soon, non retina capable machines will look dated in a couple of years imho... Plus you'll be able to edit 4k footage beautifully on the 5k screen - I don't know if this is a factor for you?

- Andy_R

> On 24 Feb 2015, at 15:35, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:
> 
> So...my PC DAW died a sudden agonizing death. My data is secure and backed up, but it like looks like the mother board might be hosed. It's been acting up for a while, and the diagnostic I ran showed too many red lights to trust it with production going forward.
> 
> So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac. This was the third PC I've had go bad not long out of warranty, and I'm looking to make a switch. My wife's MacBook has been wonderful for her, so I'm just going to suck it up and pay the apple tax.
> 
> Right now I'm looking at an iMac 27 inch. Probably not a retina since it will shave some cost. I know to upgrade RAM myself. 
> 
> What should I do for storage? What's a fusion drive compared to a flash(I imagine that's Apple speak for SSD?).
> 
> Also, how reliable are FireWire to Lightening adapters?  I'd rather not also have to upgrade my audio interface.  
> 
> What does the bar suggest?  
> Tony
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From tom.adam at thebigear.be  Tue Feb 24 18:20:36 2015
From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (ToAd)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:20:36 +0100
Subject: Need more inputs....
Message-ID: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>

Hi guys,
I want some more inputs on my DAW (windows).  Currently having 8 
inputs/outputs doesn't do it for me any more.
I did some reading and came up with 2 options;

get me a couple of these boys
http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Behringer-ADA8200-8-Ch.-MicPre-und-AD/DA/art-REC0010391-000 

and this audio interface
http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Computer/Audio-interfaces/RME-HDSPe-RayDAT-ADAT-PCI-Express-Card/art-PCM0007721-000#FullDetails 

And add an USB fader box thing to use as 'mixing' console.

or
buy me a couple of these mixing desks. (yes, space is a non issue for me)
http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Mackie-ONYX-1640I-Mixer/art-PAH0008837-000

I hate to go back to the behringer route for the ADA, but these are the 
only ones I can afford. Nice thing for the ADAT route is that you have 
some expert sleepers stuff that can be very interesting. On the other 
hand, the mixing desks I can use without the computer on, which 
increases my fun factor a lot.

Any input appreciated. Maybe I missed an obvious solution...

Cheers,
ToAd

From forums at deadmengods.com  Tue Feb 24 18:32:57 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:32:57 +0100
Subject: Need more inputs....
In-Reply-To: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>
References: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>
Message-ID: <4C126BEA-FA37-4C00-85A3-2469A12230DC@deadmengods.com>

I ordered the Behringer last week, should have it probably this week. Easy and relatively cheap solution to double up on inputs.

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 24 feb 2015 kl. 18:20 skrev ToAd <tom.adam at thebigear.be>:
> 
> Hi guys,
> I want some more inputs on my DAW (windows).  Currently having 8 inputs/outputs doesn't do it for me any more.
> I did some reading and came up with 2 options;
> 
> get me a couple of these boys
> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Behringer-ADA8200-8-Ch.-MicPre-und-AD/DA/art-REC0010391-000 
> and this audio interface
> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Computer/Audio-interfaces/RME-HDSPe-RayDAT-ADAT-PCI-Express-Card/art-PCM0007721-000#FullDetails 
> And add an USB fader box thing to use as 'mixing' console.
> 
> or
> buy me a couple of these mixing desks. (yes, space is a non issue for me)
> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Mackie-ONYX-1640I-Mixer/art-PAH0008837-000
> 
> I hate to go back to the behringer route for the ADA, but these are the only ones I can afford. Nice thing for the ADAT route is that you have some expert sleepers stuff that can be very interesting. On the other hand, the mixing desks I can use without the computer on, which increases my fun factor a lot.
> 
> Any input appreciated. Maybe I missed an obvious solution...
> 
> Cheers,
> ToAd
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar

From deeplfo at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 18:48:45 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 09:48:45 -0800
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi7GAAJ5jQGq_0dHLhJFKCowNYNd2+v=EZQ5mbVVjYrmdw@mail.gmail.com>

I had wrote about my going MacPro a while go, but not in any detail....

So, the best thing that ever happened to my computing needs was to ditch
the PC and get the Mac.  Ableton Live still crashes here and there (have
manage to curtail that a bit with not loading a bunch of default tracks in
my template), and it's not that there are no issues whatsoever with the
platform.  However, it's just that everything feels so LESS KLUNKY than
Windows.  There just seems to be a little bit of thought having gone into
things, and as an end user I *SO* appreciate that.  (I still have the
Windows machine sitting around, and it's mostly used for connecting to work
and misc. items like that).

For the MacPro I ended up going with the 512 G flash drive, bought a couple
of 7-port, AC powered, USB3 hubs, and bought a few 1 TB and  2 TB USB3
drives.  My old Echo Audio Firewire8 didn't like playing with the
Firewire-to-Thunderbolt adapter, and it also seemed time to upgrade, which
had me buy the Focusrite Saffire audio interface.   It was actually a good
thing that the Echo didn't work out, as the Saffire, combined with my
recently acquired Equator speakers, and adding the MacPro to the mix, was
the BEST thing that's happened to my studio in a while :-)

It's been such a nice experience making the switch that there is absolutely
no way that I would ever buy another PC/Windows machine.  And in fact as
soon as I can swing it, I will be looking at another MacPro to add to the
family :-)

Mohsen
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 19:33:01 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:33:01 +0100
Subject: Need more inputs....
In-Reply-To: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>
References: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>
Message-ID: <1DA2522F-FEF4-4651-95AC-6BF12FA59589@gmail.com>

> Any input appreciated. Maybe I missed an obvious solution?


Check out Presonus gear too, they are quite competitive feature and price-wise, imho:

http://www.presonus.com/products/StudioLive-16.0.2

That?ll be my next mixer as soon as I can afford it .. I?ve already got two FP10?s that I?ll wire up to it so that?ll give me 36 channels of audio ..

;
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ibisum at gmail.com

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From randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Feb 24 19:43:26 2015
From: randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk (random variate)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 18:43:26 +0000
Subject: Once you go Mac..
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS1891ED6D02B36F93906540BF5160@phx.gbl>

My self build i5 16gb RAM Windows7  DAW PC running Cubase 7.5 machine is rock solid.

Maybe your PC build was sketchy?

Horses for courses ?
________________________________
From: deeplfo<mailto:deeplfo at gmail.com>
Sent: ?24/?02/?2015 17:48
To: Music-bar<mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..

I had wrote about my going MacPro a while go, but not in any detail....

So, the best thing that ever happened to my computing needs was to ditch
the PC and get the Mac.  Ableton Live still crashes here and there (have
manage to curtail that a bit with not loading a bunch of default tracks in
my template), and it's not that there are no issues whatsoever with the
platform.  However, it's just that everything feels so LESS KLUNKY than
Windows.  There just seems to be a little bit of thought having gone into
things, and as an end user I *SO* appreciate that.  (I still have the
Windows machine sitting around, and it's mostly used for connecting to work
and misc. items like that).

For the MacPro I ended up going with the 512 G flash drive, bought a couple
of 7-port, AC powered, USB3 hubs, and bought a few 1 TB and  2 TB USB3
drives.  My old Echo Audio Firewire8 didn't like playing with the
Firewire-to-Thunderbolt adapter, and it also seemed time to upgrade, which
had me buy the Focusrite Saffire audio interface.   It was actually a good
thing that the Echo didn't work out, as the Saffire, combined with my
recently acquired Equator speakers, and adding the MacPro to the mix, was
the BEST thing that's happened to my studio in a while :-)

It's been such a nice experience making the switch that there is absolutely
no way that I would ever buy another PC/Windows machine.  And in fact as
soon as I can swing it, I will be looking at another MacPro to add to the
family :-)

Mohsen
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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 20:08:46 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:08:46 -0800
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <DUB405-EAS1891ED6D02B36F93906540BF5160@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB405-EAS1891ED6D02B36F93906540BF5160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi4M7AveOzKb8vS0-m0zizw5A9OksYv2cF-O=hrmpx95QA@mail.gmail.com>

So, actually it wasn't so much the hardware that was the issue.  Although
noisy fans and drives bug the hell out of me, but that can be addressed...

It's really the OS and UI that shines.  I have been around long enough to
work on various platforms, and have to do so even today for work, but for
my personal computing needs, I need something that feels less business-like
:-).

Another example, prior to my Macs, for my teaching gig I was using the
usual Office tools, Word, PPT, etc..but having used Pages and Keynote in
the last six months has been such a  nice change.  Better workflow, less
errors, issues and annoyances,...This is not to say that there aren't any
problems at all, that's the nature of these devices and the complex
software that goes with them, but functionally speaking, things are a lot
smoother going now :-)

btw, on a different note, my MacPro's silent existence is worth EVERY PENNY
that I spent on that thing :-)

Mohsen

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 10:43 AM, random variate <
randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

>  My self build i5 16gb RAM Windows7  DAW PC running Cubase 7.5 machine is
> rock solid.
>
> Maybe your PC build was sketchy?
>
> Horses for courses [image: ?]
>  ------------------------------
> From: deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com>
> Sent: ?24/?02/?2015 17:48
> To: Music-bar <music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
> Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..
>
>   I had wrote about my going MacPro a while go, but not in any detail....
>
>  So, the best thing that ever happened to my computing needs was to ditch
> the PC and get the Mac.  Ableton Live still crashes here and there (have
> manage to curtail that a bit with not loading a bunch of default tracks in
> my template), and it's not that there are no issues whatsoever with the
> platform.  However, it's just that everything feels so LESS KLUNKY than
> Windows.  There just seems to be a little bit of thought having gone into
> things, and as an end user I *SO* appreciate that.  (I still have the
> Windows machine sitting around, and it's mostly used for connecting to work
> and misc. items like that).
>
>  For the MacPro I ended up going with the 512 G flash drive, bought a
> couple of 7-port, AC powered, USB3 hubs, and bought a few 1 TB and  2 TB
> USB3 drives.  My old Echo Audio Firewire8 didn't like playing with the
> Firewire-to-Thunderbolt adapter, and it also seemed time to upgrade, which
> had me buy the Focusrite Saffire audio interface.   It was actually a good
> thing that the Echo didn't work out, as the Saffire, combined with my
> recently acquired Equator speakers, and adding the MacPro to the mix, was
> the BEST thing that's happened to my studio in a while :-)
>
>  It's been such a nice experience making the switch that there is
> absolutely no way that I would ever buy another PC/Windows machine.  And in
> fact as soon as I can swing it, I will be looking at another MacPro to add
> to the family :-)
>
>  Mohsen
>
>
>
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Tue Feb 24 20:15:09 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:15:09 -0000
Subject: Need more inputs....
In-Reply-To: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>
References: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>
Message-ID: <100801d05066$37123210$a5369630$@punkdisco.co.uk>

[ADAT interfaces - one of my favourite subjects!!]

Hey ToAd

I have two of those Behringer interfaces; the original ADA8000 and the newer
ADA8200.  They are highly recommended by me and even Sound on Sound loves
them!!  If money is an option, the older ADA8000 can be found for probably
100euro used..

> and this audio interface
>
http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Computer/Audio-interfaces/RME-HDSPe-RayDA
T-ADAT-PCI-Express-Card/art-PCM0007721-000#FullDetails

Wow, that looks a little expensive!!  Are there not cheaper ADAT cards?  Im
still using an old Motu 424 pci setup along with two 2408mk which have
3xADAT each (2xADAT if you also use the 2408s analogue i/o [which most
people would do]).  These Motu setups again are pretty cheap..

> And add an USB fader box thing to use as 'mixing' console. 

I have not had mixer faders in my studio for probably 8 years and, don't
miss them at all.  All I ever used a mixer for was to get the level to an
optimum level for recording.

> buy me a couple of these mixing desks. (yes, space is a non issue for me)

For me its not just about space but rather, I love the convenience of ADAT
interfaces.  You can plant them anywhere in your studio with a simple (and
very inexpensive) ADAT optical cable.  Indeed, I have my 4 sets of 8 i/o in
four different places, exactly where they are needed with no wiring
nightmares.

> Nice thing for the ADAT route is that you have some expert sleepers stuff
that can be very interesting

YEP!!!  I have the wonderful ES3 with a ES5 expander giving me 7CV and
8Gates all from a single ADAT.  This single ADAT is actually capable of
running a whopping 54(!) channels of CV or Gate (in any combinations you
choose).  This picture shows a fully expanded ES3 using a single ADAT:

http://1lmm.com/pub1/sw/expandedes-5.jpg

..and remember that the ES stuff is sample accurate CV so you can use it for
envelopes/LFOs etc running at a resolution of 44,100hz!!

Very sexy stuff...

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ToAd [mailto:tom.adam at thebigear.be]
> Sent: 24 February 2015 17:21
> To: music-bar
> Subject: Need more inputs....
> 
> Hi guys,
> I want some more inputs on my DAW (windows).  Currently having 8
> inputs/outputs doesn't do it for me any more.
> I did some reading and came up with 2 options;
> 
> get me a couple of these boys
> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Behringer-ADA8200-8-Ch.-MicPre-
> und-AD/DA/art-REC0010391-000
> 
> and this audio interface
> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Computer/Audio-interfaces/RME-
> HDSPe-RayDAT-ADAT-PCI-Express-Card/art-PCM0007721-000#FullDetails
> 
> And add an USB fader box thing to use as 'mixing' console.
> 
> or
> buy me a couple of these mixing desks. (yes, space is a non issue for me)
> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Mackie-ONYX-1640I-Mixer/art-
> PAH0008837-000
> 
> I hate to go back to the behringer route for the ADA, but these are the
only
> ones I can afford. Nice thing for the ADAT route is that you have some
expert
> sleepers stuff that can be very interesting. On the other hand, the mixing
> desks I can use without the computer on, which increases my fun factor a
lot.
> 
> Any input appreciated. Maybe I missed an obvious solution...
> 
> Cheers,
> ToAd
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From peter at severity-one.com  Tue Feb 24 20:18:05 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:18:05 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <54EC9C58.4040309@upcmail.nl>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
 <54EC9C58.4040309@upcmail.nl>
Message-ID: <54ECCE6D.4010809@severity-one.com>

Gert van Santen schreef op 24-2-2015 om 16:44:

> Since I lost my last PC a couple of years back (it made me completely 
> crazy!), I'm using Windows 7 and 8 on Macbooks. Double boot 
> (Bootcamp). Since then, I never had any trouble at all with Windows. I 
> have to use Windows because of my speech to text program (Dragon) and 
> some of my dictionaries.

