From forums at deadmengods.com Mon Sep 1 22:34:22 2014 From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 22:34:22 +0200 Subject: Listening to... Message-ID: ...the new album "Bullets & Desert Blooms" by Electro Spectre. After a first round, I really like it. http://open.spotify.com/album/1FHPECi1fahLFw5tjHDBqt https://itunes.apple.com/se/album/bullets-desert-blooms/id912858464?l=en /Micke -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From peter at severity-one.com Mon Sep 1 23:02:36 2014 From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 23:02:36 +0200 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Just came back from a nice dinner with Paul, Leah and Tony. Way too short, but that can't be helped. One thing that strikes me every time I meet someone from the Music Bar, is that they're all interesting people that do cool things. So it's a bit bitter-sweet, being part of such an interesting and inspiring community, yet having only limited opportunity to meet them face to face. The fact that we're staying in a posh area (just saw a Bugatti Veyron in a showroom, together with an assortment of Rolls Royces) makes it all the more surreal. Thank goodness for special offers on hotel accommodation... Anyway. If you ever come to Malta (and you're not allergic to cats) you're invited. And probably about a year from now, we'll be in Berlin. Until that time, I will do something musical, one day. - Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Begin forwarded message: > From: monome > Subject: news. white whale. > Date: September 1, 2014 at 2:57:55 PM EDT > To: monome news subscriber > > friends, hello. > > we made a module that talks to your modular synth, allowing the grid to play without help from computers. > > it's a live probabilistic step sequencer. it's the first in a series. it's called white whale. > > http://monome.org/modular > > > we're honored to feature a new interview from taylor deupree of 12k. > > http://monome.org > > > we somehow found time to make music: > > kelli cain, first magnitude. http://kellicain.com/first-magnitude > > brian crabtree, skyclad and eighteenth/weathervane: http://nnnnnnnn.org > > and not totally new but we're still moving to trent gill's whimsical raps: http://whimsicalraps.com > > > we hope you are very well. > > brian and kelli and trent > > -- > unsubscribe: http://monome.org/dada/mail.cgi/u/monome/andrew/polaritydesign.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl Mon Sep 1 23:45:35 2014 From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 23:45:35 +0200 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5404E8FF.8010707@upcmail.nl> Peter Korsten schreef op 1-9-2014 23:02: > Just came back from a nice dinner with Paul, Leah and Tony. Way > too short, but that can't be helped. > > One thing that strikes me every time I meet someone from the > Music Bar, is that they're all interesting people that do cool > things. So it's a bit bitter-sweet, being part of such an > interesting and inspiring community, yet having only limited > opportunity to meet them face to face. > > The fact that we're staying in a posh area (just saw a Bugatti > Veyron in a showroom, together with an assortment of Rolls > Royces) makes it all the more surreal. Thank goodness for > special offers on hotel accommodation... > > Anyway. If you ever come to Malta (and you're not allergic to > cats) you're invited. And probably about a year from now, we'll > be in Berlin. > > Until that time, I will do something musical, one day. > Haha, nice post. Good to hear you guys had a great time :-) -- Gert gert van santen www.gertvansanten.nl From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl Mon Sep 1 23:48:58 2014 From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 23:48:58 +0200 Subject: Listening to... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5404E9CA.5020409@upcmail.nl> Mikael Hansson schreef op 1-9-2014 22:34: > ...the new album "Bullets & Desert Blooms" by Electro Spectre. > After a first round, I really like it. > > http://open.spotify.com/album/1FHPECi1fahLFw5tjHDBqt Very nice! Thanks for the link :-) -- Gert gert van santen www.gertvansanten.nl From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Tue Sep 2 00:00:40 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO) Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 23:00:40 +0100 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yeah, was Lovely meeting you (and Yana). Your son is also a pretty cool little fella.. Hopefully see you again soon.... Enjoy the rest of your stay. Paul + Leah London www.punkdisco.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: "Peter Korsten" Sent: ?01/?09/?2014 22:02 To: "Music-bar" Subject: London micro-meet Just came back from a nice dinner with Paul, Leah and Tony. Way too short, but that can't be helped. One thing that strikes me every time I meet someone from the Music Bar, is that they're all interesting people that do cool things. So it's a bit bitter-sweet, being part of such an interesting and inspiring community, yet having only limited opportunity to meet them face to face. The fact that we're staying in a posh area (just saw a Bugatti Veyron in a showroom, together with an assortment of Rolls Royces) makes it all the more surreal. Thank goodness for special offers on hotel accommodation... Anyway. If you ever come to Malta (and you're not allergic to cats) you're invited. And probably about a year from now, we'll be in Berlin. Until that time, I will do something musical, one day. - Peter -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at entity.net Tue Sep 2 00:23:15 2014 From: tony at entity.net (Tony Hardie-Bick) Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2014 23:23:15 +0100 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> References: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> Message-ID: <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> On 01/09/14 23:00, punkdISCO wrote: > Yeah, was Lovely meeting you (and Yana). Your son is also a pretty cool > little fella.. Yeah - great to meet you Peter - I see the glint of the city life in all three of you, and it was good to see :) Have fun for the rest of your trip! t. From tom.adam at thebigear.be Tue Sep 2 08:50:36 2014 From: tom.adam at thebigear.be (tom.adam at thebigear.be) Date: Tue, 02 Sep 2014 06:50:36 GMT Subject: white whale In-Reply-To: <101341EA-C0FC-4A39-9A0A-BB2CE13F50FC@gmail.com> References: <101341EA-C0FC-4A39-9A0A-BB2CE13F50FC@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1409640636133.124068.24820@webmail7> mmm a modular module with an USB connection, somehow this gives me the creeps.... So what is a monome? ToAd On September 1, 2014, Andrew Tarpinian wrote: > Wow, this is kind of a big deal if you are a modular monome person. > > > Begin forwarded message: > > From:monome <> > > Subject:news. white whale. > > Date:September 1, 2014 at 2:57:55 PM EDT > > To:monome news subscriber <> > > friends, hello. > > > > we made a module that talks to your modular synth, allowing the grid to play without help from computers. > > > > it's a live probabilistic step sequencer. it's the first in a series. it's called white whale. > > > > > > > > > > we're honored to feature a new interview from taylor deupree of 12k. > > > > http://monome.org > > > > > > we somehow found time to make music: > > > > kelli cain, first magnitude. http://kellicain.com/first-magnitude > > > > brian crabtree, skyclad and eighteenth/weathervane: http://nnnnnnnn.org > > > > and not totally new but we're still moving to trent gill's whimsical raps: http://whimsicalraps.com > > > > > > we hope you are very well. > > > > brian and kelli and trent > > > > -- > > unsubscribe: http://monome.org/dada/mail.cgi/u/monome/andrew/polaritydesign.com/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From canine at waf80.de Tue Sep 2 09:15:06 2014 From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 09:15:06 +0200 Subject: white whale In-Reply-To: <1409640636133.124068.24820@webmail7> References: <101341EA-C0FC-4A39-9A0A-BB2CE13F50FC@gmail.com> <1409640636133.124068.24820@webmail7> Message-ID: <35B4E0ED-A38F-49A4-9071-5C7A52EC05EC@waf80.de> It's a Grid controller. Or rather *the* original grid controller. The thing is: this Usv is not a connection to a computer, it's the A-type, that lets you connect a peripheral. In this case the module seems to be a powerful sequencer (something has to justify that 300$ price tag) that works even after the grid is disconnected. But using it, programming and playing, work without a computer whatsoever! I have a semi-neglected monome and think this module is quite exciting (albeit trop cher!) Kai Sent from my phone On 02.09.2014, at 06:50, wrote: > mmm a modular module with an USB connection, somehow this gives me the creeps.... > > So what is a monome? > > ToAd > > On September 1, 2014, Andrew Tarpinian wrote: > >> Wow, this is kind of a big deal if you are a modular monome person. >> >> Begin forwarded message: >> >> From: monome >> Subject: news. white whale. >> Date: September 1, 2014 at 2:57:55 PM EDT >> To: monome news subscriber >> >> friends, hello. >> >> we made a module that talks to your modular synth, allowing the grid to play without help from computers. >> >> it's a live probabilistic step sequencer. it's the first in a series. it's called white whale. >> >> http://monome.org/modular >> >> >> we're honored to feature a new interview from taylor deupree of 12k. >> >> http://monome.org >> >> >> we somehow found time to make music: >> >> kelli cain, first magnitude. http://kellicain.com/first-magnitude >> >> brian crabtree, skyclad and eighteenth/weathervane: http://nnnnnnnn.org >> >> and not totally new but we're still moving to trent gill's whimsical raps: http://whimsicalraps.com >> >> >> we hope you are very well. >> >> brian and kelli and trent >> >> -- >> unsubscribe: http://monome.org/dada/mail.cgi/u/monome/andrew/polaritydesign.com/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:00 AM, Mikael Hansson wrote: > > http://www.korg.com/us/news/2014/0831/ > > Bummer, but at the same time good since I have filled my gear-spending-allowed-by-wife-quota for this year :-) > > /Micke > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at deadmengods.com Thu Sep 4 16:33:18 2014 From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 16:33:18 +0200 Subject: New Electribes Message-ID: <9EB028CD-FB9C-4DE0-9F51-109117F62422@deadmengods.com> I know there's some members with love for the Electribes http://youtu.be/ZOeCxxGcXt0 Sent from Mikaels cellular device -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl Thu Sep 4 20:13:57 2014 From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 20:13:57 +0200 Subject: New Electribes In-Reply-To: References: <9EB028CD-FB9C-4DE0-9F51-109117F62422@deadmengods.com> Message-ID: <16F5D4B3-8AB8-4943-82C0-8AF0FDD33910@joostschuttelaar.nl> On 4 sep. 2014, at 20:08, Peter Korsten wrote: > Interesting... although I wonder what it shares with its predecessors other than the name. It's just a brand :) -- Joost Schuttelaar The Hague, NL From canine at waf80.de Thu Sep 4 20:28:12 2014 From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2014 20:28:12 +0200 Subject: New Electribes In-Reply-To: <16F5D4B3-8AB8-4943-82C0-8AF0FDD33910@joostschuttelaar.nl> References: <9EB028CD-FB9C-4DE0-9F51-109117F62422@deadmengods.com> <16F5D4B3-8AB8-4943-82C0-8AF0FDD33910@joostschuttelaar.nl> Message-ID: <39A87065-39F6-4363-8F6C-D4B996BA8218@waf80.de> Do they blend? ....I mean, does it actually sample? Or are the "sample" versions only sample players? Sent from my phone On 04.09.2014, at 20:13, Joost Schuttelaar wrote: > On 4 sep. 2014, at 20:08, Peter Korsten wrote: > >> Interesting... although I wonder what it shares with its predecessors other than the name. > > It's just a brand :) > > -- > > Joost Schuttelaar > The Hague, NL > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From forums at deadmengods.com Fri Sep 5 15:54:45 2014 From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson) Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2014 15:54:45 +0200 Subject: New Motu interfaces Message-ID: <3BB87008-5298-4337-9888-37DCB105B3CA@deadmengods.com> http://www.motu.com Looks nice, a bit expensive though, about 1300? Sent from Mikaels cellular device From peter at severity-one.com Sat Sep 6 02:19:24 2014 From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 02:19:24 +0200 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> References: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> Message-ID: <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> Tony Hardie-Bick schreef op 2-9-2014 00:23: > Have fun for the rest of your trip! We just returned home. Actually a bit before, but only now I've found time to sit down and go through some e-mail. The rest of the trip was... slightly eventful. :) You may have noticed that Yana wasn't walking very well on the way back, and in fact we got a taxi home instead of taking the Tube. The next day, things went a bit sour when going down the stairs in South Kensington station. Something "snapped" in her left knee, and she somehow made it down the stairs, but she couldn't really walk any further. So we got an ambulance. But that took ages, and all the while there was a policeman (more accurately, a police community support officer) with us. After about an hour and a half, the ambulance crew arrived. Now, South Kensington doesn't have escalators or a lift, because it's a listed building. Which caused a bit of a problem, because how were we going to get her out of there? So they got a wheelchair down, we took the wheelchair into the train until Earl's Court, where they do have a lift. There was already somebody of Transport for London waiting for us to guide us through the gates, and only after the ambulance arrived did the policeman leave us. It's seriously impressive how well organised everything and everybody is, by the way. Not in the least because of the pervasive surveillance, no doubt, but once the ambulance was there, it went like clockwork. Once at the hospital, we got to deal with what everybody using the NHS has to deal with: queues. All in all it took until 1:30 BST before we were back at the hotel (some eight hours all in all), but at least the doctor was tall, dark and very handsome. I'd like to thank all British members of this list for their contribution to the NHS, and I'll have to see how we're going to send back or