Aurora

Paul Maddox yo at vacoloco.net
Sun Dec 9 13:15:51 CET 2012


Good point Martin thank you.

I hadn't considered failures.

Paul

On 9 December 2012 11:12, Martin Naef <mnaef at navisto.ch> wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> Throw in some more money for setting up your own limited company, and set
> aside some more for warranty works. I think $3000 per instrument is more
> realistic if you want to be in a range where a systematic defect (say an
> electronic component in the voice board that's out of spec and
> dies within a year) doesn't immediately move you into bankruptcy.
>
> Not that I'd want to discourage anybody, but with a project in the quarter
> million range, I'd rather make sure your business plan is solid and you
> balance your risks against your profit.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> On 07.12.2012 11:55, Paul Maddox wrote:
>
>> Joost,
>>
>> yup, all the figures will work out in bulk.
>> What I'll be doing, once it's built and debugged is getting prices for
>> assembled boards, different cases, etc and then spending a week in
>> spreadsheet hell costing the options up.
>>
>> This'll give me the basis for the "price breaks" for the crowdfunding
>> project and give me an idea of what's needed.
>> however, do the math based on your equations, that's a kick starter
>> project that needs $250,000 of funding to get started, that is HUGE
>> money to be dealing with in anyone's books.
>>
>> to be honest, that kind of scares me. but it does show that in volume a
>> realistic price is achievable.
>> it'd certainly scare the heck out of people like Dave Smith, Access and
>> Waldorf.
>>
>> But, let's not count chickens yet, I have to finish it first :)
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On 7 December 2012 21:09, Joost Schuttelaar <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl
>> <mailto:joost@**joostschuttelaar.nl <joost at joostschuttelaar.nl>>> wrote:
>>
>>     I think that making it as an instrument just for yourself, to play,
>>     actually play, then to see what (can) come after, is a very smart
>>     thing. Like you mentioned, a 3500 UKP instrument is not realistic,
>>     unless it is something truly extraordinary.
>>
>>     120USD for 1000 boards gets you in the kickstarter range though...
>>     100 orders, 1000 boards... 1200+300 (case)+200 (keybed)+200 assembly
>>     = a 2000 USD instrument. Add 500 for your time. 2500 USD for a
>>     10-voice awesome polyphonic synth. Makes you 50K. That's OK for a
>>     'hobby' project for 2 years.
>>
>>     --
>>
>>     Joost Schuttelaar
>>     The Hague, NL
>>
>
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