Can't you use a virtual machine for that? Or doesn't MacOS come with 
some sort of virtual machine? That would save you the trouble of having 
to reboot all the time.

- Peter

From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl  Tue Feb 24 20:31:56 2015
From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:31:56 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <54ECCE6D.4010809@severity-one.com>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
 <54EC9C58.4040309@upcmail.nl> <54ECCE6D.4010809@severity-one.com>
Message-ID: <54ECD1AC.1000905@upcmail.nl>

Peter Korsten schreef op 24-2-2015 om 20:18:
> Gert van Santen schreef op 24-2-2015 om 16:44:
>
>> Since I lost my last PC a couple of years back (it made me
>> completely crazy!), I'm using Windows 7 and 8 on Macbooks.
>> Double boot (Bootcamp). Since then, I never had any trouble at
>> all with Windows. I have to use Windows because of my speech to
>> text program (Dragon) and some of my dictionaries.
>
> Can't you use a virtual machine for that? Or doesn't MacOS come
> with some sort of virtual machine? That would save you the
> trouble of having to reboot all the time.

Yep, there's a couple of options, but I don't need them, since I 
only reboot for music work on OSX every once in a while these 
days. I've got my favourite software installed on both the Mac 
and the Windows partition, and that works quite well :-)

-- 
Gert

gert van santen
www.gertvansanten.nl

From deeplfo at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 20:34:59 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:34:59 -0800
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <54ECCE6D.4010809@severity-one.com>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
 <54EC9C58.4040309@upcmail.nl> <54ECCE6D.4010809@severity-one.com>
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi4-9Z7A96CYVa=QezEWQY+VMC8NytgiYiWAeWYnBp0yYw@mail.gmail.com>

No out of the box VM on the Mac. I bought VMware Fusion just so that I have
it, and it works fine for pretty much your run of the mill type of stuff,
but there are times where you need all of the hardware dedicated to Windows
(e.g. running MS FSX Flight Simulator :-) ), and Bootcamp is great for
that.

VMware Fusion is pretty cool though, and it's dirt cheap.

Mohsen

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>
wrote:

> Gert van Santen schreef op 24-2-2015 om 16:44:
>
>  Since I lost my last PC a couple of years back (it made me completely
>> crazy!), I'm using Windows 7 and 8 on Macbooks. Double boot (Bootcamp).
>> Since then, I never had any trouble at all with Windows. I have to use
>> Windows because of my speech to text program (Dragon) and some of my
>> dictionaries.
>>
>
> Can't you use a virtual machine for that? Or doesn't MacOS come with some
> sort of virtual machine? That would save you the trouble of having to
> reboot all the time.
>
> - Peter
> _______________________________________________
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> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Tue Feb 24 20:37:59 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:37:59 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <54ECCE6D.4010809@severity-one.com>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <8929CD41-7092-41AC-BFFF-B0855A5E120F@deadmengods.com>

I have my development environment (Win8.1, VS2013) in Parallels. A quite resource-heavy environment but there?s no problem at all running it virtually on my Mac, I?d say it?s hardly noticeable and definitely not compared to the trouble of booting every time I need to change OS :-)

/Micke

> On 24 feb 2015, at 20:18, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
> 
> Gert van Santen schreef op 24-2-2015 om 16:44:
> 
>> Since I lost my last PC a couple of years back (it made me completely crazy!), I'm using Windows 7 and 8 on Macbooks. Double boot (Bootcamp). Since then, I never had any trouble at all with Windows. I have to use Windows because of my speech to text program (Dragon) and some of my dictionaries.
> 
> Can't you use a virtual machine for that? Or doesn't MacOS come with some sort of virtual machine? That would save you the trouble of having to reboot all the time.
> 
> - Peter
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Tue Feb 24 20:34:34 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 19:34:34 -0000
Subject: RPM done
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G6joufRJ_Bkft3CfUoRtjXmKA0Umc439BsB2O6UVKUSPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Y59G6joufRJ_Bkft3CfUoRtjXmKA0Umc439BsB2O6UVKUSPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <104401d05068$eda4b640$c8ee22c0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

This is lovely, Andy..

 

Once again, so professional sounding..

 

Good one..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew at bml.co.uk] 
Sent: 23 February 2015 21:05
To: Music-bar
Subject: RPM done

 

This was a real struggle, but I'm entirely sure why. Turning this from 32 bar chord sequence in to an actual track proved really difficult, it kept wanting to go classical and cheesy. I tried to make it quite 80s Art of Noise Moments in Love,  but it fought back. At one point it was anti-dubstep - a hard, heavy slow 70bpm build leading up to a massive drop that didn't happen, but that made it something you'd listen to once then throw away. It ended up as something that doesn't really fit in any genre.

 

My Mac isn't well, Apple have diagnosed my increasingly regular crashes as a graphics card fault, and it's going to get a pair of new D300s in the morning, which is another reason this ended up sounding a bit odd, I was only able to work for about 20-30 minutes between hard resets.

 

Anyway, for what it's worth, here's "Quotes", stream at 

 

https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/lx-nen-quotes 

 

and high-res on the ftp site. I'm really looking forward to hearing everyone else's tracks - I've tried not to listen until I signed off on mine, but some popped up in my soundcloud feed already.

 

- Andy_R

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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Tue Feb 24 20:44:42 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 11:44:42 -0800
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <CAMbtJi4M7AveOzKb8vS0-m0zizw5A9OksYv2cF-O=hrmpx95QA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB405-EAS1891ED6D02B36F93906540BF5160@phx.gbl>
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Message-ID: <CAA7dtZJAk4Wm9MxsXDbyr_aTRsnXoj-wmzZzOuHKGj5Oi0d8zA@mail.gmail.com>

I've been a Mac/Linux user almost exclusively for at least a decade, and in
the last year made a Windows 8 machine my DAW.

I treat it entirely as an appliance. It only has audio software installed
on it, I don't install pirated software anymore and it's been super
reliable.
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From ronwest at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 20:48:29 2015
From: ronwest at gmail.com (Ron West)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:48:29 -0500
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAOEgy-LdPUWSksf8PfrBVTCQ=GmveZXar39VXvWbCTBbAdwFbA@mail.gmail.com>

> So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac.

Who are you and what have you done with Tony?

From tom.adam at thebigear.be  Tue Feb 24 21:01:15 2015
From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (ToAd)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:01:15 +0100
Subject: Need more inputs....
In-Reply-To: <100801d05066$37123210$a5369630$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <54ECB2E4.6040909@thebigear.be>
 <100801d05066$37123210$a5369630$@punkdisco.co.uk>
Message-ID: <54ECD88B.7010606@thebigear.be>

Thanks for the replies. I'll dig a little deeper into the ADAT subject.
Cheers,
ToAd
foRUMS 4 punkdISCO schreef op 24/02/2015 om 20:15:
> [ADAT interfaces - one of my favourite subjects!!]
>
> Hey ToAd
>
> I have two of those Behringer interfaces; the original ADA8000 and the newer
> ADA8200.  They are highly recommended by me and even Sound on Sound loves
> them!!  If money is an option, the older ADA8000 can be found for probably
> 100euro used..
>
>> and this audio interface
>>
> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Computer/Audio-interfaces/RME-HDSPe-RayDA
> T-ADAT-PCI-Express-Card/art-PCM0007721-000#FullDetails
>
> Wow, that looks a little expensive!!  Are there not cheaper ADAT cards?  Im
> still using an old Motu 424 pci setup along with two 2408mk which have
> 3xADAT each (2xADAT if you also use the 2408s analogue i/o [which most
> people would do]).  These Motu setups again are pretty cheap..
>
>> And add an USB fader box thing to use as 'mixing' console.
> I have not had mixer faders in my studio for probably 8 years and, don't
> miss them at all.  All I ever used a mixer for was to get the level to an
> optimum level for recording.
>
>> buy me a couple of these mixing desks. (yes, space is a non issue for me)
> For me its not just about space but rather, I love the convenience of ADAT
> interfaces.  You can plant them anywhere in your studio with a simple (and
> very inexpensive) ADAT optical cable.  Indeed, I have my 4 sets of 8 i/o in
> four different places, exactly where they are needed with no wiring
> nightmares.
>
>> Nice thing for the ADAT route is that you have some expert sleepers stuff
> that can be very interesting
>
> YEP!!!  I have the wonderful ES3 with a ES5 expander giving me 7CV and
> 8Gates all from a single ADAT.  This single ADAT is actually capable of
> running a whopping 54(!) channels of CV or Gate (in any combinations you
> choose).  This picture shows a fully expanded ES3 using a single ADAT:
>
> http://1lmm.com/pub1/sw/expandedes-5.jpg
>
> ..and remember that the ES stuff is sample accurate CV so you can use it for
> envelopes/LFOs etc running at a resolution of 44,100hz!!
>
> Very sexy stuff...
>
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: ToAd [mailto:tom.adam at thebigear.be]
>> Sent: 24 February 2015 17:21
>> To: music-bar
>> Subject: Need more inputs....
>>
>> Hi guys,
>> I want some more inputs on my DAW (windows).  Currently having 8
>> inputs/outputs doesn't do it for me any more.
>> I did some reading and came up with 2 options;
>>
>> get me a couple of these boys
>> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Behringer-ADA8200-8-Ch.-MicPre-
>> und-AD/DA/art-REC0010391-000
>>
>> and this audio interface
>> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Computer/Audio-interfaces/RME-
>> HDSPe-RayDAT-ADAT-PCI-Express-Card/art-PCM0007721-000#FullDetails
>>
>> And add an USB fader box thing to use as 'mixing' console.
>>
>> or
>> buy me a couple of these mixing desks. (yes, space is a non issue for me)
>> http://www.musicstore.de/nl_NL/NLG/Mackie-ONYX-1640I-Mixer/art-
>> PAH0008837-000
>>
>> I hate to go back to the behringer route for the ADA, but these are the
> only
>> ones I can afford. Nice thing for the ADAT route is that you have some
> expert
>> sleepers stuff that can be very interesting. On the other hand, the mixing
>> desks I can use without the computer on, which increases my fun factor a
> lot.
>> Any input appreciated. Maybe I missed an obvious solution...
>>
>> Cheers,
>> ToAd
>> _______________________________________________
>> music-bar mailing list
>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> _______________________________________________
> music-bar mailing list
> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar


From peter at severity-one.com  Tue Feb 24 21:22:08 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:22:08 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
Message-ID: <54ECDD70.9060902@severity-one.com>

Some of you may already have read this on Facebook, but last weekend I 
built my first Mini-ITX system.

Now, Mini-ITX is a motherboard standard, just like ATX and microATX. It 
uses the same back plate, fits in standard cases, but it only measures 
17x17 cm (6.7x6.7 inch). It's not the smallest form factor, but probably 
the smallest with such a large variety of manufacturers and feature sets.

This PC is specifically designed as a CCTV server, with IP-based 
security cameras connecting via a PoE (Power over Ethernet) network 
switch. So it needed decent processing power, plenty of memory and the 
capacity to add several hard discs. A second use is as a file server, 
and I plan to digitise all my CDs and store them on it, eventually.

Because it will be switched on 24/7, low power usage was a criterion, 
and also low noise. And I wanted a box that wasn't too big, yet still 
could house four to six 3.5" drives. That box I didn't get, yet, but 
that will be the next step. And these small boxes with many drive bays 
invariably require a Mini-ITX mainboard.

That mainboard is a Gigabyte affair -our third Gigabyte mainboard out of 
four PCs- and comes with an impressive array of connections. It has dual 
Gigabit Ethernet, WiFi (there's a non-Wifi version, but I couldn't find 
it anywhere), DVI, dual HDMI, six external USB (four of them USB3), six 
channel audio and an optical audio output. Internally it can connect six 
SATA drives. CPU socket is 1150, so you can put anything from a Celeron 
to a Core i7 in it.

For the CPU, I chose a 35W 3.2 GHz Intel Core i3 (4360T), which still 
has 2/3rds the performance of my ageing 3.2 GHz Core i7 960 (at 130W). 
The low profile CPU cooler is nearly silent, and together with the 8 GB 
memory, the mainboard with everything on it isn't any larger than the 
width and the height of the back plate.

The power supply is 300W (but scales down if you use less) and mostly 
silent, or at least very quiet. It's actually smaller than normal ATX 
power supplies. The boot drive is a 64 GB Sandisk SSD, and the data disc 
is a 2 TB "green" HDD that we had lying around.

The case is a crappy 15 year old beige mini tower. I think there was a 
Pentium 3 in it, which I threw away, because certain things are simply 
not worth keeping (and we already have several old mainboards collecting 
dust). It's destined to one day be replaced by a Fractal Design Core 
304, a nice minimalist Swedish design for a reasonable price.

Now, what does this have to do with music? Let me get to the point: the 
box is really, really quiet. In a quiet room, you can just about hear it 
when you're a foot and a half away. And with the right enclosure, it's 
really small, too. So if you're looking for a PC based DAW, it might be 
something to consider.