compensate those NHS-labelled crutches we got with us. Perhaps I should mention how Yana is doing. The problem appeared to be in the soft tissue, and it's already somewhat better than before. But she's going to see a specialist here (which would have been her brother if it weren't for the fact that he lives abroad) and we'll take it from there. The following days, I took Jean-Luc out to several museums, because he likes those. First the National Portrait Gallery, where they have a lot of paintings of people who had their heads chopped off. The day after that we went next door to the National Gallery, where there's an inordinate focus on Van Gogh's sunflowers in the museum shop. And finally, today we went to the Natural History Museum for an exhibition about mammoths. As usual, my son rushed through the exhibition as if he were at Silverstone, but at least we got a couple of cute soft toys, not to mention yet more fridge magnets. I think we may need to purchase a bigger fridge. Also, today I bought Sound On Sound, for the first time in many years. There's Paul Maddox's Modulus 002 mentioned (and Paul gets mentioned, too), and I found the magazine inspiring again. Let's see what comes out. I have an idea, but I need to investigate Java and CUDA a bit. And I need more time... - Peter From seclorum at mac.com Sat Sep 6 09:39:08 2014 From: seclorum at mac.com (Jay Vaughan) Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2014 09:39:08 +0200 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> References: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> Message-ID: > Also, today I bought Sound On Sound, for the first time in many years. There's Paul Maddox's Modulus 002 mentioned (and Paul gets mentioned, too), and I found the magazine inspiring again. Let's see what comes out. I have an idea, but I need to investigate Java and CUDA a bit. And I need more time... > - Peter Yay! :) j. From xtechcode at gmail.com Sat Sep 6 15:12:02 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 15:12:02 +0200 Subject: Gadget midi sync Message-ID: <58C1C480-FBBF-4D87-BB91-BB7442EFC881@gmail.com> Hi everyone, if you don t know : Korg Gadget has an upgrade with midi sync :) Romain From noisetheorem at outlook.com Sat Sep 6 18:09:29 2014 From: noisetheorem at outlook.com (Tony Scharf) Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2014 16:09:29 +0000 Subject: =?utf-8?Q?Re:_Gadget_midi_sync?= In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?and export to live. KORG is really impressing me lately. Sent from Surface From: Romain / rXg Sent: ?Saturday?, ?September? ?6?, ?2014 ?8?:?12? ?AM To: Music-bar Hi everyone, if you don t know : Korg Gadget has an upgrade with midi sync :) Romain _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sun Sep 7 10:27:04 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 09:27:04 +0100 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> References: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> Message-ID: <019901cfca75$83a35ea0$8aea1be0$@punkdisco.co.uk> Flip Peter - just read this.. Not a great way to spend you holiday.. Really hope Yana made a speedy recovery and all is on the way to getting better.. See you all again sometime soon I hope.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: Peter Korsten [mailto:peter at severity-one.com] > Sent: 06 September 2014 01:19 > To: Music-bar > Subject: Re: London micro-meet > > Tony Hardie-Bick schreef op 2-9-2014 00:23: > > > Have fun for the rest of your trip! > > We just returned home. Actually a bit before, but only now I've found time > to sit down and go through some e-mail. > > The rest of the trip was... slightly eventful. :) You may have noticed that Yana > wasn't walking very well on the way back, and in fact we got a taxi home > instead of taking the Tube. > > The next day, things went a bit sour when going down the stairs in South > Kensington station. Something "snapped" in her left knee, and she somehow > made it down the stairs, but she couldn't really walk any further. So we got > an ambulance. But that took ages, and all the while there was a policeman > (more accurately, a police community support > officer) with us. > > After about an hour and a half, the ambulance crew arrived. Now, South > Kensington doesn't have escalators or a lift, because it's a listed building. > Which caused a bit of a problem, because how were we going to get her out > of there? So they got a wheelchair down, we took the wheelchair into the > train until Earl's Court, where they do have a lift. > > There was already somebody of Transport for London waiting for us to guide > us through the gates, and only after the ambulance arrived did the policeman > leave us. It's seriously impressive how well organised everything and > everybody is, by the way. Not in the least because of the pervasive > surveillance, no doubt, but once the ambulance was there, it went like > clockwork. > > Once at the hospital, we got to deal with what everybody using the NHS has > to deal with: queues. All in all it took until 1:30 BST before we were back at > the hotel (some eight hours all in all), but at least the doctor was tall, dark > and very handsome. > > I'd like to thank all British members of this list for their contribution to the > NHS, and I'll have to see how we're going to send back or compensate those > NHS-labelled crutches we got with us. > > Perhaps I should mention how Yana is doing. The problem appeared to be in > the soft tissue, and it's already somewhat better than before. But she's going > to see a specialist here (which would have been her brother if it weren't for > the fact that he lives abroad) and we'll take it from there. > > The following days, I took Jean-Luc out to several museums, because he likes > those. First the National Portrait Gallery, where they have a lot of paintings > of people who had their heads chopped off. The day after that we went next > door to the National Gallery, where there's an inordinate focus on Van > Gogh's sunflowers in the museum shop. And finally, today we went to the > Natural History Museum for an exhibition about mammoths. As usual, my > son rushed through the exhibition as if he were at Silverstone, but at least > we got a couple of cute soft toys, not to mention yet more fridge magnets. I > think we may need to purchase a bigger fridge. > > Also, today I bought Sound On Sound, for the first time in many years. > There's Paul Maddox's Modulus 002 mentioned (and Paul gets mentioned, > too), and I found the magazine inspiring again. Let's see what comes out. I > have an idea, but I need to investigate Java and CUDA a bit. And I need more > time... > > - Peter > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sun Sep 7 16:12:13 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 15:12:13 +0100 Subject: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? Message-ID: <04c201cfcaa5$bb661dc0$32325940$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hi all We have a song where a German barman asks for payment. We are not sure if we want a male voice but fancy giving it a go.. So, if any of you have a voice that sounds like a young 20ish German barmen and have the time, we would love to hear an audio clip of you asking for: "3.30 Deutsche Marks please" Btw, I presume this would translate to: "3 und 30 Deutsche Marks bitte"? It's a difficult one to google as if you put "3.30DM" into a translation site, you get things like "3 comma 30" rather than what would be said in real life.. The track is 136bmp and whilst the vocal should sound like real life, it should be reasonable in-tempo Beat 1 2 3 4 3 und 30 Dutsche Marks bitte As you might guess with our stuff, audio quality is not important :) Big thanks.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From canine at waf80.de Sun Sep 7 16:24:54 2014 From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 16:24:54 +0200 Subject: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? In-Reply-To: <04c201cfcaa5$bb661dc0$32325940$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: <04c201cfcaa5$bb661dc0$32325940$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <05AD1398-E786-49F1-A1F2-162F300A90F3@waf80.de> I think i can help you there...;-) "Dry Mark dry-cig, bittuh." Would be the generally used sentence. I'll record it tonight, ok? Sent from my phone On 07.09.2014, at 16:12, "foRUMS 4 punkdISCO" wrote: > Hi all > > We have a song where a German barman asks for payment. We are not sure if we want a male voice but fancy giving it a go.. So, if any of you have a voice that sounds like a young 20ish German barmen and have the time, we would love to hear an audio clip of you asking for: > > ?3.30 Deutsche Marks please? > > Btw, I presume this would translate to: ?3 und 30 Deutsche Marks bitte?? It?s a difficult one to google as if you put ?3.30DM? into a translation site, you get things like ?3 comma 30? rather than what would be said in real life.. > > The track is 136bmp and whilst the vocal should sound like real life, it should be reasonable in-tempo > > Beat 1 2 3 4 > 3 und 30 Dutsche Marks bitte > > As you might guess with our stuff, audio quality is not important J > > Big thanks.. > > Paul > London > www.punkdisco.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sun Sep 7 18:02:29 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sun, 7 Sep 2014 17:02:29 +0100 Subject: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? In-Reply-To: <05AD1398-E786-49F1-A1F2-162F300A90F3@waf80.de> References: <04c201cfcaa5$bb661dc0$32325940$@punkdisco.co.uk> <05AD1398-E786-49F1-A1F2-162F300A90F3@waf80.de> Message-ID: <04fb01cfcab5$22e24820$68a6d860$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hey Kai That would be ace, thanks.. Would the below wording be completely incorrect? ?Dry Deutsche Mark dry-cig, bittuh." ?? We both really like the word ?Deutsche mark? as it sounds, well, German..! :) If it could be conceived as realistic, could you do both please? 1) ?Dry Mark dry-cig, bittuh." 2) ?Dry Deutsche Mark dry-cig, bittuh." The timing would be: Beat 1 2 3 4 Dry Mark dry-cig, bittuh Or Dry Mark dry-cig bitt- uh Or Dry Deutsche Mark dry-cig, bitt- uh But ill leave it to you to decide what feels right.. Btw, there is no rush on this as I tend to not do much music mid-week.. Dankesch?n, Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk From: K9 Kai Niggemann [mailto:canine at waf80.de] Sent: 07 September 2014 15:25 To: Music-bar Subject: Re: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? I think i can help you there...;-) "Dry Mark dry-cig, bittuh." Would be the generally used sentence. I'll record it tonight, ok? Sent from my phone On 07.09.2014, at 16:12, "foRUMS 4 punkdISCO" > wrote: Hi all We have a song where a German barman asks for payment. We are not sure if we want a male voice but fancy giving it a go.. So, if any of you have a voice that sounds like a young 20ish German barmen and have the time, we would love to hear an audio clip of you asking for: ?3.30 Deutsche Marks please? Btw, I presume this would translate to: ?3 und 30 Deutsche Marks bitte?? It?s a difficult one to google as if you put ?3.30DM? into a translation site, you get things like ?3 comma 30? rather than what would be said in real life.. The track is 136bmp and whilst the vocal should sound like real life, it should be reasonable in-tempo Beat 1 2 3 4 3 und 30 Dutsche Marks bitte As you might guess with our stuff, audio quality is not important :) Big thanks.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at entity.net Sun Sep 7 19:35:10 2014 From: tony at entity.net (Tony Hardie-Bick) Date: Sun, 07 Sep 2014 18:35:10 +0100 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: <019901cfca75$83a35ea0$8aea1be0$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> <019901cfca75$83a35ea0$8aea1be0$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <540C974E.5010602@entity.net> wow - yeah - i hope yana gets better soon. t. On 07/09/14 09:27, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO wrote: > Flip Peter - just read this.. Not a great way to spend you holiday.. > > Really hope Yana made a speedy recovery and all is on the way to getting > better.. > > See you all again sometime soon I hope.. > > Paul > London > www.punkdisco.co.uk > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Peter Korsten [mailto:peter at severity-one.com] >> Sent: 06 September 2014 01:19 >> To: Music-bar >> Subject: Re: London micro-meet >> >> Tony Hardie-Bick schreef op 2-9-2014 00:23: >> >>> Have fun for the rest of your trip! >> >> We just returned home. Actually a bit before, but only now I've found time >> to sit down and go through some e-mail. >> >> The rest of the trip was... slightly eventful. :) You may have noticed > that Yana >> wasn't walking very well on the way back, and in fact we got a taxi home >> instead of taking the Tube. >> >> The next day, things went a bit sour when going down the stairs in South >> Kensington station. Something "snapped" in her left knee, and she somehow >> made it down the stairs, but she couldn't really walk any further. So we > got >> an ambulance. But that took ages, and all the while there was a policeman >> (more accurately, a police community support >> officer) with us. >> >> After about an hour and a half, the ambulance crew arrived. Now, South >> Kensington doesn't have escalators or a lift, because it's a listed > building. >> Which caused a bit of a problem, because how were we going to get her out >> of there? So they got a wheelchair down, we took the wheelchair into the >> train until Earl's Court, where they do have a lift. >> >> There was already somebody of Transport for London waiting for us to guide >> us through the gates, and only after the ambulance arrived did the > policeman >> leave us. It's seriously impressive how well organised everything and >> everybody is, by the way. Not in the least because of the pervasive >> surveillance, no doubt, but once the ambulance was there, it went like >> clockwork. >> >> Once at the hospital, we got to deal with what everybody using the NHS has >> to deal with: queues. All in all it took until 1:30 BST before we were > back at >> the hotel (some eight hours all in all), but at least the doctor was tall, > dark >> and very handsome. >> >> I'd like to thank all British members of this list for their contribution > to the >> NHS, and I'll have to see how we're going to send back or compensate those >> NHS-labelled crutches we got with us. >> >> Perhaps I should mention how Yana is doing. The problem appeared to be in >> the soft tissue, and it's already somewhat better than before. But she's > going >> to see a specialist here (which would have been her brother if it weren't > for >> the fact that he lives abroad) and we'll take it from there. >> >> The following days, I took Jean-Luc out to several museums, because he > likes >> those. First the National Portrait Gallery, where they have a lot of > paintings >> of people who had their heads chopped off. The day after that we went next >> door to the National Gallery, where there's an inordinate focus on Van >> Gogh's sunflowers in the museum shop. And finally, today we went to the >> Natural History Museum for an exhibition about mammoths. As usual, my >> son rushed through the exhibition as if he were at Silverstone, but at > least >> we got a couple of cute soft toys, not to mention yet more fridge magnets. > I >> think we may need to purchase a bigger fridge. >> >> Also, today I bought Sound On Sound, for the first time in many years. >> There's Paul Maddox's Modulus 002 mentioned (and Paul gets mentioned, >> too), and I found the magazine inspiring again. Let's see what comes out. > I >> have an idea, but I need to investigate Java and CUDA a bit. And I need > more >> time... >> >> - Peter >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > From forums at deadmengods.com Mon Sep 8 19:12:39 2014 From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 19:12:39 +0200 Subject: New track - Out of control Message-ID: Got some time to make a track this weekend. It's at a near finished state, thought I'd get some input from you guys :-) http://www.deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_out_of_control_idea.mp3 Lots of analog in this one: Evolver: Bass, layer 1 MiniBrute: Fizzling subbass AnalogFour 1: Bass drone at the beginning (just hearable) AnalogFour 2: Bright melody with panning delay AnalogFour 3: Bass, layer 2 (just in chorus) MicroWave XT: Bass, layer 3 Blue2: Arp Predator: Pad Kontakt: Piano Guitars through three different amps in Guitar Rig /Micke From forums at deadmengods.com Mon Sep 8 19:22:55 2014 From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 19:22:55 +0200 Subject: New track - Out of control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: + all drums from Analog Rytm :-) /Micke On 8 sep 2014, at 19:12, Mikael Hansson wrote: > Got some time to make a track this weekend. It's at a near finished state, thought I'd get some input from you guys :-) > > http://www.deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_out_of_control_idea.mp3 > > Lots of analog in this one: > > Evolver: Bass, layer 1 > MiniBrute: Fizzling subbass > AnalogFour 1: Bass drone at the beginning (just hearable) > AnalogFour 2: Bright melody with panning delay > AnalogFour 3: Bass, layer 2 (just in chorus) > > MicroWave XT: Bass, layer 3 > Blue2: Arp > Predator: Pad > Kontakt: Piano > > Guitars through three different amps in Guitar Rig > > /Micke From xtechcode at gmail.com Mon Sep 8 19:37:37 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 19:37:37 +0200 Subject: New track - Out of control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29238076-BCD5-4EFA-AC10-571B2A8740F4@gmail.com> Hi Micke, Well done ! I like it as always in your own style ? but i think you can do a better mix ( in my system the sound is over distorded ) I like the guitars ! :) On 08 Sep 2014, at 19:12, Mikael Hansson wrote: > Got some time to make a track this weekend. It's at a near finished state, thought I'd get some input from you guys :-) > > http://www.deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_out_of_control_idea.mp3 > > Lots of analog in this one: > > Evolver: Bass, layer 1 > MiniBrute: Fizzling subbass > AnalogFour 1: Bass drone at the beginning (just hearable) > AnalogFour 2: Bright melody with panning delay > AnalogFour 3: Bass, layer 2 (just in chorus) > > MicroWave XT: Bass, layer 3 > Blue2: Arp > Predator: Pad > Kontakt: Piano > > Guitars through three different amps in Guitar Rig > > /Micke > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From forums at deadmengods.com Mon Sep 8 19:59:18 2014 From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 19:59:18 +0200 Subject: New track - Out of control In-Reply-To: <29238076-BCD5-4EFA-AC10-571B2A8740F4@gmail.com> References: <29238076-BCD5-4EFA-AC10-571B2A8740F4@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 8 sep 2014, at 19:37, Rom MUSIC BAR wrote: > Hi Micke, Well done ! I like it as always in your own style ? > but i think you can do a better mix ( in my system the sound is over distorded ) > I like the guitars ! :) Thanks Romain, Yup, the mixing was given about 5 minutes for this one, there's some things I want to redo/change/add to the final version and I didn't have the stamina today to do separate recordings of the A4 and AR tracks :-) /Micke From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl Mon Sep 8 22:56:40 2014 From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen) Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2014 22:56:40 +0200 Subject: New track - Out of control In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <540E1808.3030501@upcmail.nl> Mikael Hansson schreef op 8-9-2014 19:12: > Got some time to make a track this weekend. It's at a near finished state, thought I'd get some input from you guys :-) > > http://www.deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_out_of_control_idea.mp3 > Great! And now some vocals to make it perfect :-) Like Romain says, love the guitar :-) -- Gert gert van santen www.gertvansanten.nl From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Tue Sep 9 08:57:06 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 07:57:06 +0100 Subject: New track - Out of control In-Reply-To: <540E1808.3030501@upcmail.nl> References: <540E1808.3030501@upcmail.nl> Message-ID: Me to for the vocal vote! Also loving the bass that is clearest at about 1:04. Good morning wakeup track..! Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: "Gert van Santen" Sent: ?08/?09/?2014 21:56 To: "Music-bar" Subject: Re: New track - Out of control Mikael Hansson schreef op 8-9-2014 19:12: > Got some time to make a track this weekend. It's at a near finished state, thought I'd get some input from you guys :-) > > http://www.deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_out_of_control_idea.mp3 > Great! And now some vocals to make it perfect :-) Like Romain says, love the guitar :-) -- Gert gert van santen www.gertvansanten.nl _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kai at kainiggemann.com Tue Sep 9 17:24:45 2014 From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2014 17:24:45 +0200 Subject: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? In-Reply-To: <04fb01cfcab5$22e24820$68a6d860$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: <04c201cfcaa5$bb661dc0$32325940$@punkdisco.co.uk> <05AD1398-E786-49F1-A1F2-162F300A90F3@waf80.de> <04fb01cfcab5$22e24820$68a6d860$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: I sent you a recording with wetransfer -- should be there in about 20 minutes...;-) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Btw, Kai does two variations: 1) "Dry Mark dry-cig, bittuh." 2) "Dry Deutsche Mark dry-cig, bittuh." I prefer #2 even if it is less correct; it sound more German.. Any thoughts? Btw, Kai sent some funny versions where he goes "full on" German. We both laughed a lot when we heard those so thank you :) I also left in one of his sexy versions at the end.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk > -----Original Message----- > From: K9 Kai Niggemann [mailto:kai at kainiggemann.com] > Sent: 09 September 2014 16:25 > To: Music bar > Subject: Re: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? > > I sent you a recording with wetransfer -- should be there in about 20 > minutes...;-) > From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl Tue Sep 9 23:59:01 2014 From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen) Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 23:59:01 +0200 Subject: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? In-Reply-To: <008301cfcc6d$e081d3a0$a1857ae0$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: <04c201cfcaa5$bb661dc0$32325940$@punkdisco.co.uk> <05AD1398-E786-49F1-A1F2-162F300A90F3@waf80.de> <04fb01cfcab5$22e24820$68a6d860$@punkdisco.co.uk> <008301cfcc6d$e081d3a0$a1857ae0$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <540F7825.2020302@upcmail.nl> foRUMS 4 punkdISCO schreef op 9-9-2014 22:37: > Hey Kai - Back at ya!! > https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/i-want-to-be-a-german-boy/s-qNXeH Cool! -- Gert gert van santen www.gertvansanten.nl From xtechcode at gmail.com Wed Sep 10 21:25:59 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 21:25:59 +0200 Subject: New track - Out of control In-Reply-To: References: <29238076-BCD5-4EFA-AC10-571B2A8740F4@gmail.com> Message-ID: :) Waiting the final mix for sure ? btw i was checking another song from you that I really like : http://www.deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_illusions_of_change_idea.mp3 it made me think of the song below maybe you know it ? I really love it , it makes me relax ... :) http://music.musicofthemoon.com/track/dust On 08 Sep 2014, at 19:59, Mikael Hansson wrote: > > On 8 sep 2014, at 19:37, Rom MUSIC BAR wrote: > >> Hi Micke, Well done ! I like it as always in your own style ? >> but i think you can do a better mix ( in my system the sound is over distorded ) >> I like the guitars ! :) > > Thanks Romain, > > Yup, the mixing was given about 5 minutes for this one, there's some things I want to redo/change/add to the final version and I didn't have the stamina today to do separate recordings of the A4 and AR tracks :-) > > /Micke > > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From xtechcode at gmail.com Thu Sep 11 00:34:17 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 00:34:17 +0200 Subject: New track - Out of control In-Reply-To: <207B993D-0BE4-4185-9546-8B90EE728B24@deadmengods.com> References: <29238076-BCD5-4EFA-AC10-571B2A8740F4@gmail.com> <207B993D-0BE4-4185-9546-8B90EE728B24@deadmengods.com> Message-ID: Ah now, I know the story of this riff Thank you !!! I really like it ? Also on a guitar with a nice chorus + delay it s awesome ;) Few weeks ago i got more or less the same story ( riff used) for one my song on youtube, I used a pattern (just one not changed) from ultrabeat Logic daw ? then the robot of youtube censured the complete audio of my song( or redirect it to the song of the guy ) because the guy copyrighted his song using the same pattern from ultrabeat Logic daw ( not changed), the only problem was I used mine in 2009 not 2012 like him ? I didn t sue the dude either lol. . . all in all now everything is fine ? A good lesson for me to avoid presets! :) On 10 Sep 2014, at 23:38, Mikael Hansson wrote: > > On 10 sep 2014, at 21:25, Rom MUSIC BAR wrote: > >> :) >> Waiting the final mix for sure ? >> btw i was checking another song from you that I really like : >> >> http://www.deadmengods.com/ideas/dmg_illusions_of_change_idea.mp3 >> >> it made me think of the song below maybe you know it ? I really love it , it makes me relax ... :) >> >> http://music.musicofthemoon.com/track/dust > > Ha, I should sue them since I posted mine 3.5 years before them :-) > > Well, from what I remember that sound is a preset arp sound played on a single note from the softsynth Sylenth, so it would probably not work out :-) > > /Micke > > > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nigel at 4trak.net Fri Sep 12 16:50:00 2014 From: nigel at 4trak.net (Nigel Kersten) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 07:50:00 -0700 Subject: new tracks.. Message-ID: Both Battery + Massive + FM8, with sprinklings of Max for Live throughout. more straight-up kind of house-y thing: https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/elctrorofotoper-alt Something a little odder, more footwork inspired: https://soundcloud.com/netsrek/serfbort -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deeplfo at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 21:11:02 2014 From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:11:02 -0700 Subject: Streaming Tunes Message-ID: for a bit http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deeplfo mohsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From deeplfo at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 21:45:45 2014 From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:45:45 -0700 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 Message-ID: So, I was getting a bit tired of the way my Adam-7s were sounding, especially when one of them starting to sound a bit on it's death bed. Did a bit of searching and decided to get the Equator Audio's D8. So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. Mohsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl Fri Sep 12 22:31:53 2014 From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 22:31:53 +0200 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 12 sep. 2014, at 21:45, deeplfo wrote: > So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. Interesting... I'm having these Tannoy Active Reveals now since... March 2003. They still work quite well, but perhaps my ears are up for something fresh. Interested in seeing that they use a DSP to separate the bands... something that has bugged me always, such a simple circuit for something that should be tuned quite precise. -- Joost Schuttelaar The Hague, NL From deeplfo at gmail.com Fri Sep 12 23:17:36 2014 From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:17:36 -0700 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm telling you, you guys have to try the D8. Amazing delivery for price. Don't get the D5s or the Q range. For any average ("bedroom") studio, the D8 are freaking GAME CHANGER. mohsen On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Joost Schuttelaar < joost at joostschuttelaar.nl> wrote: > On 12 sep. 2014, at 21:45, deeplfo wrote: > > > So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt > it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive > these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so > amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly > of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how > studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole > world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. > > Interesting... I'm having these Tannoy Active Reveals now since... March > 2003. They still work quite well, but perhaps my ears are up for something > fresh. Interested in seeing that they use a DSP to separate the bands... > something that has bugged me always, such a simple circuit for something > that should be tuned quite precise. > > -- > > Joost Schuttelaar > The Hague, NL > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 00:01:09 2014 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:01:09 -0400 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <67274A4F-4C90-4A2D-B4D4-40ADFC67EC1E@gmail.com> I think they are hard to get outside the US. But yea they are great, I got them instead of smaller genelecs that were twice the price. > On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:17 PM, deeplfo wrote: > > I'm telling you, you guys have to try the D8. Amazing delivery for price. Don't get the D5s or the Q range. For any average ("bedroom") studio, the D8 are freaking GAME CHANGER. > > mohsen > >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Joost Schuttelaar wrote: >> On 12 sep. 2014, at 21:45, deeplfo wrote: >> >> > So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. >> >> Interesting... I'm having these Tannoy Active Reveals now since... March 2003. They still work quite well, but perhaps my ears are up for something fresh. Interested in seeing that they use a DSP to separate the bands... something that has bugged me always, such a simple circuit for something that should be tuned quite precise. >> >> -- >> >> Joost Schuttelaar >> The Hague, NL >> >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ibisum at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 01:20:58 2014 From: ibisum at gmail.com (Ibi Sum) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 01:20:58 +0200 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: <67274A4F-4C90-4A2D-B4D4-40ADFC67EC1E@gmail.com> References: <67274A4F-4C90-4A2D-B4D4-40ADFC67EC1E@gmail.com> Message-ID: How so a game changer though? I'm finding my genelecs to be thoroughly amazing even still today. Are the D8's giving you a feature, or some dynamic, that assists the process of mastering for a broad spectrum? These are mastering, not listening, speakers right? ; -- seclorum > On Sep 13, 2014, at 0:01, Andrew Tarpinian wrote: > > I think they are hard to get outside the US. > > But yea they are great, I got them instead of smaller genelecs that were twice the price. > >> On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:17 PM, deeplfo wrote: >> >> I'm telling you, you guys have to try the D8. Amazing delivery for price. Don't get the D5s or the Q range. For any average ("bedroom") studio, the D8 are freaking GAME CHANGER. >> >> mohsen >> >>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Joost Schuttelaar wrote: >>> On 12 sep. 2014, at 21:45, deeplfo wrote: >>> >>> > So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. >>> >>> Interesting... I'm having these Tannoy Active Reveals now since... March 2003. They still work quite well, but perhaps my ears are up for something fresh. Interested in seeing that they use a DSP to separate the bands... something that has bugged me always, such a simple circuit for something that should be tuned quite precise. >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Joost Schuttelaar >>> The Hague, NL >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> music-bar mailing list >>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar >> >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 02:02:02 2014 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:02:02 -0400 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: <67274A4F-4C90-4A2D-B4D4-40ADFC67EC1E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4A336542-7170-4E59-B167-D1D6478A70F3@gmail.com> Yea mixing/mastering. You get that next level omg reference type speaker clarity and stereo imaging along with a bigger speaker and wider freq range for the price. They sell mostly direct, have a coaxial design and are made in China, so that's part of the cost savings. > On Sep 12, 2014, at 7:20 PM, Ibi Sum wrote: > > How so a game changer though? I'm finding my genelecs to be thoroughly amazing even still today. Are the D8's giving you a feature, or some dynamic, that assists the process of mastering for a broad spectrum? These are mastering, not listening, speakers right? > > ; > -- > seclorum > >> On Sep 13, 2014, at 0:01, Andrew Tarpinian wrote: >> >> I think they are hard to get outside the US. >> >> But yea they are great, I got them instead of smaller genelecs that were twice the price. >> >>> On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:17 PM, deeplfo wrote: >>> >>> I'm telling you, you guys have to try the D8. Amazing delivery for price. Don't get the D5s or the Q range. For any average ("bedroom") studio, the D8 are freaking GAME CHANGER. >>> >>> mohsen >>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Joost Schuttelaar wrote: >>>> On 12 sep. 2014, at 21:45, deeplfo wrote: >>>> >>>> > So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. >>>> >>>> Interesting... I'm having these Tannoy Active Reveals now since... March 2003. They still work quite well, but perhaps my ears are up for something fresh. Interested in seeing that they use a DSP to separate the bands... something that has bugged me always, such a simple circuit for something that should be tuned quite precise. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Joost Schuttelaar >>>> The Hague, NL >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> music-bar mailing list >>>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >>>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> music-bar mailing list >>> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >>> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 02:31:06 2014 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian) Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 20:31:06 -0400 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <733D16E6-83EB-4524-837E-FD16EB63A8B4@gmail.com> Also random, but these two tracks sound flipping awesome on these speakers. Overwerk - Daybreak Feed Me - Orion (that drop) Flat reference speakers can really make good listening speakers with properly mixed stuff. > On Sep 12, 2014, at 5:17 PM, deeplfo wrote: > > I'm telling you, you guys have to try the D8. Amazing delivery for price. Don't get the D5s or the Q range. For any average ("bedroom") studio, the D8 are freaking GAME CHANGER. > > mohsen > >> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Joost Schuttelaar wrote: >> On 12 sep. 2014, at 21:45, deeplfo wrote: >> >> > So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. >> >> Interesting... I'm having these Tannoy Active Reveals now since... March 2003. They still work quite well, but perhaps my ears are up for something fresh. Interested in seeing that they use a DSP to separate the bands... something that has bugged me always, such a simple circuit for something that should be tuned quite precise. >> >> -- >> >> Joost Schuttelaar >> The Hague, NL >> >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kai at kainiggemann.com Sat Sep 13 03:57:15 2014 From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 03:57:15 +0200 Subject: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? In-Reply-To: <008301cfcc6d$e081d3a0$a1857ae0$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: <04c201cfcaa5$bb661dc0$32325940$@punkdisco.co.uk> <05AD1398-E786-49F1-A1F2-162F300A90F3@waf80.de> <04fb01cfcab5$22e24820$68a6d860$@punkdisco.co.uk> <008301cfcc6d$e081d3a0$a1857ae0$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <1A71B9EC-65BB-4E8E-84DA-9B8B8FC95AB0@kainiggemann.com> your welcome Paul. can't wait to hear how this track turns out. I personally think (but that's just the German in me) that using "drei Deutsche Mark drei?ig" just once is fine, then you might want to use the other one. But in the end it doesn't really matter -- some of the best songs from UK groups use German in a way that's memorably but not correct..;) I was hoping you'd laugh about the more lascivious versions..;) all the best Kai On 09.09.2014, at 22:37, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO wrote: > Hey Kai - Back at ya!! > > Hey Kai - this is awesome.. So awesome in fact, I have sent the bar a track > at the 20% mark. Ive sent stuff at the 80% mark before but never this rough > :) > > There is no structure or anything - I cut out 1 minute of silence in Sound > Forge. > > https://soundcloud.com/punkdisco/i-want-to-be-a-german-boy/s-qNXeH > > Kai (rock n'roll singer) comes in at 1:20 in the chorus. > > Btw, Kai does two variations: > > 1) "Dry Mark dry-cig, bittuh." > 2) "Dry Deutsche Mark dry-cig, bittuh." > > I prefer #2 even if it is less correct; it sound more German.. Any > thoughts? > > Btw, Kai sent some funny versions where he goes "full on" German. We both > laughed a lot when we heard those so thank you :) I also left in one of his > sexy versions at the end.. > > Paul > London > www.punkdisco.co.uk > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: K9 Kai Niggemann [mailto:kai at kainiggemann.com] >> Sent: 09 September 2014 16:25 >> To: Music bar >> Subject: Re: Favour - any German speakers with a microphone? >> >> I sent you a recording with wetransfer -- should be there in about 20 >> minutes...;-) >> > > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So, one of the things that bugged me about the Adam's were that I felt it operated a bit too hot; it didn't take much output from my end to drive these guys. And now comes the D8s, woowowow....these things sound so amazingly good, it's unreal the difference. And here I was thinking highly of the Adams, but testing them side by side totally made it clear how studio monitors should sound. D8 are truly amazing. It has made a whole world of difference and am going to share some sounds hopefully soon. Mohsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sat Sep 13 10:02:17 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 09:02:17 +0100 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <008a01cfcf29$0c070870$24151950$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hey Joost > Interesting... I'm having these Tannoy Active Reveals now since... March > 2003. They still work quite well, but perhaps my ears are up for something > fresh. Interested in seeing that they use a DSP to separate the bands... > something that has bugged me always, such a simple circuit for something > that should be tuned quite precise. I know it is often said but, the most important thing about monitors is to know them well. Look at how many people spend their whole mixing career using NS10s.. So, if you like the Reveals, keep using them.. Saying this, if you want to upgrade and can afford it, that's cool.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk From canine at waf80.de Sat Sep 13 10:49:41 2014 From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 10:49:41 +0200 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: <008a01cfcf29$0c070870$24151950$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: <008a01cfcf29$0c070870$24151950$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <652A1D43-5150-4A45-8C15-24A7B755D5BB@waf80.de> I must admit that I don't really like what I'm reading about them. Manufactured in china, with a dsp to make the sound better and to make them cheaper than, say, Genelecs? Sounds a bit like a copycat business. But that's just my first impression... From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Sat Sep 13 11:41:12 2014 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 05:41:12 -0400 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: <652A1D43-5150-4A45-8C15-24A7B755D5BB@waf80.de> References: <008a01cfcf29$0c070870$24151950$@punkdisco.co.uk> <652A1D43-5150-4A45-8C15-24A7B755D5BB@waf80.de> Message-ID: Certainly did not mean to make them sound bad, they are not behringer. Their design is different than pretty much every other monitor on the market and I would say most monitors are built in China now, mackie, krk etc... So hardly a shady tactic and not a copycat. I wish everything could be built in the country it was designed but, well... The dsp thing is a guess and really does it matter if it sounds good? A lot of high end monitors contain dsp. If anything genelecs seem way over priced to me, like they're the ones taking the piss out of us. Maybe that's really what it costs to make them? Or brand name profit? > On Sep 13, 2014, at 4:49 AM, K9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > > I must admit that I don't really like what I'm reading about them. Manufactured in china, with a dsp to make the sound better and to make them cheaper than, say, Genelecs? > > Sounds a bit like a copycat business. But that's just my first impression... > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From nigel at 4trak.net Sat Sep 13 20:11:46 2014 From: nigel at 4trak.net (Nigel Kersten) Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2014 11:11:46 -0700 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: <008a01cfcf29$0c070870$24151950$@punkdisco.co.uk> <652A1D43-5150-4A45-8C15-24A7B755D5BB@waf80.de> Message-ID: Mohsen, have you mixed anything on them yet? I always find there's that weird period with new monitors where you don't really know how good they are for production until you've done a couple of mixes. I was in a huge hurry to get some decent monitors so broke just about every rule in my personal book by not researching the hell out of it and just picked up a pair of PreSonus Eris E5s for US$250. I'm definitely still the limiting factor in producing good mixes on my rig :) On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 2:41 AM, Andrew Tarpinian wrote: > Certainly did not mean to make them sound bad, they are not behringer. > > Their design is different than pretty much every other monitor on the > market and I would say most monitors are built in China now, mackie, krk > etc... So hardly a shady tactic and not a copycat. I wish everything could > be built in the country it was designed but, well... > > The dsp thing is a guess and really does it matter if it sounds good? A > lot of high end monitors contain dsp. > > If anything genelecs seem way over priced to me, like they're the ones > taking the piss out of us. 