Now I'm installing Linux (CentOS) and ZoneMinder, obviously everything 
the hardcore way, from the command line. Hours of fun... :)

- Peter

From peter at severity-one.com  Tue Feb 24 21:27:57 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:27:57 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <CAOEgy-LdPUWSksf8PfrBVTCQ=GmveZXar39VXvWbCTBbAdwFbA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>
 <CAOEgy-LdPUWSksf8PfrBVTCQ=GmveZXar39VXvWbCTBbAdwFbA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54ECDECD.1010703@severity-one.com>

Ron West schreef op 24-2-2015 om 20:48:
>> So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac.
> Who are you and what have you done with Tony?

You mean Tony Scharf, the PC, anti-Apple and hardware synth guy? He's 
been replaced by a doppelg?nger ages ago. Have you ever seen "Invasion 
of the Body Snatchers"?

- Peter

From peter at severity-one.com  Tue Feb 24 21:31:29 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:31:29 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <DUB405-EAS1891ED6D02B36F93906540BF5160@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB405-EAS1891ED6D02B36F93906540BF5160@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <54ECDFA1.70504@severity-one.com>

random variate schreef op 24-2-2015 om 19:43:

> My self build i5 16gb RAM Windows7  DAW PC running Cubase 7.5 machine 
> is rock solid.
>
> Maybe your PC build was sketchy?

I find that a lot depends on the quality of your components, and then 
particularly the mainboard. Mine's a Supermicro, before that it was a 
Tyan, but these brands mostly focus on server boards these days.

My PCs have always been super stable. What causes crashes is mostly 
flaky drivers.

- Peter

From randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Feb 24 21:35:11 2015
From: randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk (random variate)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:35:11 +0000
Subject: Once you go Mac..
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS40274FF21ECD83F61326891F5160@phx.gbl>

Agreed. Compatibility of mainboard chipset and RAM is also a factor. And RAM timing etc.
________________________________
From: Peter Korsten<mailto:peter at severity-one.com>
Sent: ?24/?02/?2015 20:31
To: Music-bar<mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..

random variate schreef op 24-2-2015 om 19:43:

> My self build i5 16gb RAM Windows7  DAW PC running Cubase 7.5 machine
> is rock solid.
>
> Maybe your PC build was sketchy?

I find that a lot depends on the quality of your components, and then
particularly the mainboard. Mine's a Supermicro, before that it was a
Tyan, but these brands mostly focus on server boards these days.

My PCs have always been super stable. What causes crashes is mostly
flaky drivers.

- Peter
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From entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com  Tue Feb 24 21:39:04 2015
From: entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:39:04 -0600
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <54ECDECD.1010703@severity-one.com>
References: <BAY179-W40EF8AD578DD498688A073F3160@phx.gbl>,
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Is it so rare in our world that someone can change their opinion as new information presents itself that I get accused of being an alien invader?Seriously people...Produce, Obey, Consume,Tony
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:27:57 +0100
> From: peter at severity-one.com
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..
> 
> Ron West schreef op 24-2-2015 om 20:48:
> >> So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac.
> > Who are you and what have you done with Tony?
> 
> You mean Tony Scharf, the PC, anti-Apple and hardware synth guy? He's 
> been replaced by a doppelg?nger ages ago. Have you ever seen "Invasion 
> of the Body Snatchers"?
> 
> - Peter
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From randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Feb 24 21:55:17 2015
From: randomvariate at hotmail.co.uk (random variate)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 20:55:17 +0000
Subject: Once you go Mac..
Message-ID: <DUB405-EAS3577777D63031263C28107BF5160@phx.gbl>

Assimilate or be exterminated
________________________________
From: Tony Scharf<mailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com>
Sent: ?24/?02/?2015 20:39
To: Music-bar<mailto:music-bar at lists.music-bar.org>
Subject: RE: Once you go Mac..


Is it so rare in our world that someone can change their opinion as new information presents itself that I get accused of being an alien invader?Seriously people...Produce, Obey, Consume,Tony
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 21:27:57 +0100
> From: peter at severity-one.com
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..
>
> Ron West schreef op 24-2-2015 om 20:48:
> >> So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac.
> > Who are you and what have you done with Tony?
>
> You mean Tony Scharf, the PC, anti-Apple and hardware synth guy? He's
> been replaced by a doppelg?nger ages ago. Have you ever seen "Invasion
> of the Body Snatchers"?
>
> - Peter
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From deeplfo at gmail.com  Tue Feb 24 23:52:34 2015
From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo)
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 14:52:34 -0800
Subject: Omnisphere 2.0
Message-ID: <CAMbtJi4LFRFnAEd_juY0b1KoC49ZHJzZcYUUipx97RDLvYdFTg@mail.gmail.com>

It's coming :-)

https://www.spectrasonics.net/products/omnisphere-2/index.php


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From canine at waf80.de  Wed Feb 25 00:12:03 2015
From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:12:03 +1000
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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Sent from my phone

On 25.02.2015, at 02:11, Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> wrote:

> The only think with the adapter is I don?t think it can?t pass power, so if I hook up a bus powered lightning HDD to the adapter to a 800 port on a laptop it does not turn on, don?t know if it works the other way around.



Yes, that's the only downside, you need a psu for your audio interface. Not a big deal in the studio, but one more to drag around for live...!

From avarlinqui at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 25 07:00:26 2015
From: avarlinqui at hotmail.com (Marc Sims)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 06:00:26 +0000
Subject: Once you go Mac..
In-Reply-To: <D7B41563-0EE2-4BB5-8850-4C30384604BB@gmail.com>
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Am only now able to get the time to filter through yesterdays posts and am with Andy on the fusion drives although to the layman they're just called hybrid, when my original drive for my XPS failed after 2 years of heavy use I bought one as my main as I couldn't afford much at that time and went for a 700g Seagate hybrid that came with 16g of inbuilt SSD, after about 10 loads the speed increase was quite noticeable taking boots from 65secs to 45 ish.  Then after about a week stumbled upon a deal for some small but good and really cheap SSD's.  So I reinstalled everything again got the SSD as core boot stuff and installed a clever adaptor that turned the inbuilt DVD drive bay to a 2nd HDD bay for the hybrid.  Boots as you expect almost halved and the system is running sweet, coupled with an expansion 1Tb (spinning) drive velcro'd to the lid of the XPS for all my media, its a solid PC that's better and faster than the machine that came out've the box some 3 years ago.
 
I think with the Hybrids you get the best of both worlds, there's still a little bit of confusion re SSD's and they're maximum write capability which has always been a worry for me and all lappies nowadays appear to have the automatic parking accelerometer (I assume Apples have this too!) and so spinners are a lot less likely to fail.
 
As too changing to Apple, i'll leave that argument well alone and let the others give suggestions :D 
 
From: andrew at bml.co.uk
Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..
Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 17:09:05 +0000
To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org

Fusion drive is a great idea if you need to avoid external drives (ie you have a laptop) but I'm not sure they make sense otherwise. You're going to have lots of studio hardware anyway, so I'd add a cheap 4tb external and I'd go for at least 512gb ssd internal instead. In a few years when spinning disks are fully replaced by ssd, you can swap the 4tb over or relegate it to a sneaker net backup drive. This is my setup at the moment, I do everything on the ssd and archive to the external... I regret not getting a 1tb ssd, but then I do a lot of heavy video editing. If you plan on a dual boot with windows you might need 1tb too.
FireWire to lighting should be fine. 
The retina is something you might be kicking yourself about in a few years if you don't get it, with 4k being heavily pushed for consumer TVs soon, non retina capable machines will look dated in a couple of years imho... Plus you'll be able to edit 4k footage beautifully on the 5k screen - I don't know if this is a factor for you?

- Andy_R
On 24 Feb 2015, at 15:35, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:




So...my PC DAW died a sudden agonizing death. My data is secure and backed up, but it like looks like the mother board might be hosed. It's been acting up for a while, and the diagnostic I ran showed too many red lights to trust it with production going forward.So, I'm looking at getting my first Mac. This was the third PC I've had go bad not long out of warranty, and I'm looking to make a switch. My wife's MacBook has been wonderful for her, so I'm just going to suck it up and pay the apple tax.Right now I'm looking at an iMac 27 inch. Probably not a retina since it will shave some cost. I know to upgrade RAM myself. What should I do for storage? What's a fusion drive compared to a flash(I imagine that's Apple speak for SSD?).Also, how reliable are FireWire to Lightening adapters?  I'd rather not also have to upgrade my audio interface.  What does the bar suggest?  Tony 		 	   		  
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 10:54:09 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:54:09 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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> 
> Some of you may already have read this on Facebook, but last weekend I built my first Mini-ITX system.
> 


Nice work Peter - interesting to hear of your travails.  Just curious: why?d you go with CentOS?


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From ibisum at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 10:56:36 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:56:36 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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> On Feb 24, 2015, at 20:34, deeplfo <deeplfo at gmail.com> wrote:
> No out of the box VM on the Mac.

Its worth noting that Virtualbox runs pretty well on OSX and is a viable alternative if you don?t want to buy Parallels/VMWare.

(Though my personal preference currently is VMWare, but: this changes frequently.  Parallels and VMWare leap-frog each other, so I have both actually..)

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From ibisum at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 10:59:52 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:59:52 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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> On Feb 24, 2015, at 21:39, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:
> Is it so rare in our world that someone can change their opinion as new information presents itself that I get accused of being an alien invader?

I think its great that you?re going to be experiencing the Apple way of things .. are you budgeting to put new software on there too, or are you going to be giving Reaper a bit of a try?


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From peter at severity-one.com  Wed Feb 25 14:22:46 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:22:46 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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2015-02-25 10:54 GMT+01:00 ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com>:


> Nice work Peter - interesting to hear of your travails.  Just curious:
> why?d you go with CentOS?
>
>
Because I'm used to it from work -although we seem to be switching to
Oracle (Enterprise) Linux now- and because I don't need any bleeding edge
technology. This is purely going to be a server, with not even a local
display. (Unless I decide to hook up a screen to watch the security
cameras, but that's not really straightforward I think.)

And I like the way that 'yum' simply installs everything that you need,
after you've added a couple of repositories. Because I've had my share of
building from source, and I'm getting too old for it. And I like that Red
Hat maintain a steady release cycle based on stability rather than features.

Meanwhile, I've finished: the machine is happily serving web pages on one
network interface, and getting camera images from the other interface.
Still a lot needs to be done, like hardening the box, but the start is
there.

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From entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com  Wed Feb 25 15:49:05 2015
From: entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 08:49:05 -0600
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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Software won't be an issue.  I mainly run Ableton & Reason.  I don't really have any windows only plugs that I use.  Renoise is also cross platform.  And, yes, I also have reaper.  I haven't used it in a long while, though, since I've been mainly working in hardware and reason just makes a damn fine 'tape deck' with the way its audio tracks work.  
And while I am going Mac, I also budgeted in for a copy of Logic.  That will be interesting, as it was always my favorite DAW back when there was a windows version.  My dislike of Apple started when they acquired Emagic and killed it.  
Apple snuck it's way into my studio.   It started with an iPad I bought and then an Apple TV I got as a gift.  Then I got another Apple TV and an iPhone.  My wife got an iPhone and a MacBook and now I am completing their conquest of my digital life by swapping out the studio machine.  I have been amazed at how what I was trying to accomplish by building my own linux and windows based infrastructure in my home was basically out of the box functionality that required zero hours spent tweaking and futzing to make work.    I know some people like that, but my tweaking futzing years are long over.  Give me something that works. 

Tony
Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..
From: ibisum at gmail.com
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:59:52 +0100
To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org

 
> On Feb 24, 2015, at 21:39, Tony Scharf =
<entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:
> Is it so rare in our world that someone can change their opinion as =
new information presents itself that I get accused of being an alien =
invader?
 
I think its great that you=92re going to be experiencing the Apple way =
of things .. are you budgeting to put new software on there too, or are =
you going to be giving Reaper a bit of a try?
 
 
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:01:22 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:01:22 +0100
Subject: rpm 2015
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Nice track Nigel! Got some vibe of early 80's experimental synth tracks, think OMD :-)

Now, just keep the newfound spirit and keep em coming...

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 17 feb 2015 kl. 16:14 skrev Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net>:
> 
> https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet
> 
> done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:09:08 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:09:08 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Hey Romain,

Fab track as always, love the toned down dubstep-style bass.

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 21 feb 2015 kl. 18:00 skrev Rom MUSIC BAR <xtechcode at gmail.com>:
> 
> Hello Music-bar, 
> My friend Tom created a funny instrument that he named ? the Tupare? ?
> So we work a bit on  a song for RPM 2015 using this weird instrument and called the song ?the Tupare"? 
> 
> We hope we didn t miss the deadline for RPM 2015,  
> 
> and  that you guys will like it .. ( The Animal plants style) 
> 
> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav
> 
> 
> Romain 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 16 Feb 2015, at 20:12, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Andy
>>  
>> Ive never heard that track before and its ace!!  Probably one of the best cover versions I have ever heard..
>>  
>> Good post..
>>  
>> Paul
>> London
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>>  
>> From: Andrew Robinson [mailto:andrew at bml.co.uk] 
>> Sent: 16 February 2015 14:52
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
>>  
>> I always thought this was very 'punk disco'... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t33lsAv_bXA
>>  
>> - Andy_R
>>  
>> On 16 February 2015 at 14:43, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
>> Just do a burp sound to kick off the chorus or something similar :-)
>> 
>> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
>> 
>> > 16 feb 2015 kl. 15:25 skrev foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>:
>> >
>> > Unfortunately for me, trade union regulations within punkdisco prohibit me
>> > from ever singing within 100km of any designated punkdisco recording
>> > facility..
>> >
>> > Looks our track will have to be Leah..
>> >
>> > Paul
>> > London
>> > www.punkdisco.co.uk
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Joost Schuttelaar [mailto:joost at joostschuttelaar.nl]
>> >> Sent: 15 February 2015 19:23
>> >> To: Music-bar
>> >> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
>> >>
>> >>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 18:24, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I actually picked up a Shure PG48 super cheaply at a local store (25
>> > bucks!)
>> >> and am now regretting immensely suggesting this damn idea.
>> >>
>> >> Yeah, this is giving me a hard time as well :)
>> >>
>> >> WIP!
>> >>
>> >> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/js_clip.mp3 (no vocals)
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >>
>> >> Joost Schuttelaar
>> >> The Hague, NL
>> >>
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:15:25 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:15:25 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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The Recoil reference was spot on, very nicely produced. Like it!