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URL: From peter at severity-one.com Sun Sep 14 01:11:22 2014 From: peter at severity-one.com (Peter Korsten) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 01:11:22 +0200 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: <540C974E.5010602@entity.net> References: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> <019901cfca75$83a35ea0$8aea1be0$@punkdisco.co.uk> <540C974E.5010602@entity.net> Message-ID: <5414CF1A.1030808@severity-one.com> Tony Hardie-Bick schreef op 7-9-2014 19:35: > On 07/09/14 09:27, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO wrote: >> Flip Peter - just read this.. Not a great way to spend you holiday.. >> >> Really hope Yana made a speedy recovery and all is on the way to getting >> better.. > wow - yeah - i hope yana gets better soon. Just a quick update then. We went to see a specialist (friend of her brother's) the day after we arrived, had an MRI scan on Tuesday (private insurance, otherwise it would have taken ages) and went to see the specialist again on Thursday. Today she had the first physiotherapy (best friend of her brothers; you're probably noticing a trend here). It's a small tear in her cartilage, so things could have been worse. She's no longer using the crutches (or "clutches", as our son calls them), but going up and down the stairs is still too ambitious. Another disadvantage is that I'm forced to drive her in her own car, a rather crappy 10 year old Renault Clio diesel, instead of my own, smooth, 1 year old but unfortunately rather low Open Astra GTC turbo petrol. We all have to make sacrifices. ;-) Our son has proven himself an excellent little boy, helping Mummy, chopping up vegetables, and so on. So all in all, things could have been better, but they could have been a lot worse as well. - Peter From seclorum at mac.com Sun Sep 14 11:31:55 2014 From: seclorum at mac.com (Jay Vaughan) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 11:31:55 +0200 Subject: My New Monitors: Equator D8 In-Reply-To: References: <008a01cfcf29$0c070870$24151950$@punkdisco.co.uk> <652A1D43-5150-4A45-8C15-24A7B755D5BB@waf80.de> Message-ID: <34E59695-3769-4D1C-8726-4888836D2C6A@mac.com> > Actually I forgot another important distinction, with the D8s I can hear so much more of the effects of two important processing items: a compressor and equalizer. It's so nice to be able to detect the minute changes in the controls be so clearly audible from the speakers. Outstanding. I for one welcome your new monitor overlords and would like to remind them that, as an eager fan of everyone on this list, I?m in the perfect position to be a recipient of new mixes when they?re ready. I?ll let you know what your mixes sound like, as a devoted servant, on the following: Genelec 8040?s, Grado headphones, cheapo USB-powered mini-crap speakers, and whatever it is in the car .. for, after all, that is the purpose of reference speakers - to give you a stable environment to mix, and then understand in relation to all the other shitty speakers on which your musical masterpieces will be subjected for perception. j. From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sun Sep 14 15:23:53 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO) Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 14:23:53 +0100 Subject: London micro-meet In-Reply-To: <5414CF1A.1030808@severity-one.com> References: <20140901215639.964C8B23DC@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> <5404F1D3.3060507@entity.net> <540A530C.3000106@severity-one.com> <019901cfca75$83a35ea0$8aea1be0$@punkdisco.co.uk> <540C974E.5010602@entity.net> <5414CF1A.1030808@severity-one.com> Message-ID: Nice progress, Peter. Send our regards. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: "Peter Korsten" Sent: ?14/?09/?2014 00:11 To: "Music-bar" Subject: Re: London micro-meet Tony Hardie-Bick schreef op 7-9-2014 19:35: > On 07/09/14 09:27, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO wrote: >> Flip Peter - just read this.. Not a great way to spend you holiday.. >> >> Really hope Yana made a speedy recovery and all is on the way to getting >> better.. > wow - yeah - i hope yana gets better soon. Just a quick update then. We went to see a specialist (friend of her brother's) the day after we arrived, had an MRI scan on Tuesday (private insurance, otherwise it would have taken ages) and went to see the specialist again on Thursday. Today she had the first physiotherapy (best friend of her brothers; you're probably noticing a trend here). It's a small tear in her cartilage, so things could have been worse. She's no longer using the crutches (or "clutches", as our son calls them), but going up and down the stairs is still too ambitious. Another disadvantage is that I'm forced to drive her in her own car, a rather crappy 10 year old Renault Clio diesel, instead of my own, smooth, 1 year old but unfortunately rather low Open Astra GTC turbo petrol. We all have to make sacrifices. ;-) Our son has proven himself an excellent little boy, helping Mummy, chopping up vegetables, and so on. So all in all, things could have been better, but they could have been a lot worse as well. - Peter _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Tony From: xtechcode at gmail.com Subject: Moog sub 37 Sounds Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:56:57 +0200 To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org Hi guys, Just found the Moog Sub37? presets on youtube :) Curious ? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjdv1w81tUY Have nice day, Romain _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Fri Sep 19 08:50:30 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2014 07:50:30 +0100 Subject: Moog sub 37 Sounds In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have not played one but it seems to be worlds apart from what Moog have previously done. I could easily imagine owning one but not room and way to many monos already.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: "Tony Scharf" Sent: ?18/?09/?2014 13:50 To: "Music-bar" Subject: RE: Moog sub 37 Sounds I played one at knobcon this weekend and I was really impressed! It's the first Moog that's done that to me in a while. Tony From: xtechcode at gmail.com Subject: Moog sub 37 Sounds Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:56:57 +0200 To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org Hi guys, Just found the Moog Sub37? presets on youtube :) Curious ? :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjdv1w81tUY Have nice day, Romain _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was > to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and > it didn't need a manual to master. > > Tony > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > From canine at waf80.de Sat Sep 20 02:19:16 2014 From: canine at waf80.de (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 02:19:16 +0200 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <71CB5E60-52C2-4D60-9AEA-FB93B7194311@waf80.de> I am very happy with my yocto, especially now that I got a metal case for it. And also the kick decay mod that gives me infinite bass...;-) Sent from my phone On 19.09.2014, at 22:55, Ron West wrote: > I recently bought back my 808 from a friend after stupidly selling it. :-) > > On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 4:37 PM, Tony Scharf > wrote: >> I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at >> home. >> >> Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was >> to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and >> it didn't need a manual to master. >> >> Tony >> >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sat Sep 20 09:53:38 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:53:38 +0100 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <050401cfd4a7$ffdc0530$ff940f90$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hi Ron > I recently bought back my 808 from a friend after stupidly selling it. :-) Im glad he agreed to sell it back to you :) How long did he have it for and did this little back track cost you more money? Glad your 808 is back with daddy.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sat Sep 20 09:55:46 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hah!! Good one, Tony.. I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore.. Let us know once you get it.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk From: Tony Scharf [mailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com] Sent: 19 September 2014 21:37 To: Music-bar Subject: Roland TR-8 I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home. Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. Tony -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sat Sep 20 09:57:23 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:57:23 +0100 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: <71CB5E60-52C2-4D60-9AEA-FB93B7194311@waf80.de> References: <71CB5E60-52C2-4D60-9AEA-FB93B7194311@waf80.de> Message-ID: <052001cfd4a8$85bca240$9135e6c0$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hey Kai > I am very happy with my yocto, especially now that I got a metal case for it. > And also the kick decay mod that gives me infinite bass...;-) That thing is a beast!! Just listening to this and sounds pretty good to me.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XpZWA6oTr4 Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk From xtechcode at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 12:42:37 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:42:37 +0200 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: <71CB5E60-52C2-4D60-9AEA-FB93B7194311@waf80.de> References: <71CB5E60-52C2-4D60-9AEA-FB93B7194311@waf80.de> Message-ID: <170E64D3-8FE4-46C8-92C7-EF8035C76A89@gmail.com> I tried one Tr8 few month ago and i wasn t convince... I like very much all the blinking lights, the Scatter fx is fun too ? in another hand there are couple of stuff missing imo : "no save button, can t copy pattern between A and B, can t record interment in play mode, etc ? Also I was bored very quickly by the TB3 ? So I read Kai finished to mount his yocto ? Do you have a small demo Kai ? :) Noone tried by any chance the Akai Wolf yet ? 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URL: From xtechcode at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 12:51:32 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:51:32 +0200 Subject: Moog sub 37 Sounds In-Reply-To: <20140919064709.59626B23DD@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> References: <20140919064709.59626B23DD@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> Message-ID: <9AE65F05-6D88-4A24-8BE7-77CBCE56C104@gmail.com> You can always move to another room no ? :) my living room is not a living room anymore ;) On 19 Sep 2014, at 08:50, punkdISCO wrote: > I have not played one but it seems to be worlds apart from what Moog have previously done. I could easily imagine owning one but not room and way to many monos already.. > > > Paul > London > www.punkdisco.co.uk > From: Tony Scharf > Sent: ?18/?09/?2014 13:50 > To: Music-bar > Subject: RE: Moog sub 37 Sounds > > I played one at knobcon this weekend and I was really impressed! It's the first Moog that's done that to me in a while. > > Tony > > From: xtechcode at gmail.com > Subject: Moog sub 37 Sounds > Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2014 13:56:57 +0200 > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > > Hi guys, > > Just found the Moog Sub37? presets on youtube :) > > Curious ? :) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjdv1w81tUY > > Have nice day, > > Romain > > > _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ronwest at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 12:55:37 2014 From: ronwest at gmail.com (Ron West) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 06:55:37 -0400 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: <050401cfd4a7$ffdc0530$ff940f90$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: <050401cfd4a7$ffdc0530$ff940f90$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: He had it for about 5 years and yea, it cost me a bit more to get it back but the price was much lower than the current market rate. He could have gotten a lot more had he sold it on eBay/Craigslist. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 3:53 AM, foRUMS 4 punkdISCO wrote: > Hi Ron > >> I recently bought back my 808 from a friend after stupidly selling it. :-) > > Im glad he agreed to sell it back to you :) How long did he have it for and > did this little back track cost you more money? > > Glad your 808 is back with daddy.. > > Paul > London > www.punkdisco.co.uk > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From noisetheorem at outlook.com Sat Sep 20 17:06:55 2014 From: noisetheorem at outlook.com (Tony Scharf) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 10:06:55 -0500 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk> References: , <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: I felt that way too...but then I realized that I was totally and completely missing the point on the TR8. The TR8 was not designed from the position of 'lets make cool sounds and then figure out an interface for playing them'. It was built from 'lets make this thing playable and then worry about the sounds'. Its an absolute fucking kick to play! All operations can be performed with the sequence running, and it's amazing just how fun it is to have one pattern you start with and build. Its designed to be an instrument you become a virtuoso at playing in the way that guitars basically have the same base sound, but the player makes the difference. It's a cool thing to see come out in 2014. My only real gripe is that it only has 4 audio outputs (stereo + two assignable). I can forgive that, though, because via USB every instrument has it's own track. There is also no song mode which I would normally whine about...but I don't because that's not the point. The point is to hook USB to your DAW and record a performance. You don't like he stock sounds? MIDI out to a sampler or drum plugin. Think of it this way: This is an awesome performance interface with some sounds thrown into it rather than an emulation of a classic. Also, I did talk to the roland rep and he said he couldn't comment to dates but they were looking at 606 and 707 sound sets to add. What killed the JoMoX? The shitty interface. Why don't I own a MachineDrum? because while making cool noises, it's just not fun. The TR8 is fun and a fraction of the cost of those boxes! I've become a total convert. Roland did this right. Tony From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org Subject: RE: Roland TR-8 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100 Hah!! Good one, Tony.. I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore.. Let us know once you get it.. PaulLondonwww.punkdisco.co.uk From: Tony Scharf [m ailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com] Sent: 19 September 2014 21:37 To: Music-bar Subject: Roland TR-8 I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home. Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. Tony _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 17:57:47 2014 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:57:47 -0400 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1? I thought about getting one but it seemed too limited in terms of sounds for the space it takes up. And using it just as a sequencer for other sounds seems like a hassle, having to map the knobs etc... It seems cool if you're just starting out, going minimal, or have the space for a "fool around" box. Is it really that fun that it can find a place in a studio full of other stuff? I am in the market for a real hardware drum machine with sounds, I have an EMX (had it forever,) xbase09 (not fun interface, limited sounds,) Volca (snare blows without mod.) Also MPC2500, not counting this as it's a sampler and not counting maschine cuz software. I narrowed to wanting either a tempest or analog rytm, decided on the rytm but it's too expensive for my budget right now. > On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > I felt that way too...but then I realized that I was totally and completely missing the point on the TR8. > > The TR8 was not designed from the position of 'lets make cool sounds and then figure out an interface for playing them'. It was built from 'lets make this thing playable and then worry about the sounds'. Its an absolute fucking kick to play! All operations can be performed with the sequence running, and it's amazing just how fun it is to have one pattern you start with and build. Its designed to be an instrument you become a virtuoso at playing in the way that guitars basically have the same base sound, but the player makes the difference. It's a cool thing to see come out in 2014. > > My only real gripe is that it only has 4 audio outputs (stereo + two assignable). I can forgive that, though, because via USB every instrument has it's own track. There is also no song mode which I would normally whine about...but I don't because that's not the point. The point is to hook USB to your DAW and record a performance. You don't like he stock sounds? MIDI out to a sampler or drum plugin. > > Think of it this way: This is an awesome performance interface with some sounds thrown into it rather than an emulation of a classic. > > Also, I did talk to the roland rep and he said he couldn't comment to dates but they were looking at 606 and 707 sound sets to add. > > What killed the JoMoX? The shitty interface. Why don't I own a MachineDrum? because while making cool noises, it's just not fun. The TR8 is fun and a fraction of the cost of those boxes! > > I've become a total convert. Roland did this right. > > Tony > > From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > Subject: RE: Roland TR-8 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100 > > Hah!! Good one, Tony.. > > > > I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore.. > > > > Let us know once you get it.. > > > > Paul > > London > > www.punkdisco.co.uk > > > > From: Tony Scharf [m ailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com] > Sent: 19 September 2014 21:37 > To: Music-bar > Subject: Roland TR-8 > > > > I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home. > > > > Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. > > > > Tony > > > _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From seclorum at mac.com Sat Sep 20 19:12:03 2014 From: seclorum at mac.com (Jay Vaughan) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 19:12:03 +0200 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: > I've become a total convert. Roland did this right. > Tony That?s great to hear - I must admit I?d discounted this device, but its cool to hear you?re getting so much out of it Tony .. j. From noisetheorem at outlook.com Sat Sep 20 19:34:14 2014 From: noisetheorem at outlook.com (Tony Scharf) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 12:34:14 -0500 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: , <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk>, , Message-ID: "So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1?" Simplicity. To do a lot of things, you do have to stop the sequencer to perform an action. Is it the only drum machine you're going to want? Probably not. But it has flow (for lack of a better term). It has one kit...with one fx setup...with 16 a/b patterns in memory. I am impressed by any device that requires 0 learning curve. Its like the exact opposite of the Elektron kit (a Pozitron! see what I did there..). And this is something for whoever it was who said they don't like sampled drums because of the repetitive nature of the static sounds. The TR8 is *not* static. You can here the subtle shifts. The patterns just sound 'alive'. I can tell the difference between it's sound and samples. I didn't expect to like it when I went to the Roland booth. I expected to strengthen my resolve in dismissing it. The exact opposite happened. Nerd Audio had an analogue Rytm near it. I still may add one of those at some point....but for now, this will play magic with my octatrack. Tony Subject: Re: Roland TR-8 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:57:47 -0400 To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1? I thought about getting one but it seemed too limited in terms of sounds for the space it takes up. And using it just as a sequencer for other sounds seems like a hassle, having to map the knobs etc... It seems cool if you're just starting out, going minimal, or have the space for a "fool around" box. Is it really that fun that it can find a place in a studio full of other stuff? I am in the market for a real hardware drum machine with sounds, I have an EMX (had it forever,) xbase09 (not fun interface, limited sounds,) Volca (snare blows without mod.) Also MPC2500, not counting this as it's a sampler and not counting maschine cuz software. I narrowed to wanting either a tempest or analog rytm, decided on the rytm but it's too expensive for my budget right now. On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Tony Scharf wrote: I felt that way too...but then I realized that I was totally and completely missing the point on the TR8. The TR8 was not designed from the position of 'lets make cool sounds and then figure out an interface for playing them'. It was built from 'lets make this thing playable and then worry about the sounds'. Its an absolute fucking kick to play! All operations can be performed with the sequence running, and it's amazing just how fun it is to have one pattern you start with and build. Its designed to be an instrum ent you become a virtuoso at playing in the way that guitars basically have the same base sound, but the player makes the difference. It's a cool thing to see come out in 2014. My only real gripe is that it only has 4 audio outputs (stereo + two assignable). I can forgive that, though, because via USB every instrument has it's own track. There is also no song mode which I would normally whine about...but I don't because that's not the point. The point is to hook USB to your DAW and record a performance. You don't like he stock sounds? MIDI out to a sampler or drum plugin. Think of it this way: This is an awesome performance interface with some sounds thrown into it rather than an emulation of a classic. Also, I did talk to the roland rep and he said he couldn't comment to dates but they were looking at 606 and 707 sound sets to add. What killed the JoMoX? The shitty interface. Why don't I own a MachineDrum? because while making cool noises, it's just not fun. The TR8 is fun and a fraction of the cost of those boxes! I've become a total convert. Roland did this right. Tony From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org Subject: RE: Roland TR-8 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100 Hah!! Good one, Tony.. I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore.. Let us know once you get it.. PaulLondonwww.punkdisco.co.uk From: Tony Scharf [m ailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com] Sent: 19 September 2014 21:37 To: Music-bar Subject: Roland TR-8 I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home. Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. Tony _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list m usic-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Sat Sep 20 19:54:22 2014 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 13:54:22 -0400 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <4E8CBA5A-E37E-445E-8101-8B50B28928B2@gmail.com> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... Sent from my iPad > On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > "So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1?" > > Simplicity. To do a lot of things, you do have to stop the sequencer to perform an action. > > Is it the only drum machine you're going to want? Probably not. But it has flow (for lack of a better term). It has one kit...with one fx setup...with 16 a/b patterns in memory. I am impressed by any device that requires 0 learning curve. Its like the exact opposite of the Elektron kit (a Pozitron! see what I did there..). > > And this is something for whoever it was who said they don't like sampled drums because of the repetitive nature of the static sounds. The TR8 is *not* static. You can here the subtle shifts. The patterns just sound 'alive'. I can tell the difference between it's sound and samples. > > I didn't expect to like it when I went to the Roland booth. I expected to strengthen my resolve in dismissing it. The exact opposite happened. > > Nerd Audio had an analogue Rytm near it. I still may add one of those at some point....but for now, this will play magic with my octatrack. > > Tony > > Subject: Re: Roland TR-8 > From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:57:47 -0400 > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > > So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1? > > I thought about getting one but it seemed too limited in terms of sounds for the space it takes up. And using it just as a sequencer for other sounds seems like a hassle, having to map the knobs etc... It seems cool if you're just starting out, going minimal, or have the space for a "fool around" box. Is it really that fun that it can find a place in a studio full of other stuff? > > I am in the market for a real hardware drum machine with sounds, I have an EMX (had it forever,) xbase09 (not fun interface, limited sounds,) Volca (snare blows without mod.) Also MPC2500, not counting this as it's a sampler and not counting maschine cuz software. I narrowed to wanting either a tempest or analog rytm, decided on the rytm but it's too expensive for my budget right now. > > On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > I felt that way too...but then I realized that I was totally and completely missing the point on the TR8. > > The TR8 was not designed from the position of 'lets make cool sounds and then figure out an interface for playing them'. It was built from 'lets make this thing playable and then worry about the sounds'. Its an absolute fucking kick to play! All operations can be performed with the sequence running, and it's amazing just how fun it is to have one pattern you start with and build. Its designed to be an instrum ent you become a virtuoso at playing in the way that guitars basically have the same base sound, but the player makes the difference. It's a cool thing to see come out in 2014. > > My only real gripe is that it only has 4 audio outputs (stereo + two assignable). I can forgive that, though, because via USB every instrument has it's own track. There is also no song mode which I would normally whine about...but I don't because that's not the point. The point is to hook USB to your DAW and record a performance. You don't like he stock sounds? MIDI out to a sampler or drum plugin. > > Think of it this way: This is an awesome performance interface with some sounds thrown into it rather than an emulation of a classic. > > Also, I did talk to the roland rep and he said he couldn't comment to dates but they were looking at 606 and 707 sound sets to add. > > What killed the JoMoX? The shitty interface. Why don't I own a MachineDrum? because while making cool noises, it's just not fun. The TR8 is fun and a fraction of the cost of those boxes! > > I've become a total convert. Roland did this right. > > Tony > > From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > Subject: RE: Roland TR-8 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100 > > Hah!! Good one, Tony.. > > > > I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore.. > > > > Let us know once you get it.. > > > > Paul > > London > > www.punkdisco.co.uk > > > > From: Tony Scharf [m ailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com] > Sent: 19 September 2014 21:37 > To: Music-bar > Subject: Roland TR-8 > > > > I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home. > > > > Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. > > > > Tony > > > _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > > _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list m usic-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sat Sep 20 22:23:02 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 21:23:02 +0100 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: <050401cfd4a7$ffdc0530$ff940f90$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <071d01cfd510$afcb6810$0f623830$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hi Ron > He had it for about 5 years and yea, it cost me a bit more to get it back but > the price was much lower than the current market rate. He could have > gotten a lot more had he sold it on eBay/Craigslist. That's good to hear.. He sounds like a good guy.