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 21 feb 2015 kl. 19:59 skrev Kim Johnsson <johnssonkim at gmail.com>:
> 
> Hi guys!
> 
> I naturally didn?t get anything done (just an intro, and then I decided to start selling stuff...), but my brother did. I think he was on MB on and off sometime ago, so he might qualify :-) :
> 
> I uploaded it here: http://rpm14.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav
> 
> Now uploading it to: http://rpm15.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav :-)
> 
> Recoil comes to mind. Not a bad thing, that.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 	Kim
> 
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:24:42 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:24:42 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <0B013616-E3DE-4A65-B6E8-81E43E8815E0@joostschuttelaar.nl>
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Nice one, it gets really groovy in the second half. Eagerly awaiting the vocals, something jamiroquayesque would fit nicely :-)

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 21 feb 2015 kl. 20:08 skrev Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>:
> 
> WIP, needs vocals and many many refinements?
> 
> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/dancerobotdance3.mp3
> 
> -- 
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> 
>> On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:17, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:
>> 
>> will upload a wip soon again...
> 
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:33:14 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:33:14 +0100
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <06dd01d04ee1$00e5e960$02b1bc20$@punkdisco.co.uk>
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Very raw and punkdISCO = nice track as usual. You always manage to get a enchanting/suggestive rhythm that's magnified tenfold live :)

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 22 feb 2015 kl. 21:49 skrev foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk>:
> 
> Finally finished our RPM track ?2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)?:
>  
> https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/2-zero-1-5-rpm
>  
> Not my vocals but Leah is one of us so Im hoping that is still allowed..  J
>  
> Kit List:
> Roland TB3 (main detuned acid synth)
> Korg 770 (blips)
> SE1X (bass x2)
> Airbase
>  
> How do I upload the WAV to http://rpm15.music-bar.org ??
>  
> Feels good to finish a track!
>  
> Ta,
>  
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 18:36:57 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:36:57 +0100
Subject: Track: 2 Zero 1 5 (RPM)
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZLZhu4HwH+LG9AcT95SQvYgA=80Br-MBs1F0izoVaHAkQ@mail.gmail.com>
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 + 1 :)

> A Drug Against War

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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:39:30 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:39:30 +0100
Subject: jam result for rpm
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Well, when jamming is this good it doesn't matter, nice one!

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 23 feb 2015 kl. 22:01 skrev ToAd <tom.adam at thebigear.be>:
> 
> Modular, TM-3030, DIY drum machine, JD990 and voice.
> The problem is, when doing stuff with the terminal wedgies and PJ, we usually never get any further than jamming...
> 
> foRUMS 4 punkdISCO schreef op 23/02/2015 om 21:43:
>> Fab track dude!!  Wish I could sound this good just jamming!
>> 
>> What gear you used?
>> 
>> Paul
>> London
>> www.punkdisco.co.uk
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: ToAd [mailto:tom.adam at thebigear.be]
>>> Sent: 23 February 2015 19:02
>>> To: Music-bar
>>> Subject: jam result for rpm
>>> 
>>> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/Unreal%20-
>>> %20Terminal%20Wedgies%20vs%20PJ%20Markovic.wav
>>> 
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 18:41:47 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:41:47 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
In-Reply-To: <0b5401d04faa$a6abdca0$f40395e0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
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Thank you Paul I m very glad you like it  !!!!! :)

Pro ? I don t know ?. all I know is that I won t make much progress without music bar 
:) 



Romain 




On 23 Feb 2015, at 21:52, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO <forums at punkdisco.co.uk> wrote:

> That's wonderful Romain..  I could hear that on a movie -it sounds really
> pro.. (and made me smile)
> 
> Paul
> London
> www.punkdisco.co.uk
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Rom MUSIC BAR [mailto:xtechcode at gmail.com]
>> Sent: 21 February 2015 17:29
>> To: Music-bar
>> Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015
>> 
>> Thank you Joost, :)
>> 
>> This link is more appropriate I guess  :)
>> 
>> http://rpm15.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav
>> 
>> When is exactly the deadline before the mastering ? ( I may want to change
>> some few stuff .  )
>> 
>> Did you add some voice to your song ? :P
>> 
>> 
>> Romain
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 21 Feb 2015, at 18:18, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>> http://rpm14.music-bar.org/The_Tupare_the%20Animal_plants.wav
>>> 
>>> 
>>> loving it, very ethereal!
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Joost Schuttelaar
>>> The Hague, NL
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:43:29 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:43:29 +0100
Subject: RPM done
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G6joufRJ_Bkft3CfUoRtjXmKA0Umc439BsB2O6UVKUSPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Y59G6joufRJ_Bkft3CfUoRtjXmKA0Umc439BsB2O6UVKUSPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <83A36FB8-95FA-44BC-8806-071F8A376E3A@deadmengods.com>

Lovely track Andy, perfect way to end my train-home-rpm-track-sweep :-)

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 23 feb 2015 kl. 22:05 skrev Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk>:
> 
> This was a real struggle, but I'm entirely sure why. Turning this from 32 bar chord sequence in to an actual track proved really difficult, it kept wanting to go classical and cheesy. I tried to make it quite 80s Art of Noise Moments in Love,  but it fought back. At one point it was anti-dubstep - a hard, heavy slow 70bpm build leading up to a massive drop that didn't happen, but that made it something you'd listen to once then throw away. It ended up as something that doesn't really fit in any genre.
> 
> My Mac isn't well, Apple have diagnosed my increasingly regular crashes as a graphics card fault, and it's going to get a pair of new D300s in the morning, which is another reason this ended up sounding a bit odd, I was only able to work for about 20-30 minutes between hard resets.
> 
> Anyway, for what it's worth, here's "Quotes", stream at 
> 
> https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/lx-nen-quotes 
> 
> and high-res on the ftp site. I'm really looking forward to hearing everyone else's tracks - I've tried not to listen until I signed off on mine, but some popped up in my soundcloud feed already.
> 
> - Andy_R
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 18:46:56 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:46:56 +0100
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Unfortunately I won't make the cut, still have the drums, vocals and mixing to do so it will pop out later...

Sent from Mikaels cellular device

> 15 feb 2015 kl. 22:51 skrev Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>:
> 
>> On 15 Feb 2015, at 20:55, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com> wrote:
>> 
>> http://deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_rpm15.mp3
> 
> Sounding good? the challenge fits the track perfectly ;)
> 
> -- 
> 
> Joost Schuttelaar
> The Hague, NL
> 
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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 18:51:24 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:51:24 +0100
Subject: RPM done
In-Reply-To: <CA+Y59G6joufRJ_Bkft3CfUoRtjXmKA0Umc439BsB2O6UVKUSPg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CA+Y59G6joufRJ_Bkft3CfUoRtjXmKA0Umc439BsB2O6UVKUSPg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9D8963B9-AC3F-444A-9049-E713B1A591F1@gmail.com>

Love it, every music make me thing of some other music ?
your song makes me think of Eric Serra composer ( specially the movie : le grand bleu )

:)
Romain 




On 23 Feb 2015, at 22:05, Andrew Robinson <andrew at bml.co.uk> wrote:

> This was a real struggle, but I'm entirely sure why. Turning this from 32 bar chord sequence in to an actual track proved really difficult, it kept wanting to go classical and cheesy. I tried to make it quite 80s Art of Noise Moments in Love,  but it fought back. At one point it was anti-dubstep - a hard, heavy slow 70bpm build leading up to a massive drop that didn't happen, but that made it something you'd listen to once then throw away. It ended up as something that doesn't really fit in any genre.
> 
> My Mac isn't well, Apple have diagnosed my increasingly regular crashes as a graphics card fault, and it's going to get a pair of new D300s in the morning, which is another reason this ended up sounding a bit odd, I was only able to work for about 20-30 minutes between hard resets.
> 
> Anyway, for what it's worth, here's "Quotes", stream at 
> 
> https://soundcloud.com/lx-nen/lx-nen-quotes 
> 
> and high-res on the ftp site. I'm really looking forward to hearing everyone else's tracks - I've tried not to listen until I signed off on mine, but some popped up in my soundcloud feed already.
> 
> - Andy_R
> _______________________________________________
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:11:40 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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> Apple snuck it's way into my studio.   It started with an iPad I bought and then an Apple TV I got as a gift.  Then I got another Apple TV and an iPhone.  My wife got an iPhone and a MacBook and now I am completing their conquest of my digital life by swapping out the studio machine.  I have been amazed at how what I was trying to accomplish by building my own linux and windows based infrastructure in my home was basically out of the box functionality that required zero hours spent tweaking and futzing to make work.    I know some people like that, but my tweaking futzing years are long over.  Give me something that works.


UbuntuStudio is plug and play, for what its worth, and comes absolutely loaded to the gills with tons of great plugins and software.  Just as a reference - not that it matters any more.  I use Reaper on my MBP as a portable DAW (recording at the bands place), but my main DAW at home is UbuntuStudio, Ardour 3.1.  Its beautiful how smoothly it works.  Definitely competitive with Mac OSX in terms of out of the box experience, but you have to know enough to start with Ubuntu Studio in the first place ..

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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Wed Feb 25 19:13:27 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:13:27 -0800
Subject: rpm 2015
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thanks Mikael, OMD is quite the compliment :)

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 9:01 AM, Mikael Hansson <forums at deadmengods.com>
wrote:

> Nice track Nigel! Got some vibe of early 80's experimental synth tracks,
> think OMD :-)
>
> Now, just keep the newfound spirit and keep em coming...
>
> Sent from Mikaels cellular device
>
> 17 feb 2015 kl. 16:14 skrev Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net>:
>
> https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet
>
> done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....
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From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:17:35 -0800
Subject: Once you go mini...
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 5:22 AM, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>
wrote:

> 2015-02-25 10:54 GMT+01:00 ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com>:
>
>
>> Nice work Peter - interesting to hear of your travails.  Just curious:
>> why?d you go with CentOS?
>>
>>
> Because I'm used to it from work -although we seem to be switching to
> Oracle (Enterprise) Linux now- and because I don't need any bleeding edge
> technology. This is purely going to be a server, with not even a local
> display. (Unless I decide to hook up a screen to watch the security
> cameras, but that's not really straightforward I think.)
>

As someone who was a Debian fanboy for a very long time, I actually think
Red Hat are the ones who are advancing the state of Linux in the most
meaningful way right now.

FWIW I deal with a lot of customers/users who've switched from RHEL/CentOS
to OEL, and it's not without pain. It's a hell of a lot cheaper, but it has
this frustrating uncanny valley aspect compared to RHEL.

This might be because I'm strongly on the systemd side of the Great Init
Wars of 2014/2015...



> And I like the way that 'yum' simply installs everything that you need,
> after you've added a couple of repositories. Because I've had my share of
> building from source, and I'm getting too old for it. And I like that Red
> Hat maintain a steady release cycle based on stability rather than features.
>

Yep, and they do this far better than Ubuntu do with LTS releases.


>
> Meanwhile, I've finished: the machine is happily serving web pages on one
> network interface, and getting camera images from the other interface.
> Still a lot needs to be done, like hardening the box, but the start is
> there.
>

You should Puppetize it :)



>
>
> - Peter
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:34:05 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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> On Feb 25, 2015, at 19:17, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net> wrote:
> As someone who was a Debian fanboy for a very long time, I actually think Red Hat are the ones who are advancing the state of Linux in the most meaningful way right now.

I think the Linux Mint folks are doing a better job, but honestly I haven?t paid enough attention to what RH are doing.  What are RH doing?


> 
> This might be because I'm strongly on the systemd side of the Great Init Wars of 2014/2015?


Obvious troll is obvious!

> 
> Yep, and they do this far better than Ubuntu do with LTS releases.

Not my experience, but then I run my apt-get updates religiously, whereas most people do not.


> You should Puppetize it :)


Not gonna do it, but its so *cough* ansible *cough* tempting ..

:)

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From forums at deadmengods.com  Wed Feb 25 19:45:00 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 19:45:00 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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Talking about switching platform, I have recently switched to running Cubase in 64-bit mode (mac). Only two plugins, which I can manage without, are stuck iwithout 64-bit support. Don?t know if it makes any difference though? :-)

/Micke

> On 25 feb 2015, at 15:49, Tony Scharf <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:
> 
> Software won't be an issue.  I mainly run Ableton & Reason.  I don't really have any windows only plugs that I use.  Renoise is also cross platform.  And, yes, I also have reaper.  I haven't used it in a long while, though, since I've been mainly working in hardware and reason just makes a damn fine 'tape deck' with the way its audio tracks work.  
> 
> And while I am going Mac, I also budgeted in for a copy of Logic.  That will be interesting, as it was always my favorite DAW back when there was a windows version.  My dislike of Apple started when they acquired Emagic and killed it.  
> 
> Apple snuck it's way into my studio.   It started with an iPad I bought and then an Apple TV I got as a gift.  Then I got another Apple TV and an iPhone.  My wife got an iPhone and a MacBook and now I am completing their conquest of my digital life by swapping out the studio machine.  I have been amazed at how what I was trying to accomplish by building my own linux and windows based infrastructure in my home was basically out of the box functionality that required zero hours spent tweaking and futzing to make work.    I know some people like that, but my tweaking futzing years are long over.  Give me something that works. 
> 
> 
> Tony
> 
> Subject: Re: Once you go Mac..
> From: ibisum at gmail.com
> Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:59:52 +0100
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> 
>  
> > On Feb 24, 2015, at 21:39, Tony Scharf =
> <entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com> wrote:
> > Is it so rare in our world that someone can change their opinion as =
> new information presents itself that I get accused of being an alien =
> invader?
>  
> I think its great that you=92re going to be experiencing the Apple way =
> of things .. are you budgeting to put new software on there too, or are =
> you going to be giving Reaper a bit of a try?
>  
>  
> ;
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 10:46:22 -0800
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:34 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > On Feb 25, 2015, at 19:17, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net>
> wrote:
> > As someone who was a Debian fanboy for a very long time, I actually
> think Red Hat are the ones who are advancing the state of Linux in the most
> meaningful way right now.
>
> I think the Linux Mint folks are doing a better job, but honestly I
> haven?t paid enough attention to what RH are doing.  What are RH doing?
>

systemd to start with :)

Here's a good overview of the kind of stuff I'm talking about:

http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html

What do you think Mint is doing a better job at? It's basically a different
release process of Debian/Ubuntu, with different opinions around including
proprietary software.