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Sun Sep 21 09:46:40 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (foRUMS 4 punkdISCO) Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2014 08:46:40 +0100 Subject: Moog sub 37 Sounds In-Reply-To: <9AE65F05-6D88-4A24-8BE7-77CBCE56C104@gmail.com> References: <20140919064709.59626B23DD@joostschuttelaar.xlshosting.com> <9AE65F05-6D88-4A24-8BE7-77CBCE56C104@gmail.com> Message-ID: <078801cfd570$30eaee70$92c0cb50$@punkdisco.co.uk> Hey Rom > You can always move to another room no ? :) > my living room is not a living room anymore ;) Ha, yeah.. :) Im always thinking of ways to expand but I have way too much gear anyway so Im not that fussed about being at my space capacity.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk From deeplfo at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 19:10:01 2014 From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:10:01 -0700 Subject: Jay Speaker Test Message-ID: So Jay, how did that track sound on the set of devices you were going to test it out on :-) ? Cheers, Mohsen From moron at industrial.org Mon Sep 22 19:18:22 2014 From: moron at industrial.org (moron) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 10:18:22 -0700 Subject: Blue Lantern is the man - Dwarf Star Message-ID: <1411406302.1605.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Wish I had the disposable cash at the moment to journey to the Dwarf Star: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/301259353507 Seeing built in momentary buttons to trigger envelopes always makes me happy. Cheers -- http://industrial.org http://deterrent.net http://nearlydead.bandcamp.com Whomever dies with the most URLs wins!!!!!!!!!!!!! From ibisum at gmail.com Mon Sep 22 22:25:16 2014 From: ibisum at gmail.com (Ibi Sum) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 22:25:16 +0200 Subject: Blue Lantern is the man - Dwarf Star In-Reply-To: <1411406302.1605.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> References: <1411406302.1605.4.camel@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: Very, very tempting. ; -- seclorum > On Sep 22, 2014, at 19:18, moron wrote: > > Wish I had the disposable cash at the moment to journey to the Dwarf > Star: > > http://www.ebay.ca/itm/301259353507 > > Seeing built in momentary buttons to trigger envelopes always makes me > happy. > > Cheers > > -- > http://industrial.org > http://deterrent.net > http://nearlydead.bandcamp.com > Whomever dies with the most URLs wins!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From seclorum at mac.com Mon Sep 22 22:26:34 2014 From: seclorum at mac.com (Jay Vaughan) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 22:26:34 +0200 Subject: Jay Speaker Test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1D369CED-FB1A-4AAF-8471-72E63C44271C@mac.com> Going to work on it tomorrow .. Got as far as the genelecs .. Where it sounded "great" .. But then promptly forgot to test all the other devices in the promised list. Will work it out this week. ; -- seclorum > On Sep 22, 2014, at 19:10, deeplfo wrote: > > So Jay, how did that track sound on the set of devices you were going to test it out on :-) ? > > Cheers, > Mohsen > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From deeplfo at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 01:19:03 2014 From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2014 16:19:03 -0700 Subject: Jay Speaker Test In-Reply-To: <1D369CED-FB1A-4AAF-8471-72E63C44271C@mac.com> References: <1D369CED-FB1A-4AAF-8471-72E63C44271C@mac.com> Message-ID: Awesome. Cheers man. Mohsen On Sep 22, 2014, at 1:26 PM, Jay Vaughan wrote: > Going to work on it tomorrow .. Got as far as the genelecs .. Where it sounded "great" .. But then promptly forgot to test all the other devices in the promised list. Will work it out this week. > > ; > -- > seclorum > >> On Sep 22, 2014, at 19:10, deeplfo wrote: >> >> So Jay, how did that track sound on the set of devices you were going to test it out on :-) ? >> >> Cheers, >> Mohsen >> _______________________________________________ >> music-bar mailing list >> music-bar at lists.music-bar.org >> http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Tue Sep 23 18:45:36 2014 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com (Andrew Tarpinian) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:45:36 -0400 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: References: <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk> Message-ID: <9A0FF3EB-09C0-43B0-853D-66C59C6485E5@gmail.com> Just watched the SH-2 plug out sonic state review, I have to say it sounds damn good. And available without the hardware too, cool, official Roland plugins for all. Just when I see the scatter bit in the hardware it makes me sad inside. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > "So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1?" > > Simplicity. To do a lot of things, you do have to stop the sequencer to perform an action. > > Is it the only drum machine you're going to want? Probably not. But it has flow (for lack of a better term). It has one kit...with one fx setup...with 16 a/b patterns in memory. I am impressed by any device that requires 0 learning curve. Its like the exact opposite of the Elektron kit (a Pozitron! see what I did there..). > > And this is something for whoever it was who said they don't like sampled drums because of the repetitive nature of the static sounds. The TR8 is *not* static. You can here the subtle shifts. The patterns just sound 'alive'. I can tell the difference between it's sound and samples. > > I didn't expect to like it when I went to the Roland booth. I expected to strengthen my resolve in dismissing it. The exact opposite happened. > > Nerd Audio had an analogue Rytm near it. I still may add one of those at some point....but for now, this will play magic with my octatrack. > > Tony > > Subject: Re: Roland TR-8 > From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:57:47 -0400 > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > > So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1? > > I thought about getting one but it seemed too limited in terms of sounds for the space it takes up. And using it just as a sequencer for other sounds seems like a hassle, having to map the knobs etc... It seems cool if you're just starting out, going minimal, or have the space for a "fool around" box. Is it really that fun that it can find a place in a studio full of other stuff? > > I am in the market for a real hardware drum machine with sounds, I have an EMX (had it forever,) xbase09 (not fun interface, limited sounds,) Volca (snare blows without mod.) Also MPC2500, not counting this as it's a sampler and not counting maschine cuz software. I narrowed to wanting either a tempest or analog rytm, decided on the rytm but it's too expensive for my budget right now. > > On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Tony Scharf wrote: > > I felt that way too...but then I realized that I was totally and completely missing the point on the TR8. > > The TR8 was not designed from the position of 'lets make cool sounds and then figure out an interface for playing them'. It was built from 'lets make this thing playable and then worry about the sounds'. Its an absolute fucking kick to play! All operations can be performed with the sequence running, and it's amazing just how fun it is to have one pattern you start with and build. Its designed to be an instrum ent you become a virtuoso at playing in the way that guitars basically have the same base sound, but the player makes the difference. It's a cool thing to see come out in 2014. > > My only real gripe is that it only has 4 audio outputs (stereo + two assignable). I can forgive that, though, because via USB every instrument has it's own track. There is also no song mode which I would normally whine about...but I don't because that's not the point. The point is to hook USB to your DAW and record a performance. You don't like he stock sounds? MIDI out to a sampler or drum plugin. > > Think of it this way: This is an awesome performance interface with some sounds thrown into it rather than an emulation of a classic. > > Also, I did talk to the roland rep and he said he couldn't comment to dates but they were looking at 606 and 707 sound sets to add. > > What killed the JoMoX? The shitty interface. Why don't I own a MachineDrum? because while making cool noises, it's just not fun. The TR8 is fun and a fraction of the cost of those boxes! > > I've become a total convert. Roland did this right. > > Tony > > From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk > To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > Subject: RE: Roland TR-8 > Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100 > > Hah!! Good one, Tony.. > > > > I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore.. > > > > Let us know once you get it.. > > > > Paul > > London > > www.punkdisco.co.uk > > > > From: Tony Scharf [m ailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com] > Sent: 19 September 2014 21:37 > To: Music-bar > Subject: Roland TR-8 > > > > I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home. > > > > Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. > > > > Tony > > > _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > > _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list m usic-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From noisetheorem at outlook.com Tue Sep 23 19:13:03 2014 From: noisetheorem at outlook.com (Tony Scharf) Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:13:03 -0500 Subject: Roland TR-8 In-Reply-To: <9A0FF3EB-09C0-43B0-853D-66C59C6485E5@gmail.com> References: , <050601cfd4a8$4bfe3960$e3faac20$@punkdisco.co.uk>, , , , <9A0FF3EB-09C0-43B0-853D-66C59C6485E5@gmail.com> Message-ID: "Just when I see the scatter bit in the hardware it makes me sad inside. " Well..it is Roland. Scatter is the new DBeam Tony From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Subject: Re: Roland TR-8 Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2014 12:45:36 -0400 To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org Just watched the SH-2 plug out sonic state review, I have to say it sounds damn good. And available without the hardware too, cool, official Roland plugins for all. Just when I see the scatter bit in the hardware it makes me sad inside. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 20, 2014, at 1:34 PM, Tony Scharf wrote: "So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1?" Simplicity. To do a lot of things, you do have to stop the sequencer to perform an action. Is it the only drum machine you're going to want? Probably not. But it has flow (for lack of a better term). It has one kit...with one fx setup...with 16 a/b patterns in memory. I am impressed by any device that requires 0 learning curve. Its like the exact opposite of the Elektron kit (a Pozitron! see what I did there..). And this is something for whoever it was who said they don't like sampled drums because of the repetitive nature of the static sounds. The TR8 is *not* static. You can here the subtle shifts. The patterns just sound 'alive'. I can tell the difference between it's sound and samples. I didn't expect to like it when I went to the Roland booth. I expected to strengthen my resolve in dismissing it. The exact opposite happened. Nerd Audio had an analogue Rytm near it. I still may add one of those at some point....but for now, this will play magic with my octatrack. Tony Subject: Re: Roland TR-8 From: andrewtarpinian at gmail.com Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 11:57:47 -0400 To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org So why is it better than say the electribe EMX-1? I thought about getting one but it seemed too limited in terms of sounds for the space it takes up. And using it just as a sequencer for other sounds seems like a hassle, having to map the knobs etc... It seems cool if you're just s tarting out, going minimal, or have the space for a "fool around" box. Is it really that fun that it can find a place in a studio full of other stuff? I am in the market for a real hardware drum machine with sounds, I have an EMX (had it forever,) xbase09 (not fun interface, limited sounds,) Volca (snare blows without mod.) Also MPC2500, not counting this as it's a sampler and not counting maschine cuz software. I narrowed to wanting either a tempest or analog rytm, decided on the rytm but it's too expensive for my budget right now. On Sep 20, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Tony Scharf wrote: I felt that way too...but then I realized that I was totally and completely missing the point on the TR8. The TR8 was not designed from the position of 'lets make cool sounds and then figure out an interface for playing them'. It was built from 'lets make this thing playable and then worry about the sounds'. Its an absolute fucking kick to play! All operations can be performed with the sequence running, and it's amazing just how fun it is to have one pattern you start with and build. Its designed to be an instrum ent you become a virtuoso at playing in the way that guitars basically have the same base sound, but the player makes the difference. It's a cool thing to see come out in 2014. My only real gripe is that it only has 4 audio outputs (stereo + two assignable). I can forgive that, though, because via USB every instrument has it's own track. There is also no song mode which I would normally whine about...but I don't because that's not t he point. The point is to hook USB to your DAW and record a performance. You don't like he stock sounds? MIDI out to a sampler or drum plugin. Think of it this way: This is an awesome performance interface with some sounds thrown into it rather than an emulation of a classic. Also, I did talk to the roland rep and he said he couldn't comment to dates but they were looking at 606 and 707 sound sets to add. What killed the JoMoX? The shitty interface. Why don't I own a MachineDrum? because while making cool noises, it's just not fun. The TR8 is fun and a fraction of the cost of those boxes! I've become a total convert. Roland did this right. Tony From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk To: music-bar at lists.music-bar.org Subject: RE: Roland TR-8 Date: Sat, 20 Sep 2014 08:55:46 +0100 Ha h!! Good one, Tony.. I think I will be tempted IF they bring out more models. In not really into stock 808/909 but if they bring out other machines, Im sure it will make it harder for me to ignore.. Let us know once you get it.. PaulLondonwww.punkdisco.co.uk From: Tony Scharf [m ailto:entropymagnet at noisetheorem.com] Sent: 19 September 2014 21:37 To: Music-bar Subject: Roland TR-8 I played one at KnobCon and immediately caved. It's waiting for me at home. Anyone else take the leap? I was absolutely stunned at how intuitive it was to actually perform with. You could almost operate it without thinking and it didn't need a manual to master. 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URL: From deeplfo at gmail.com Fri Sep 26 00:13:19 2014 From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo) Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2014 15:13:19 -0700 Subject: Joost (and all): Recommended Listening List Message-ID: I owed Joost this a while ago: 1) He's back: Aphex Twin: http://boomkat.com/downloads/1109580-aphex-twin-syro 2) Airhead: http://boomkat.com/downloads/1059141-airhead-october-macondo. Nice bass music, say no more. 3) Absorbing tech stuff from Lee Gamble: http://boomkat.com/downloads/1096122-lee-gamble-koch. 4) Joost's compatriot Martyn: http://boomkat.com/downloads/985006-martyn-the-air-between-words 5) One of my favorite beats albums of the year Throwing Snow: http://boomkat.com/downloads/994120-throwing-snow-mosaic 6) Quirky electronics from Deft: http://boomkat.com/downloads/971410-deft-always-greener 7) Not new, but I love music from this era: Hency Mancini: http://www.amazon.com/8-Classic-Albums-Henry-Mancini/dp/B00GMVZGCS/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1411682599&sr=8-4&keywords=mancini 8) I love good Bass music, Peverlist: http://boomkat.com/vinyl/500441-peverelist-salt-water-erosions 9) Minimalist bass music: Side9000: http://boomkat.com/downloads/1011337-side9000-sentinel 10) From Tokyo, ambient bass music: ENA: http://boomkat.com/downloads/916388-ena-bilateral Happy listening. Mohsen -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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(25/10/2014) > > Would be nice to see other barians there ?? > > Cheers.! > > Romain > :) > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl Sat Sep 27 21:13:51 2014 From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:13:51 +0200 Subject: Joost (and all): Recommended Listening List In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8829999A-D0FE-4E18-B0C0-B636ADF82438@joostschuttelaar.nl> On 26 sep. 2014, at 00:13, deeplfo wrote: > Happy listening. Very cool. Enjoying the new Aphex Twin. Listening right now to Koch from Lee Gamble. -- Joost Schuttelaar The Hague, NL From joost at joostschuttelaar.nl Sat Sep 27 21:16:54 2014 From: joost at joostschuttelaar.nl (Joost Schuttelaar) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:16:54 +0200 Subject: Ozric Tentacles Melkweg Amsterdam 25/10/2014 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <19E039A0-04DF-445B-802F-6406459E042F@joostschuttelaar.nl> On 27 sep. 2014, at 16:14, Rom MUSIC BAR wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ozric+tentacle > > Always wanted to see them, and this time I m glad that I won t miss their gig !!! > ticket 11.50 euro only, they ll play in Melkweg Amsterdam ! (25/10/2014) Hmm, yeah, looks cool. See you this Friday by the way man! Put me on the guest list (Romain's playin' in Metropool with his synthpop band). -- Joost Schuttelaar The Hague, NL From kai at kainiggemann.com Sat Sep 27 21:21:06 2014 From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 21:21:06 +0200 Subject: WDR Studio Elektronische Musik Message-ID: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> Today i had a chance to visit the studio Elektronische Musik, not the same place, but the equipment that stockhausen, eimert, kagel, McGuire, and many many more composers worked on. I thought we'd get a tour and a talk. Instead we did a 5 hour jam session on reel to reels, sine generators, impulse generators, radios, ring modulators and even the EMS vocoder. Maybe you guys can imagine what it feels like... I'm completely exhausted and very humbled and happy. What an incredible day...! Yes. We recorded. A LOT. I will post some stuff...!;) Sent from my phone From g.vansanten at upcmail.nl Sat Sep 27 23:07:43 2014 From: g.vansanten at upcmail.nl (Gert van Santen) Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2014 23:07:43 +0200 Subject: WDR Studio Elektronische Musik In-Reply-To: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> References: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> Message-ID: <5427271F.8090502@upcmail.nl> K9 Kai Niggemann schreef op 27-9-2014 21:21: > Yes. We recorded. A LOT. I will post some stuff...!;) Wow! Must have been awesome. I'm glad you had such a good time, and looking forward to the jam. :-) -- Gert gert van santen www.gertvansanten.nl From xtechcode at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 11:29:12 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 11:29:12 +0200 Subject: Ozric Tentacles Melkweg Amsterdam 25/10/2014 In-Reply-To: <19E039A0-04DF-445B-802F-6406459E042F@joostschuttelaar.nl> References: <19E039A0-04DF-445B-802F-6406459E042F@joostschuttelaar.nl> Message-ID: <2A2300C1-1019-4A46-9E0E-6198618E4260@gmail.com> Hi Joost I think it shouldn' t be a problem, but this night Heliophile will play only two songs, I don t know if it s worth the travel ? all in all I will be very happy to see you of course ! :) On 27 Sep 2014, at 21:16, Joost Schuttelaar wrote: > On 27 sep. 2014, at 16:14, Rom MUSIC BAR wrote: > >> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ozric+tentacle >> >> Always wanted to see them, and this time I m glad that I won t miss their gig !!! >> ticket 11.50 euro only, they ll play in Melkweg Amsterdam ! (25/10/2014) > > Hmm, yeah, looks cool. See you this Friday by the way man! Put me on the guest list (Romain's playin' in Metropool with his synthpop band). > > -- > > Joost Schuttelaar > The Hague, NL > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From deeplfo at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 21:02:14 2014 From: deeplfo at gmail.com (deeplfo) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 12:02:14 -0700 Subject: WDR Studio Elektronische Musik In-Reply-To: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> References: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> Message-ID: Nice. Looking forward to some clips :-) Mohsen On Sat, Sep 27, 2014 at 12:21 PM, K9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > Today i had a chance to visit the studio Elektronische Musik, not the same > place, but the equipment that stockhausen, eimert, kagel, McGuire, and many > many more composers worked on. > > I thought we'd get a tour and a talk. Instead we did a 5 hour jam session > on reel to reels, sine generators, impulse generators, radios, ring > modulators and even the EMS vocoder. > > Maybe you guys can imagine what it feels like... I'm completely exhausted > and very humbled and happy. What an incredible day...! > > Yes. We recorded. A LOT. I will post some stuff...!;) > > > > > > Sent from my phone > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xtechcode at gmail.com Sun Sep 28 21:04:48 2014 From: xtechcode at gmail.com (Rom MUSIC BAR) Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2014 21:04:48 +0200 Subject: WDR Studio Elektronische Musik In-Reply-To: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> References: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> Message-ID: <9C5A96A8-1251-4B57-AD91-554FBB1822FD@gmail.com> Waou very cool ! Will you send some pictures too? :P On 27 Sep 2014, at 21:21, K9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > Today i had a chance to visit the studio Elektronische Musik, not the same place, but the equipment that stockhausen, eimert, kagel, McGuire, and many many more composers worked on. > > I thought we'd get a tour and a talk. Instead we did a 5 hour jam session on reel to reels, sine generators, impulse generators, radios, ring modulators and even the EMS vocoder. > > Maybe you guys can imagine what it feels like... I'm completely exhausted and very humbled and happy. What an incredible day...! > > Yes. We recorded. A LOT. I will post some stuff...!;) > > > > > > Sent from my phone > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar From tony at entity.net Mon Sep 29 01:10:07 2014 From: tony at entity.net (Tony Hardie-Bick) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 00:10:07 +0100 Subject: WDR Studio Elektronische Musik In-Reply-To: <9C5A96A8-1251-4B57-AD91-554FBB1822FD@gmail.com> References: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> <9C5A96A8-1251-4B57-AD91-554FBB1822FD@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5428954F.80208@entity.net> On 28/09/14 20:04, Rom MUSIC BAR wrote: > Waou very cool ! > Will you send some pictures too? :P pictures too please :) t. From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Mon Sep 29 08:16:06 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 07:16:06 +0100 Subject: WDR Studio Elektronische Musik In-Reply-To: <5428954F.80208@entity.net> References: <9A90890D-F2BC-4CC1-915A-25C81FB735AB@kainiggemann.com> <9C5A96A8-1251-4B57-AD91-554FBB1822FD@gmail.com> <5428954F.80208@entity.net> Message-ID: Wow!!! Nice one.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: "Tony Hardie-Bick" Sent: ?29/?09/?2014 00:10 To: "Music-bar" Subject: Re: WDR Studio Elektronische Musik On 28/09/14 20:04, Rom MUSIC BAR wrote: > Waou very cool ! > Will you send some pictures too? :P pictures too please :) t. _______________________________________________ music-bar mailing list music-bar at lists.music-bar.org http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at deadmengods.com Mon Sep 29 22:40:02 2014 From: forums at deadmengods.com (Mikael Hansson) Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2014 22:40:02 +0200 Subject: Analog Rytm performing in depth Message-ID: <0CF1D04A-EB2C-4273-B816-9FFFE754C459@deadmengods.com> http://youtu.be/o8q3Iv4uEDs A nice, in depth, tutorial by Cuckoo, quite long though... /Micke From kai at kainiggemann.com Tue Sep 30 04:00:08 2014 From: kai at kainiggemann.com (K9 Kai Niggemann) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 04:00:08 +0200 Subject: first video of WDR SFEM Message-ID: <5B81E525-54EE-443B-AFF1-11EBD22BB1BB@kainiggemann.com> hi guys, I'm still uploading but need to go to sleep. So I have delayed this mail hoping that the upload will be finished by the time it goes through. Here is a first little jam on the Telefunken tabletop reel to reels, two sine and one impulse generator, two bandpass filters, a (EMS) ringmodulator and a mixer with 200 mm faders. it's just a raw video shot by one of the participants Oliver Selkic. Jamming it's me and Max W?rden, another participant. If you ever come to K?ln and can get together a group, I can set you up with a contact to Volker M?ller, the sound engineer (a real German Diplom Ton-Ingenieur!)...;-) http://youtu.be/kWfYS2mfGrM Hope this will work..;) Kai -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Count me in! -- Gert gert van santen www.gertvansanten.nl From marc.nostromo at gmail.com Tue Sep 30 12:15:00 2014 From: marc.nostromo at gmail.com (Marc Nostromo [M-.-n]) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 12:15:00 +0200 Subject: first video of WDR SFEM In-Reply-To: <5B81E525-54EE-443B-AFF1-11EBD22BB1BB@kainiggemann.com> References: <5B81E525-54EE-443B-AFF1-11EBD22BB1BB@kainiggemann.com> Message-ID: Mind blown. 2014-09-30 4:00 GMT+02:00 K9 Kai Niggemann : > hi guys, > > I'm still uploading but need to go to sleep. So I have delayed this mail > hoping that the upload will be finished by the time it goes through. > > Here is a first little jam on the Telefunken tabletop reel to reels, two > sine and one impulse generator, two bandpass filters, a (EMS) ringmodulator > and a mixer with 200 mm faders. it's just a raw video shot by one of the > participants Oliver Selkic. Jamming it's me and Max W?rden, another > participant. > > If you ever come to K?ln and can get together a group, I can set you up > with a contact to Volker M?ller, the sound engineer (a real German Diplom > Ton-Ingenieur!)...;-) > > > http://youtu.be/kWfYS2mfGrM > > Hope this will work..;) > > Kai > > > > _______________________________________________ > music-bar mailing list > music-bar at lists.music-bar.org > http://lists.music-bar.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/music-bar > > -- http://marc-nostromo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From forums at punkdisco.co.uk Tue Sep 30 11:58:16 2014 From: forums at punkdisco.co.uk (punkdISCO) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 10:58:16 +0100 Subject: first video of WDR SFEM In-Reply-To: <5B81E525-54EE-443B-AFF1-11EBD22BB1BB@kainiggemann.com> References: <5B81E525-54EE-443B-AFF1-11EBD22BB1BB@kainiggemann.com> Message-ID: Nice one . Loved the close up of the single real spinning towards the end.. Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk -----Original Message----- From: "K9 Kai Niggemann" Sent: ?30/?09/?2014 03:00 To: "Music bar" Subject: first video of WDR SFEM hi guys, I'm still uploading but need to go to sleep. So I have delayed this mail hoping that the upload will be finished by the time it goes through. Here is a first little jam on the Telefunken tabletop reel to reels, two sine and one impulse generator, two bandpass filters, a (EMS) ringmodulator and a mixer with 200 mm faders. it's just a raw video shot by one of the participants Oliver Selkic. Jamming it's me and Max W?rden, another participant. If you ever come to K?ln and can get together a group, I can set you up with a contact to Volker M?ller, the sound engineer (a real German Diplom Ton-Ingenieur!)...;-) http://youtu.be/kWfYS2mfGrM Hope this will work..;) Kai -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From tony at entity.net Tue Sep 30 14:13:19 2014 From: tony at entity.net (Tony Hardie-Bick) Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2014 13:13:19 +0100 Subject: first video of WDR SFEM In-Reply-To: <5B81E525-54EE-443B-AFF1-11EBD22BB1BB@kainiggemann.com> References: <5B81E525-54EE-443B-AFF1-11EBD22BB1BB@kainiggemann.com> Message-ID: <542A9E5F.3080405@entity.net> On 30/09/14 03:00, K9 Kai Niggemann wrote: > http://youtu.be/kWfYS2mfGrM a few pulses have never sounded so good :) t.