They do work in userland, but other than Cinnamon, I don't see anything
they've done that substantially pushes Linux forward.


>
> > This might be because I'm strongly on the systemd side of the Great Init
> Wars of 2014/2015?
>
>
> Obvious troll is obvious!
>

I'm genuinely not trolling, although I realize it looks just like I am :) I
think systemd is exactly the right kind of disruptive change that needs to
happen to Linux, particularly in the world of



>
> >
> > Yep, and they do this far better than Ubuntu do with LTS releases.
>
> Not my experience, but then I run my apt-get updates religiously, whereas
> most people do not.
>

As a desktop OS only it's not as bad, but Ubuntu Server LTS has many
issues.


>
>
> > You should Puppetize it :)
>
>
> Not gonna do it, but its so *cough* ansible *cough* tempting ..
>
>
For one or two machines, sure, and for orchestration sure. Not for actual
config management :)

(For those who don't know, I work at Puppet Labs :) )
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Wed Feb 25 20:27:38 2015
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 11:27:38 -0800
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net>
wrote:

>
>
> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 10:34 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> > On Feb 25, 2015, at 19:17, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net>
>> wrote:
>> > As someone who was a Debian fanboy for a very long time, I actually
>> think Red Hat are the ones who are advancing the state of Linux in the most
>> meaningful way right now.
>>
>> I think the Linux Mint folks are doing a better job, but honestly I
>> haven?t paid enough attention to what RH are doing.  What are RH doing?
>>
>
> systemd to start with :)
>
> Here's a good overview of the kind of stuff I'm talking about:
>
> http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
>
> What do you think Mint is doing a better job at? It's basically a
> different release process of Debian/Ubuntu, with different opinions around
> including proprietary software.
>
> They do work in userland, but other than Cinnamon, I don't see anything
> they've done that substantially pushes Linux forward.
>
>
> >
>> > This might be because I'm strongly on the systemd side of the Great
>> Init Wars of 2014/2015?
>>
>>
>> Obvious troll is obvious!
>>
>
> I'm genuinely not trolling, although I realize it looks just like I am :)
> I think systemd is exactly the right kind of disruptive change that needs
> to happen to Linux, particularly in the world of
>

(completing) in the world of containers, microservices and much more
dynamic infrastructure.
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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 20:34:19 +0100
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> 
> http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
> 

This kills the Unix.

http://ewontfix.com/14/



> What do you think Mint is doing a better job at?


Making an out-of-the-box distro that ?just works? upon installation without much tweaking, yet still continues to offer all the power and privilege that a modern Linux distribution has to offer.

I dunno, I?m not seeing much more that RH does though.  Perhaps its time I booted CentOS and all the other RedHat Things, and had a closer look.


> It's basically a different release process of Debian/Ubuntu, with different opinions around including proprietary software.
> 

I guess if you don?t like Debian/Ubuntu, its a moot argument.


> They do work in userland, but other than Cinnamon, I don't see anything they've done that substantially pushes Linux forward.

Cinnamon is no small thing!  But I think you?re into the ?rewrite all the inits? stage of this argument, which I haven?t quite agreed is a necessity at this point. systemd is flawed from the outset.  Putting all that crap into init1?  Fuck, its just not cricket, man ..


> I'm genuinely not trolling, although I realize it looks just like I am :) I think systemd is exactly the right kind of disruptive change that needs to happen to Linux, particularly in the world of


If by disruptive you mean ?introduces countless headaches for anyone who has admin?ed a Linux system up to this point, is not at all secure even in the slightest bit, and doesn?t actually *add* features but rather takes them away?, I guess you have a point.


> 
> As a desktop OS only it's not as bad, but Ubuntu Server LTS has many issues.


Okay, on this I think you have a fair and valid point, but then I don?t think that server problems should be solved by distributions, a technique which only makes sense with desktops (imho), but rather the server install problem should be solved by competent individual server administrators - who are given good tools to solve this problem..  Tools like RancherOS, which is too new school I admit, but still, RancherOS is everything a good server distribution should be: absolutely bare-bones enough to run Docker containers, and thats *it*.  That is to say, I don?t think ?collective distribution maintained by the mob? is the right way to approach server-distribution politics.  Well, maybe my mind isn?t settled yet, but I?d love to know what is a ?good server OS? out of all the distro?s out there - besides RancherOS, that is ..

> 
> For one or two machines, sure, and for orchestration sure. Not for actual config management :)


Why can?t you do CM with Ansible, but you can with Puppet?  Oh, I know .. because client-server.  Yuck!  YUCK!  BTW, doesn?t scale.  Oh wait, yes it does: if you put your manifests in git and then checkout with ssh on all/multiples-of the recipients, but then you?ve just re-invented Ansible and may as well just use it, coz YAML and stuff.

/ducks


> (For those who don't know, I work at Puppet Labs :) )


You?re the freakin? Puppet God, we know it.  :)


And I?m really only baiting you into explaining all the things I don?t know about Puppet because I?ve been using Ansible for the last year and therefore haven?t caught up with how super-duper Puppet has become, lately .. I?m prepared to be enlightened, but probably I should just go watch a hipstercast on the subject and get my ass kicked into the 21st Century, somehow.  Because ?python all the things?, right?



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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:34 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> >
> http://0pointer.net/blog/revisiting-how-we-put-together-linux-systems.html
> >
>
> This kills the Unix.
>
> http://ewontfix.com/14/


We've hit a local optimization with Linux IMHO. We need disruptive changes
that are going to cause pain in the short term to actually get to somewhere
significantly better.

Are you a PulseAudio hater too now? (ignoring the botched releases *Ubuntu*
made at first which is where most people's dislike of PulseAudio comes from)

His points about how companies use Linux for appliance development are
totally spot on. As someone who's been working for the last year or two
with all of the network vendors who are transitioning from proprietary OSes
to Linux/BSD distributions, there's an enormous world of pain out there.


> What do you think Mint is doing a better job at?
>
>
> Making an out-of-the-box distro that ?just works? upon installation
> without much tweaking, yet still continues to offer all the power and
> privilege that a modern Linux distribution has to offer.
>

That's fair, but that's just incremental change and paying attention to
constructing good defaults. It's not to be sneezed at, but it's not pushing
the state of the art forward.

At least Ubuntu have tried to invent a bunch of useful technology, even if
it's mostly failed in the wider ecosystem. cloud-init is the only thing I
can think of that has actually gotten traction anywhere else, and there's a
much longer list of failures like bazaar, JuJu, AppArmor etc.


I dunno, I?m not seeing much more that RH does though.  Perhaps its time I
> booted CentOS and all the other RedHat Things, and had a closer look.
>
>
> > It's basically a different release process of Debian/Ubuntu, with
> different opinions around including proprietary software.
> >
>
> I guess if you don?t like Debian/Ubuntu, its a moot argument.
>

I *love* Debian. It's my first love (at least out of distros that still
exist), and I think it's absolutely critically important that we continue
to have strong distributions that don't have corporate interests at heart
first. (See also: web browsers :/)


> They do work in userland, but other than Cinnamon, I don't see anything
> they've done that substantially pushes Linux forward.
>
> Cinnamon is no small thing!  But I think you?re into the ?rewrite all the
> inits? stage of this argument, which I haven?t quite agreed is a necessity
> at this point. systemd is flawed from the outset.  Putting all that crap
> into init1?  Fuck, its just not cricket, man ..
>

Do you have the same complaints around launchd and think OS X is
fundamentally flawed? Did you live through the SystemStarter -> launchd
transition? We're seeing *exactly* the same story play out here, just as we
did with Solaris and SMF.

> I'm genuinely not trolling, although I realize it looks just like I am :)
> I think systemd is exactly the right kind of disruptive change that needs
> to happen to Linux, particularly in the world of
>
>
> If by disruptive you mean ?introduces countless headaches for anyone who
> has admin?ed a Linux system up to this point, is not at all secure even in
> the slightest bit, and doesn?t actually *add* features but rather takes
> them away?, I guess you have a point.
>

Pure hyperbole :)


>
> > As a desktop OS only it's not as bad, but Ubuntu Server LTS has many
> issues.
>
>
> Okay, on this I think you have a fair and valid point, but then I don?t
> think that server problems should be solved by distributions, a technique
> which only makes sense with desktops (imho), but rather the server install
> problem should be solved by competent individual server administrators -
> who are given good tools to solve this problem..  Tools like RancherOS,
> which is too new school I admit, but still, RancherOS is everything a good
> server distribution should be: absolutely bare-bones enough to run Docker
> containers, and thats *it*.  That is to say, I don?t think ?collective
> distribution maintained by the mob? is the right way to approach
> server-distribution politics.  Well, maybe my mind isn?t settled yet, but
> I?d love to know what is a ?good server OS? out of all the distro?s out
> there - besides RancherOS, that is ..
>

I think "good server OS" is insufficiently specified to actually come up
with an answer. Are you running large enterprise monolithic apps? in-house
developed apps? microservices? Deploying a PaaS? internal cloud? hybrid
cloud? The right answer changes depending upon what you're actually doing
with those servers.

This rapidly changing world is why distros need to care about server
problems and you can't just solve it all with tooling.



>
> >
> > For one or two machines, sure, and for orchestration sure. Not for
> actual config management :)
>
>
> Why can?t you do CM with Ansible, but you can with Puppet?  Oh, I know ..
> because client-server.  Yuck!  YUCK!  BTW, doesn?t scale.  Oh wait, yes it
> does: if you put your manifests in git and then checkout with ssh on
> all/multiples-of the recipients, but then you?ve just re-invented Ansible
> and may as well just use it, coz YAML and stuff.
>

No, it's much more that shell scripts are a poor way to do idempotent
configuration management as soon as scale matters at all, either scale of
people or scale of systems.

Also YAML is bad enough without trying to shoe-horn a programming language
into it :) I thought we learnt that lesson with XML!

It's got nothing to do with client-server. You don't have to run a server
with Puppet, you can do everything locally.


And I?m really only baiting you into explaining all the things I don?t know
> about Puppet because I?ve been using Ansible for the last year and
> therefore haven?t caught up with how super-duper Puppet has become, lately
> .. I?m prepared to be enlightened, but probably I should just go watch a
> hipstercast on the subject and get my ass kicked into the 21st Century,
> somehow.  Because ?python all the things?, right?
>
>
I think Ansible is really quite excellent at solving a certain kind of
problem, but it has huge issues scaling, is a shitty way to represent
state, and completely fails at providing any reasonable auditing of history.

I'm always happy to argue around this space, but I suspect we're pretty far
off course for the music bar :)
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From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:09:56 +0100
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> 
> Are you a PulseAudio hater too now? (ignoring the botched releases *Ubuntu* made at first which is where most people's dislike of PulseAudio comes from)
> 


Yes.  I absolutely despise PulseAudio with a major passion and have excised it completely from existence on all of my machines.  *VERY* prescient of you! :)

Jackd all the things, with a little ALSA bridge where needed, or GTFO.



> His points about how companies use Linux for appliance development are totally spot on. As someone who's been working for the last year or two with all of the network vendors who are transitioning from proprietary OSes to Linux/BSD distributions, there's an enormous world of pain out there.
> 

Definitely agree with you about pain.  But don?t you think its deserved, though?


> 
> At least Ubuntu have tried to invent a bunch of useful technology, even if it's mostly failed in the wider ecosystem. cloud-init is the only thing I can think of that has actually gotten traction anywhere else, and there's a much longer list of failures like bazaar, JuJu, AppArmor etc.


Don?t get me wrong - I hate Unity like I hate Pulseaudio too.  Thank god for choice!  Oh wait, we don?t have that with systemd any more .. no choice but to follow the herd on this one.


> I *love* Debian. It's my first love (at least out of distros that still exist), and I think it's absolutely critically important that we continue to have strong distributions that don't have corporate interests at heart first. (See also: web browsers :/)

Haha, Julian Assanges? ?Debian is pwned by the NSA? statement notwithstanding, right .. ;)


> Do you have the same complaints around launchd and think OS X is fundamentally flawed? Did you live through the SystemStarter -> launchd transition? We're seeing *exactly* the same story play out here, just as we did with Solaris and SMF.


Yeah, in fact its precisely because of launchd that I hate systemd so much.


> 
> If by disruptive you mean ?introduces countless headaches for anyone who has admin?ed a Linux system up to this point, is not at all secure even in the slightest bit, and doesn?t actually *add* features but rather takes them away?, I guess you have a point.
> 
> Pure hyperbole :)


tail?able ?-follow=name?able log files?  Not hyperbole!  Can?t add my own scripts?  Not hyperbole.  Don?t actually *want* to run cron/Do actually *want* to run a crond?  NOT HYPERBOLE MAN!



> I think "good server OS" is insufficiently specified to actually come up with an answer. Are you running large enterprise monolithic apps? in-house developed apps? microservices? Deploying a PaaS? internal cloud? hybrid cloud? The right answer changes depending upon what you're actually doing with those servers.
> 

Yes to all of the above: which don?t actually work any more - because: systemd.  Haha!  :)



> I'm always happy to argue around this space, but I suspect we're pretty far off course for the music bar :)


Its Peter K?s fault, he tried to convince me to check out CentOS.  :P


Anyway, you are very insightful and I?ll be checking my privilege a little more aggressively in the near future.  Now GET OFF MY LAWN!



;
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From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 21:23:59 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:23:59 -0500
Subject: Need more inputs....
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You should get this
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP <http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP>

:D

> On Feb 24, 2015, at 3:01 PM, ToAd <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the replies. I'll dig a little deeper into the ADAT subject.
> Cheers,
> ToAd
> foRUMS 4 punkdISCO schreef op 24/02/2015 om 20:15:

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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Wed Feb 25 21:50:22 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 12:50:22 -0800
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trimming and responding selectively :)

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:09 PM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> > I *love* Debian. It's my first love (at least out of distros that still
> exist), and I think it's absolutely critically important that we continue
> to have strong distributions that don't have corporate interests at heart
> first. (See also: web browsers :/)
>
> Haha, Julian Assanges? ?Debian is pwned by the NSA? statement
> notwithstanding, right .. ;)
>

Yeah I still use SIM cards too :(

https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2015/02/19/great-sim-heist/

> Do you have the same complaints around launchd and think OS X is
> fundamentally flawed? Did you live through the SystemStarter -> launchd
> transition? We're seeing *exactly* the same story play out here, just as we
> did with Solaris and SMF.
>
>
> Yeah, in fact its precisely because of launchd that I hate systemd so much.
>

So I find this really interesting. I believe launchd (and SMF) have been
overwhelming successes, and many of the things that make OS X awesome are
enabled by moving away from the static and explicit dependencies of
SystemStarter to the dynamic world of launchd.

I don't see developers or admins complain about launchd anymore at all.

Why do you hate launchd?
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From peter at severity-one.com  Wed Feb 25 22:28:27 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:28:27 +0100
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Nigel Kersten schreef op 25-2-2015 om 19:46:

> (For those who don't know, I work at Puppet Labs :) )

Ah, cool. We (=Vodafone) have a corporate policy to absolutely save on 
operational expenditure, so ~$100/seat/year is not going to fly.

So I think it's indeed going to be Ansible, which will be part of my 
next project, which I'll start once I've dealt with all the operational 
problems (80% of our Indian development team have buggered off, for 
starters). Obviously, this project would solve many of the operational 
problems, but I don't have time to start it because of all the 
operational problems. Right...

- Peter

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From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
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ibi sum schreef op 25-2-2015 om 20:34:

> Making an out-of-the-box distro that ?just works? upon installation without much tweaking, yet still continues to offer all the power and privilege that a modern Linux distribution has to offer.

What other than a kernel, /bin/sh and a package installation system do 
you need for things to work? Mind, I'm a server kind of guy when it 
comes to Unix. I've used it for the desktop, but it's just not worth it.

- Peter

From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Wed Feb 25 22:31:37 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>
wrote:

> Nigel Kersten schreef op 25-2-2015 om 19:46:
>
>  (For those who don't know, I work at Puppet Labs :) )
>>
>
> Ah, cool. We (=Vodafone) have a corporate policy to absolutely save on
> operational expenditure, so ~$100/seat/year is not going to fly.
>
> So I think it's indeed going to be Ansible, which will be part of my next
> project, which I'll start once I've dealt with all the operational problems
> (80% of our Indian development team have buggered off, for starters).
> Obviously, this project would solve many of the operational problems, but I
> don't have time to start it because of all the operational problems.
> Right...
>
>
FWIW Ansible, Salt, Puppet and Chef all come in completely free open-source
packages as well as commercially supported variants.  Think RHEL/CentOS.

I'd also point out that several divisions of your company have already
bought Puppet Enterprise :) We're part of that project to save on
operational expenditure :)
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Wed Feb 25 22:35:01 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
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> So I find this really interesting. I believe launchd (and SMF) have been overwhelming successes, and many of the things that make OS X awesome are enabled by moving away from the static and explicit dependencies of SystemStarter to the dynamic world of launchd.
> I don't see developers or admins complain about launchd anymore at all.

How many OSX servers are out there?  Compared to (?still using sysvinit-* scripts?) Linux systems?  I know of *one* person who runs OSX server live on the Internet, compared to 10?s of 1000?s of people who are doing it otherwise.

You don?t see complaints because nobody is trying to do it to the same extent that Linux-based servers.

> Why do you hate launchd?

Because its no longer self-documenting.  You have to dig deep into launch.plist files to try to understand anything, many of which are not documented, and of which you have no real control/understanding until you grok some non-existent/hard-to-find documentation that *might* tell you what some of the keys mean, or may not, or some of the values, or may not.

The beauty of the sysvinit-*/rc* approach was that it was all self-documented.  You just had to read the script to understand what it was doing, and that was all.  And I think that is the crux of the hatred for systemd/launchd.  systemd is an attempt to make administering a Linux machine more esoteric, more elite and more ?exclusive? to those who ?do not hate systemd enough to understand it well?, which will be a much smaller set of people than those who can actually read sysvinit-* scripts, because they?re written in the same language that is supported and used throughout the rest of the system.

systemd is a power grab by a self-elected elite, a true and real cabal, and thats why the hate.  I think your arguments for it are also aligned along this axis in many ways - systemd will create a new walled garden into which Linux sysadmins will be corralled, weaned and neutered.  Gone are the days when anyone can understand the arcane mechanics of system boot-time configuration by just reading the code that does the work .. now, there will need to be training courses, and new books written, and new CM tools marketed to the masses ..

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From peter at severity-one.com  Wed Feb 25 22:35:30 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
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ibi sum schreef op 25-2-2015 om 21:09:

> Its Peter K?s fault, he tried to convince me to check out CentOS.  :P

Whoa, hang on a second! I did no such thing! I may be married and 
therefore used to getting blamed for everything, including tremors on 
Mars, but I was merely speaking about a small, cute, quiet PC, perhaps 
useful as a DAW, which you two turned into a Linus pissing contest. ;)

- Peter

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> On Feb 25, 2015, at 22:35, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
> Whoa, hang on a second! I did no such thing! I may be married and therefore used to getting blamed for everything, including tremors on Mars, but I was merely speaking about a small, cute, quiet PC, perhaps useful as a DAW, which you two turned into a Linus pissing contest. ;)


You did convince me to check out CentOS though, and its not a pissing contest so much as a chance to have Nigel Kersten all to myself (mostly) to discuss this thorny subject without 80% of the Internet mobbing me thereafter!  :)


(Seriously though, glad to hear you got your miniPC set up and running .. very nice to hear.  FWIW, I did something similar with a spare rPi, which is alive and on the ?net and functioning just grand, and which makes me feel like its 1995, and the Teklab server is sitting on a 56k ISDN line, all over again..)


;
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From avarlinqui at hotmail.com  Wed Feb 25 22:45:27 2015
From: avarlinqui at hotmail.com (Marc Sims)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 21:45:27 +0000
Subject: Wow Finished RPM
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As the title says wow I've actually managed a track.  
 
Its a little generic but surprisingly not the 15 min epic I usually end up with and before anyone asks I did use my own vocals / noises in the track, I just turned them into a hi hat and perc track :D
 
All done on Ableton 9 live using various plugins and stuff and APC 80 CM
 
https://soundcloud.com/bollocks-to-this/a-l-t-ext-mix
 		 	   		  
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Wed Feb 25 22:49:30 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:49:30 -0800
Subject: Once you go mini...
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:35 PM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> > So I find this really interesting. I believe launchd (and SMF) have been
> overwhelming successes, and many of the things that make OS X awesome are
> enabled by moving away from the static and explicit dependencies of
> SystemStarter to the dynamic world of launchd.
> > I don't see developers or admins complain about launchd anymore at all.
>
> How many OSX servers are out there?  Compared to (?still using sysvinit-*
> scripts?) Linux systems?  I know of *one* person who runs OSX server live
> on the Internet, compared to 10?s of 1000?s of people who are doing it
> otherwise.
>
> You don?t see complaints because nobody is trying to do it to the same
> extent that Linux-based servers.
>

launchd is a key enabler of what makes OS X a good *client* OS, and I do
believe the same kind of dynamism is needed in the modern era for servers.

OS X Server is so tiny it's not even worth talking about as a topic IMHO.


>
> > Why do you hate launchd?
>
> Because its no longer self-documenting.  You have to dig deep into
> launch.plist files to try to understand anything, many of which are not
> documented, and of which you have no real control/understanding until you
> grok some non-existent/hard-to-find documentation that *might* tell you
> what some of the keys mean, or may not, or some of the values, or may not.
>

SystemStarter was plists too! Your argument here might hold against
sysvinit -> systemd, but it doesn't hold for SystemStarter -> launchd at
all.

The StartupItem format was just as obscure as launchd.


>
> The beauty of the sysvinit-*/rc* approach was that it was all
> self-documented.  You just had to read the script to understand what it was
> doing, and that was all.  And I think that is the crux of the hatred for
> systemd/launchd.  systemd is an attempt to make administering a Linux
> machine more esoteric, more elite and more ?exclusive? to those who ?do not
> hate systemd enough to understand it well?, which will be a much smaller
> set of people than those who can actually read sysvinit-* scripts, because
> they?re written in the same language that is supported and used throughout
> the rest of the system.
>

Well this is a clear agree-to-disagree point :) Many SysV init scripts
passed the point of clear self-documentation a long time ago.


>
> systemd is a power grab by a self-elected elite, a true and real cabal,
> and thats why the hate.  I think your arguments for it are also aligned
> along this axis in many ways - systemd will create a new walled garden into
> which Linux sysadmins will be corralled, weaned and neutered.  Gone are the
> days when anyone can understand the arcane mechanics of system boot-time
> configuration by just reading the code that does the work .. now, there
> will need to be training courses, and new books written, and new CM tools
> marketed to the masses ..
>
>
Oh man, that's totally not where I'm coming from personally, and I think
you've completely misdiagnosed the situation.

systemd actually reduces the required surface area of tools like the one
that pays my bills right now. If my main impetus was marketing software to
the masses I'd be arguing heavily *against* systemd.

I'm just not in that sort of evangelism phase with any technology at all
right now.

I'm growing increasingly disenchanted with the entire tech industry and my
ability to shift the needle via my company in any meaningful sense, and
seriously considering just working out how to retire to a farm full of
synthesizers with a river nearby.

If anything I ever say on this list looks like I'm shilling, that's never
my intent, and it's something I'd hate to even accidentally do.
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From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Wed Feb 25 22:51:44 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:51:44 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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Interesting thread. One of our developers is very much against systemd for similar reasons as Jay. Me, as a casual Linux (server) user, have no strong preference. I find, just run a bunch of scripts to boot/control your state elegant (it?s a very simple model, easy to inspect), but also pretty rudimentary (dependencies between services, parallelising things).

This line I found interesting:

> Okay, on this I think you have a fair and valid point, but then I don?t think that server problems should be solved by distributions, a technique which only makes sense with desktops (imho), but rather the server install problem should be solved by competent individual server administrators - who are given good tools to solve this problem..

I don?t consider myself a competent sysadmin, but I am the one who does admin our servers (right now, at our scale). And I think I should be capable of doing this.

This is why we chose to base our server-side stuff of commodity, run-of-the-mill, software like nginx, php, mysql, sqlite etc?

I do think it?s appropriate that for launching a new server I grab a Ubuntu 14.04LTS release, run a few apt-get commands, do an rsync to deploy and edit some config files. And then trust the distro to keep packages up-to-date.

Cheers,

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL

From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Wed Feb 25 22:54:00 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 22:54:00 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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> On 25 Feb 2015, at 22:49, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net> wrote:
> 
> If anything I ever say on this list looks like I'm shilling, that's never my intent, and it's something I'd hate to even accidentally do.

Nope :) cool to know we have a Puppeteer in the house though!

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Wed Feb 25 22:56:41 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 13:56:41 -0800
Subject: Once you go mini...
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 1:51 PM, Joost Schuttelaar <
joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote:

> Interesting thread. One of our developers is very much against systemd for
> similar reasons as Jay. Me, as a casual Linux (server) user, have no strong
> preference. I find, just run a bunch of scripts to boot/control your state
> elegant (it?s a very simple model, easy to inspect), but also pretty
> rudimentary (dependencies between services, parallelising things).
>


If anyone really wants to dig into this in detail in a reasonably
dispassionate way, I can pull up some of the amazing summaries by Russ
Albery on the Debian Technical Committee decision to move to systemd. Russ
is one of the truly good people in the Linux space, is incredibly
thoughtful, and was the perfect person to help navigate such a politically
charged issue.


>
> This line I found interesting:
>
> > Okay, on this I think you have a fair and valid point, but then I don?t
> think that server problems should be solved by distributions, a technique
> which only makes sense with desktops (imho), but rather the server install
> problem should be solved by competent individual server administrators -
> who are given good tools to solve this problem..
>
> I don?t consider myself a competent sysadmin, but I am the one who does
> admin our servers (right now, at our scale). And I think I should be
> capable of doing this.
>
> This is why we chose to base our server-side stuff of commodity,
> run-of-the-mill, software like nginx, php, mysql, sqlite etc?
>
> I do think it?s appropriate that for launching a new server I grab a
> Ubuntu 14.04LTS release, run a few apt-get commands, do an rsync to deploy
> and edit some config files. And then trust the distro to keep packages
> up-to-date.
>
>
I'm honestly going to be shocked and horrified if that sort of use case
doesn't work perfectly fine regardless of whether you're using a distro
that's taken on systemd or not.

As you mention, trust in the distro's ability to release packages of good
quality and minimal surprise is key, and that's going to vastly outweigh
the impact of systemd vs non-systemd.
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From peter at severity-one.com  Wed Feb 25 23:02:29 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:02:29 +0100
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Nigel Kersten schreef op 25-2-2015 om 22:31:

> FWIW Ansible, Salt, Puppet and Chef all come in completely free 
> open-source packages as well as commercially supported variants.  
> Think RHEL/CentOS.

Well, not exactly. CentOS is basically RHEL compiled from source, 
whereas the difference between the free and paid editions of Puppet, 
Chef etc. is the feature set (and support). I'd already determined that 
some of that feature set we'd need. Active Directory comes to mind.

The issue is not the cost as such (we've paid a tidy sum to your 
compatriots of Atlassian, and let's not go about what we're paying 
Accenture), but the fact that it's a yearly cost. CapEx is good, OpEx is 
bad.

> I'd also point out that several divisions of your company have already 
> bought Puppet Enterprise :) We're part of that project to save on 
> operational expenditure :)

But those usually have considerably more customers than around 
250,000... we at Vodafone Malta are somewhat size challenged.

Also, a VERY important consideration is that my wage is an operational 
expenditure, too, and is being paid from the same money as the yearly 
licenses. :)

- Peter

- Peter

From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Wed Feb 25 23:05:53 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
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> On 25 Feb 2015, at 22:56, Nigel Kersten <nigel at explanatorygap.net> wrote:
> 
> As you mention, trust in the distro's ability to release packages of good quality and minimal surprise is key, and that's going to vastly outweigh the impact of systemd vs non-systemd.

Yeah, so I have to say that I basically pick my distro on these factors: price (free), how broadly supported is it (that leaves debian/ubuntu/fedora/centos), version of packages in the stable repo?s. That?s it. Systemd plays no role for me.

H5mag currently runs CentOS. Will be Ubuntu in the near future.

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Wed Feb 25 23:09:25 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:09:25 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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> On 25 Feb 2015, at 23:02, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
> 
> CapEx is good, OpEx is bad.

Hmm, would you say this is universal at larger companies? What about all these cloud solutions which means a move to periodical pricing?

Wow we?re going off-topic, let me open business-bar at lists.music-bar.org ;)

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL


From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Wed Feb 25 23:11:49 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 14:11:49 -0800
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>
wrote:

>
> Also, a VERY important consideration is that my wage is an operational
> expenditure, too, and is being paid from the same money as the yearly
> licenses. :)
>

Free Software all the way then :)
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ibi sum schreef op 25-2-2015 om 22:38:

> Seriously though, glad to hear you got your miniPC set up and running .. very nice to hear.

Google is your friend.

One thing I've realised is that I'm pretty good at finding things via 
the internet. Google has been pretty much indispensable in that. Case in 
point: I found my wife via the internet, although that was using ICQ. 
That one model train that went out of production 10 years ago? I'll find 
it, and for a nice price, too.

So I take my 20+ years experience with Unix, even though I'm mostly an 
analyst/developer, and look up what I need to know - and nothing more. I 
don't know how all the init scripts work on the various Linux editions, 
and I don't care either.

This way of working has served me well. With this particular box, the 
challenge lay in dealing with two network interfaces, using DHCP both as 
a client and a server, and proxying using Apache to the Zyxel router 
(still not working, they have some serious issues with content type and 
such) and the cameras. I've set up Apache as a reverse proxy before, but 
I still look it up via Google, because it's easier than having to 
remember it. And I may run into something interesting I hadn't seen before.

You could say that Google has become part of my memory, including the 
things that I have yet to remember.

The challenge is now to harden this Linux box. I had to switch off 
SElinux and iptables completely, even though I couldn't find any reason 
why the latter would not take requests on port 80.

- Peter

From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl  Wed Feb 25 23:35:02 2015
From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:35:02 +0100
Subject: Wow Finished RPM
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> On 25 Feb 2015, at 22:45, Marc Sims <avarlinqui at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> https://soundcloud.com/bollocks-to-this/a-l-t-ext-mix

Nice ?n smooth!

-- 

Joost Schuttelaar
The Hague, NL



From peter at severity-one.com  Wed Feb 25 23:44:28 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:44:28 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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Joost Schuttelaar schreef op 25-2-2015 om 23:09:

>> On 25 Feb 2015, at 23:02, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
>>
>> CapEx is good, OpEx is bad.
> Hmm, would you say this is universal at larger companies? What about all these cloud solutions which means a move to periodical pricing?

I'd say this is universal at publicly owned companies. In the end, it's 
the same money that you're spending. (And it's money that you took from 
your customers, so you have to be as careful with it as politicians are 
with money they take from taxpayers... er... never mind.)

Our owners are the shareholders. And shareholders like investments, to a 
certain extent, and they don't like costs. Because investments add value 
to the business, whereas costs detract from it, and this reflects 
directly in the value of their portfolio.

This leads to the situation that we buy JIRA and Confluence with one 
year extra support, but we won't pay for a yearly support subscription - 
if needs be, we buy new licences.

Does that make sense? Depends on how you look at it.

About clouds, I also think that our particular company (Vodafone Malta) 
has not jumped on the bandwagon where everything that is not considered 
core business gets outsourced. We used to have our own cleaners; that is 
now outsourced. Some of our systems are running abroad (Milan and 
D?sseldorf), but that's more of a consolidation within Vodafone.

At some point, it was decided that development was non-core, and would 
be outsourced, provided it made economic sense. It made economic sense 
for all local companies, with the exception of Albania, Egypt and Malta. 
Albania and Egypt have since outsources as well. We, Malta, have 
off-shored it to Vodafone India. There are advantages there, but it's an 
incredibly competitive job market over there. But the point is that 
we're on-boarding development again.

When it comes to cloud services, we'd sooner offer those than use them. 
Practically all our servers are VMs there days, using a SAN. I doubt 
that anybody local would offer the computing and database power that we 
need, and internationally it would take bandwidth off our undersea 
cable, which is a core asset.

It really boils down to the question: what is your corporate identity? 
Are you a marketing firm? Are you a technology firm? Maybe something 
else? People high up realised that, as a mobile phone provider, we are a 
technology firm, and as such you have to be conservative with when 
outsourcing technology.

A "good" example of this are the Dutch railways, who at some point 
decided that their core business is moving people, and that actual 
hard-core technical knowledge about trains is something that is 
non-core, and can be left to consultants. I'm sure you read the papers, 
and the fiasco of the V250 train (more popularly known as the Fyra) has 
this as one of its reasons.

> Wow we?re going off-topic, let me open business-bar at lists.music-bar.org ;)

Based in London, no doubt. :)

- Peter

From peter at severity-one.com  Wed Feb 25 23:55:29 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 23:55:29 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
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Nigel Kersten schreef op 25-2-2015 om 23:11:

> On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com 
> <mailto:peter at severity-one.com>> wrote:
>
>     Also, a VERY important consideration is that my wage is an
>     operational expenditure, too, and is being paid from the same
>     money as the yearly licenses. :)
>
>
> Free Software all the way then :)

Actually, I'm very much for "buy what you can, build what you must".

We actually spend a serious amount of money on software, like Oracle. I 
would choose Oracle over MySQL and PostgreSQL any day, especially if I 
don't have to set it up and maintain it. Heck, I've written complete 
applications in PL/SQL.

I've heard rough figures of what we're paying Accenture to implement 
Siebel and middleware, and let's just say that it's a good thing we're a 
profitable company.

But buy, not rent, software, though I understand that your product 
doesn't lend itself well to one-off payments, not if you want to remain 
in business.

- Peter

From peter at severity-one.com  Thu Feb 26 00:00:15 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:00:15 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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Tony Scharf schreef op 24-2-2015 om 21:39:
>
> Is it so rare in our world that someone can change their opinion as 
> new information presents itself that I get accused of being an alien 
> invader?
>
> Seriously people...

The funny thing is that this is the second time that someone (perhaps 
also Ron) asked the exact same question, possibly when you converted 
from hardware to software synths.

I mean, next thing you know you'll be supporting Toronto or Vancouver. :)

- Peter

From peter at severity-one.com  Thu Feb 26 00:02:54 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:02:54 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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Marc Sims schreef op 25-2-2015 om 07:00:

>  [...], there's still a little bit of confusion re SSD's and they're 
> maximum write capability which has always been a worry for me [...]

No drive lives forever. Spinning drives will break down as well, given 
enough time. It hasn't stopped me changing all boot drives to SSD. Just 
make sure you leave plenty of empty space.

- Peter

From peter at severity-one.com  Thu Feb 26 00:09:52 2015
From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 00:09:52 +0100
Subject: Once you go Mac..
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Tony Scharf schreef op 25-2-2015 om 15:49:
> Apple snuck it's way into my studio.   It started with an iPad I 
> bought and then an Apple TV I got as a gift.  Then I got another Apple 
> TV and an iPhone.  My wife got an iPhone and a MacBook and now I am 
> completing their conquest of my digital life by swapping out the 
> studio machine.  I have been amazed at how what I was trying to 
> accomplish by building my own linux and windows based infrastructure 
> in my home was basically out of the box functionality that required 
> zero hours spent tweaking and futzing to make work.    I know some 
> people like that, but my tweaking futzing years are long over.  Give 
> me something that works.

Buy what you can, build what you must. There's something to be said for 
both approaches: there's no way I could have built my CCTV/file server 
for the same amount (I'm guessing at least a factor three), and raw 
power is far greater, too. I'm willing to invest some time in that.

But if you can buy certain functionality, and if you can afford it, 
there's no point in spending countless hours setting something up, 
unless you get some sort of satisfaction out of it.

- Peter

From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Thu Feb 26 00:44:11 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2015 15:44:11 -0800
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 2:44 PM, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com>
wrote:

> Joost Schuttelaar schreef op 25-2-2015 om 23:09:
>
>  On 25 Feb 2015, at 23:02, Peter Korsten <peter at severity-one.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> CapEx is good, OpEx is bad.
>>>
>> Hmm, would you say this is universal at larger companies? What about all
>> these cloud solutions which means a move to periodical pricing?
>>
>
> I'd say this is universal at publicly owned companies. In the end, it's
> the same money that you're spending. (And it's money that you took from
> your customers, so you have to be as careful with it as politicians are
> with money they take from taxpayers... er... never mind.)
>


This is really interesting as I've been seeing a distinct trend towards the
opposite over the last few years in publicly traded companies in the US,
particularly for anything greenfield, and this isn't just coming from
companies that already drank the managed-service-provider kool-aid.

Failed projects with a pure OpEx component can be switched off and that's
the end of your financial pain.



>
> Our owners are the shareholders. And shareholders like investments, to a
> certain extent, and they don't like costs. Because investments add value to
> the business, whereas costs detract from it, and this reflects directly in
> the value of their portfolio.
>
> This leads to the situation that we buy JIRA and Confluence with one year
> extra support, but we won't pay for a yearly support subscription - if
> needs be, we buy new licences.
>
> Does that make sense? Depends on how you look at it.
>

It totally makes sense, but I think there's a difference between the US and
the rest of the world in this regard.

Our US and Australian customers are tilting hard towards pure cloud and
OpEx, whereas our European and Asian customers grow to a certain point and
then pull their cloud services on-premise into their own data centers and
focus heavily on CapEx.

Growing distrust of US-based cloud services certainly isn't helping, but
I'm not sure it's a major factor.

Do you think that Vodafone being an MSP themselves changes perspective
internally?



>
> About clouds, I also think that our particular company (Vodafone Malta)
> has not jumped on the bandwagon where everything that is not considered
> core business gets outsourced. We used to have our own cleaners; that is
> now outsourced. Some of our systems are running abroad (Milan and
> D?sseldorf), but that's more of a consolidation within Vodafone.
>
> At some point, it was decided that development was non-core, and would be
> outsourced, provided it made economic sense. It made economic sense for all
> local companies, with the exception of Albania, Egypt and Malta. Albania
> and Egypt have since outsources as well. We, Malta, have off-shored it to
> Vodafone India. There are advantages there, but it's an incredibly
> competitive job market over there. But the point is that we're on-boarding
> development again.
>
> When it comes to cloud services, we'd sooner offer those than use them.
> Practically all our servers are VMs there days, using a SAN. I doubt that
> anybody local would offer the computing and database power that we need,
> and internationally it would take bandwidth off our undersea cable, which
> is a core asset.
>
> It really boils down to the question: what is your corporate identity? Are
> you a marketing firm? Are you a technology firm? Maybe something else?
> People high up realised that, as a mobile phone provider, we are a
> technology firm, and as such you have to be conservative with when
> outsourcing technology.
>
> A "good" example of this are the Dutch railways, who at some point decided
> that their core business is moving people, and that actual hard-core
> technical knowledge about trains is something that is non-core, and can be
> left to consultants. I'm sure you read the papers, and the fiasco of the
> V250 train (more popularly known as the Fyra) has this as one of its
> reasons.


That story is so wonderfully representative of a certain kind of terrible
misstep :)


>
>
>  Wow we?re going off-topic, let me open business-bar at lists.music-bar.org
>> ;)
>>
>
> Based in London, no doubt. :)
>
> - Peter
>
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> 
> If anything I ever say on this list looks like I'm shilling, that's never my intent, and it's something I'd hate to even accidentally do.
> 

I?ve taken the thread off-list so that Nigel and I can continue to discuss this highly interesting (to me) subject without any sort of stigma .. I do actually really value your opinion Nigel, so .. sorry .. didn?t mean to imply that you were shilling.  See you in the private conversation ..


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From xtechcode at gmail.com  Thu Feb 26 11:29:16 2015
From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:29:16 +0100
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I like your final result :) 

Romain 




On 23 Feb 2015, at 22:01, ToAd <tom.adam at thebigear.be> wrote:

> Modular, TM-3030, DIY drum machine, JD990 and voice.
> The problem is, when doing stuff with the terminal wedgies and PJ, we usually never get any further than jamming...

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From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:32:41 +0100
Subject: rpm 2015
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This would be perfect for Music-bar' Ambient radio station :)

Romain 




On 17 Feb 2015, at 16:14, Nigel Kersten <nigel at 4trak.net> wrote:

> https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/buffuplet
> 
> done. atmospheric sounds were vocals originally....
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Well done Marc ! :)
Romain 




On 25 Feb 2015, at 22:45, Marc Sims <avarlinqui at hotmail.com> wrote:

> As the title says wow I've actually managed a track.  
>  
> Its a little generic but surprisingly not the 15 min epic I usually end up with and before anyone asks I did use my own vocals / noises in the track, I just turned them into a hi hat and perc track :D
>  
> All done on Ableton 9 live using various plugins and stuff and APC 80 CM
>  
> https://soundcloud.com/bollocks-to-this/a-l-t-ext-mix
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From tom.adam at thebigear.be  Thu Feb 26 13:05:41 2015
From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (tom.adam at thebigear.be)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:05:41 GMT
Subject: Need more inputs....
In-Reply-To: <0EFCB709-23DE-4E43-AB84-7BC8C858201E@gmail.com>
References: <0EFCB709-23DE-4E43-AB84-7BC8C858201E@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1424952341489.120323.15140@webmail7>

True, that looks cool until you see the price tag.
;-)


Am 25. Februar 2015, hat Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> geschrieben:
> You should get this
> <http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP>
> 
> :D
> 
> > On Feb 24, 2015, at 3:01 PM, ToAd <<tom.adam at thebigear.be>> wrote:
> > Thanks for the replies. I'll dig a little deeper into the ADAT subject.
> > Cheers,
> > ToAd
> > foRUMS 4 punkdISCO schreef op 24/02/2015 om 20:15:
> > 
> 
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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Thu Feb 26 17:38:07 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 08:38:07 -0800
Subject: Once you go mini...
In-Reply-To: <BCC2A12A-BF04-404B-A413-C1BBAB63E797@gmail.com>
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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 11:20 PM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> >
> > If anything I ever say on this list looks like I'm shilling, that's
> never my intent, and it's something I'd hate to even accidentally do.
> >
>
> I?ve taken the thread off-list so that Nigel and I can continue to discuss
> this highly interesting (to me) subject without any sort of stigma .. I do
> actually really value your opinion Nigel, so .. sorry .. didn?t mean to
> imply that you were shilling.  See you in the private conversation ..
>

Man, it's fine. There's just a time and a place to evangelize, and this
isn't it :)
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Thu Feb 26 17:53:36 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 17:53:36 +0100
Subject: Once you go mini...
In-Reply-To: <CAA7dtZJQuEEAEK=vqWrM39MKL9mHf-g7_myayrUUmo7410nASw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <54ECDD70.9060902@severity-one.com>
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> Man, it's fine. There's just a time and a place to evangelize, and this isn't it :)

I?ve really enjoyed watching your rise to fame and fortune at PuppetLabs over the years and I?m sure its going to be fun to see what you get up to next .. and with so few opportunities for intelligent discussion about systemd, it was hard not to take the bait. ;)



;
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ibisum at gmail.com

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From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Thu Feb 26 18:13:46 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:13:46 -0500
Subject: 500 Series
Message-ID: <5521F784-8A3A-486A-A722-B275CBFF702A@gmail.com>

Anyone actually thought of diving into 500 series processors? Or have you already? Was looking at the Neve stuff, like a Portico 50xx type as front end to run instruments through when recording to my DAW. Then stumbled and took a closer look at the 500 series system, which up until now I just know as the tiny rack thingies that Moog makes a filter for and are on fancy producers desks :) 

Would be kinda cool to have say a real SSL channel on a recording input to my computer ;P

I think I have officially run off the deep end.


> On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:05 AM, tom.adam at thebigear.be wrote:
> 
> True, that looks cool until you see the price tag. 
> ;-)
> 
> Am 25. Februar 2015, hat Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> geschrieben:
> 
>> You should get this
>> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP <http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP>
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From entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com  Thu Feb 26 18:34:36 2015
From: entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com (Tony Scharf)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 11:34:36 -0600
Subject: 500 Series
In-Reply-To: <5521F784-8A3A-486A-A722-B275CBFF702A@gmail.com>
References: <5521F784-8A3A-486A-A722-B275CBFF702A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY179-W8569A4B6402486A36C630BF3140@phx.gbl>

I've seriously thought about it.   It would be a way to build an audio system and get whatever I want.  Kind of like modular for mixing.
Tony 

From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com
Subject: 500 Series
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:13:46 -0500
To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org

Anyone actually thought of diving into 500 series processors? Or have you already? Was looking at the Neve stuff, like a Portico 50xx type as front end to run instruments through when recording to my DAW. Then stumbled and took a closer look at the 500 series system, which up until now I just know as the tiny rack thingies that Moog makes a filter for and are on fancy producers desks :) 
Would be kinda cool to have say a real SSL channel on a recording input to my computer ;P
I think I have officially run off the deep end.

On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:05 AM, tom.adam at thebigear.be wrote:True, that looks cool until you see the price tag. 
;-)

Am 25. Februar 2015, hat Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> geschrieben:
You should get thishttp://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP
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From forums at deadmengods.com  Thu Feb 26 20:15:33 2015
From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson)
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 20:15:33 +0100
Subject: Experimental jam...
Message-ID: <ECB11D74-4A5B-4D94-818C-F24EDD74D8BD@deadmengods.com>

Some noise I put together this evening :-)

https://soundcloud.com/deadmengods/real-simulated-woodgrain <https://soundcloud.com/deadmengods/real-simulated-woodgrain>

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From tom.adam at thebigear.be  Fri Feb 27 08:37:20 2015
From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (tom.adam at thebigear.be)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 08:37:20 +0100
Subject: 500 Series
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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Fri Feb 27 20:27:33 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 19:27:33 -0000
Subject: Let's Do RPM 2015
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Hey Kim (being a bit slow to respond).

 

That suffocated track is wonderful.  Once again, incredibly pro sounding..

 

Paul

London

www.punkdisco.co.uk

 

From: Kim Johnsson [mailto:johnssonkim at gmail.com] 
Sent: 21 February 2015 19:00
To: Music-bar
Subject: Re: Let's Do RPM 2015

 

Hi guys!

 

I naturally didn?t get anything done (just an intro, and then I decided to start selling stuff...), but my brother did. I think he was on MB on and off sometime ago, so he might qualify :-) :

 

I uploaded it here: http://rpm14.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav

 

Now uploading it to: http://rpm15.music-bar.org/SuffocatedChain_Breathe.wav :-)

 

Recoil comes to mind. Not a bad thing, that.

 

Cheers,

 

          Kim

 

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From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com  Fri Feb 27 20:30:55 2015
From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian)
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:30:55 -0500
Subject: 500 Series
In-Reply-To: <20150227073720.20533403.60521.3314@thebigear.be>
References: <5521F784-8A3A-486A-A722-B275CBFF702A@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <34A0E88C-D99D-43CE-AF41-C5C1A09ABE41@gmail.com>

Yea very pricy, I guess at this level of quality and niche market you can't get away from $$$. Then if you want stereo... But the marketing keeps reminding me that these are cheap in comparison to the original versions...

This one is quite cool. Hardware emulation of hardware, it's got a tape head!
http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/542



Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2015, at 2:37 AM, tom.adam at thebigear.be wrote:
> 
> I've built a few diy EQ's ? recently, they sound awesom. But Finding some of the parts was hell. Also pricy, btw.
> 
> Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
> Van: Tony Scharf
> Verzonden: Thursday 26 February 2015 18:34
> Aan: Music-bar
> Beantwoorden: Music-bar
> Onderwerp: RE: 500 Series
> 
> I've seriously thought about it.   It would be a way to build an audio system and get whatever I want.  Kind of like modular for mixing.
> 
> Tony 
> 
> From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com
> Subject: 500 Series
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:13:46 -0500
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> 
> Anyone actually thought of diving into 500 series processors? Or have you already? Was looking at the Neve stuff, like a Portico 50xx type as front end to run instruments through when recording to my DAW. Then stumbled and took a closer look at the 500 series system, which up until now I just know as the tiny rack thingies that Moog makes a filter for and are on fancy producers desks :) 
> 
> Would be kinda cool to have say a real SSL channel on a recording input to my computer ;P
> 
> I think I have officially run off the deep end.
> 
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:05 AM, tom.adam at thebigear.be wrote:
> 
> True, that looks cool until you see the price tag. 
> ;-)
> 
> Am 25. Februar 2015, hat Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> geschrieben:
> You should get this
> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP
> 
> _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From canine at waf80.de  Sat Feb 28 11:05:50 2015
From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:05:50 +1000
Subject: 500 Series
In-Reply-To: <20150227073720.20533403.60521.3314@thebigear.be>
References: <5521F784-8A3A-486A-A722-B275CBFF702A@gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <6C3D925F-94FE-4497-824C-DB538D2C4AF7@waf80.de>

That sounds very interesting. What did you build and what plans did you use for it?

Also: thank you Andy for turning me on to the 500 standard...;)

Sent from my phone

On 27.02.2015, at 17:37, tom.adam at thebigear.be wrote:

> I've built a few diy EQ's ? recently, they sound awesom. But Finding some of the parts was hell. Also pricy, btw.
> 
> Verzonden vanaf mijn BlackBerry 10-smartphone.
> Van: Tony Scharf
> Verzonden: Thursday 26 February 2015 18:34
> Aan: Music-bar
> Beantwoorden: Music-bar
> Onderwerp: RE: 500 Series
> 
> I've seriously thought about it.   It would be a way to build an audio system and get whatever I want.  Kind of like modular for mixing.
> 
> Tony 
> 
> From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com
> Subject: 500 Series
> Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 12:13:46 -0500
> To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org
> 
> Anyone actually thought of diving into 500 series processors? Or have you already? Was looking at the Neve stuff, like a Portico 50xx type as front end to run instruments through when recording to my DAW. Then stumbled and took a closer look at the 500 series system, which up until now I just know as the tiny rack thingies that Moog makes a filter for and are on fancy producers desks :) 
> 
> Would be kinda cool to have say a real SSL channel on a recording input to my computer ;P
> 
> I think I have officially run off the deep end.
> 
> 
> On Feb 26, 2015, at 7:05 AM, tom.adam at thebigear.be wrote:
> 
> True, that looks cool until you see the price tag. 
> ;-)
> 
> Am 25. Februar 2015, hat Andrew Tarpinian <andrewtarpinian at gmail.com> geschrieben:
> You should get this
> http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/5060CP
> 
> _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From tom.adam at thebigear.be  Sat Feb 28 13:57:32 2015
From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (tom.adam at thebigear.be)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 13:57:32 +0100
Subject: 500 Series
In-Reply-To: <6C3D925F-94FE-4497-824C-DB538D2C4AF7@waf80.de>
References: <5521F784-8A3A-486A-A722-B275CBFF702A@gmail.com>
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From ibisum at gmail.com  Sat Feb 28 20:42:54 2015
From: ibisum at gmail.com (ibi sum)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:42:54 +0100
Subject: See? This is why this shit SUCKS ..
Message-ID: <FA3BC6B6-7DA1-478D-B958-1A7E6116876C@gmail.com>

.. even Kraftwerk can?t help checking their fucking email on stage:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la7CTPNTDb4#t=320

Ass!

;
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ibisum at gmail.com

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From forums at punkdisco.co.uk  Sat Feb 28 21:40:00 2015
From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 20:40:00 -0000
Subject: See? This is why this shit SUCKS ..
In-Reply-To: <FA3BC6B6-7DA1-478D-B958-1A7E6116876C@gmail.com>
References: <FA3BC6B6-7DA1-478D-B958-1A7E6116876C@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <25ac01d05396$bb14d990$313e8cb0$@punkdisco.co.uk>

That?s pretty rubbish..

Paul
London
www.punkdisco.co.uk

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ibi sum [mailto:ibisum at gmail.com]
> Sent: 28 February 2015 19:43
> To: Music-bar
> Subject: See? This is why this shit SUCKS ..
> 
> .. even Kraftwerk can?t help checking their fucking email on stage:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la7CTPNTDb4#t=320
> 
> Ass!
> 
> ;
> --
> Jay Vaughan
> ibisum at gmail.com



From moron at industrial.org  Sat Feb 28 23:21:24 2015
From: moron at industrial.org (moron)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:21:24 -0800
Subject: See? This is why this shit SUCKS ..
In-Reply-To: <25ac01d05396$bb14d990$313e8cb0$@punkdisco.co.uk>
References: <FA3BC6B6-7DA1-478D-B958-1A7E6116876C@gmail.com>
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On Sat, 2015-02-28 at 20:40 +0000, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO wrote:
> That?s pretty rubbish..

Just the same thing everyone in the crowd was likely already doing on
their phones, no?

Cheers

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From nigel at explanatorygap.net  Sat Feb 28 23:28:00 2015
From: nigel at explanatorygap.net (Nigel Kersten)
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 14:28:00 -0800
Subject: See? This is why this shit SUCKS ..
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It's really not certain he's checking email... have you actually seen
anything definitive?

http://www.sequencer.de/blog/kraftwerk-2015-controller-check/21649

I haven't been convinced of anything other than the fact he's entering text
on an iPad into something.



On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 11:42 AM, ibi sum <ibisum at gmail.com> wrote:

> .. even Kraftwerk can?t help checking their fucking email on stage:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la7CTPNTDb4#t=320
>
> Ass!
>
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