Gain structure and mixing; or how to make your mixdowns sound fantastic!

Romain / rXg EMAIL HIDDEN
Fri Jan 21 17:48:00 CET 2011


Hello!

Last year I watched a lot of video about the subject 'Mixing-Mastering' and
I read a lot on different forums too.,..
Now i m checking the name Katz and see the face of the dude and I remember
that I saw couple of  youtube videos with him mastering ... it was quite
interesting  ( at this time i didnt know he was a master of mastering) ...
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Bob+Katz&aq=f

I think now I want the book even if the most of it will be Chinese for me
... but as we said if you are motivated you can do almost everything ...
I learned so much last year with all the information I got from Internet  (
printed quite a lot :)...
Now for me it s quite obvious that I was doing mistakes that all beginners
do, the biggest one was to include the mastering part inside the mixing
session to get the fat/big sound (instead of bouncing around -6db to
-3db [without limiters] to avoid to kill  dynamics.) ...

I think the most of the beginner do "mixing and mastering" unconsciously at
the same time cause they don t know or they are  not informed about what
mastering is compare to mixing and vice versa...

Also I do believe more and more I read  that I can t do a real master Cd
cause my knowledge,skills and Hardwares compare to real 'ME'  are just
peanuts even with the most motivated mood I can be ...

However, I recall Gert (which has way more experiences than me ) telling to
the bar that from his own point of view and experiences, it seems possible
to master your own cd yourself ... but more i read on the subject more I
think it s almost  impossible ( knowing that the first challenge is to do a
correct job without being in a professional Mastering sound room ) etc ...

Anyhow, Good luck Dave for your mastering !!!
I m  quite curious to hear your new stuff ( and so my dubstep friends !!!!
:P) ...



On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Dave S <sly at mu-sly.co.uk> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I'm mostly lurking these days.  Currently doing final mixdowns for my
> album... yes, a real album, coming out on a small record label sometime
> "soon" hehe!  Exciting times for me - I expect my part of the process to
> be finished within the next month, if I keep going at the current rate.
>
> I'll let the 'bar know when it's ready to listen to - free MP3 copies
> will be available to anyone who is interested to hear it, naturally.
>
> Anyway, I've been doing a LOT of reading lately to try and help me
> improve my mixes as much as possible before mastering, and there's this
> one particular thread on Dubstep Forum which is just a goldmine of
> useful information on how to properly structure your mix so that your
> tracks will sound consistently good.
>
> I can't recommend it enough - the advice within is universally useful,
> and is not just for people writing dubstep.  Read the whole thing if you
> have time, or at least about the first 5-12 pages or so (which is where
> most of the really useful info is, IMHO).
>
> Seriously, just read it - you are pretty much guaranteed to learn
> something useful!!!
>
>
> http://www.dubstepforum.com/this-thread-will-answer-your-mixing-and-mastering-questions-t74832.html
>
> Or as a shorter link: http://tinyurl.com/gainstructure
>
> I've also been sinking my teeth into the Bob Katz book "Mastering Audio"
> (2nd edition), which while is not totally relevant to what I'm doing
> (I'm mixing not mastering) is still a very accessible book considering
> the subject matter, and provides immense food for thought.
>
> Based on what I've read so far in that book, I would heartily recommend
> it for anybody wanting to improve the sound of their music.  It'll get
> you thinking a lot more about what you're doing, and you may find (as
> I'm already finding) that armed with an increased awareness of how
> things work throughout the whole process, it's considerably easier to
> just get things sounding good.
>
> Once this album is out of the way (some tracks are 2 years old) I can't
> wait to start writing some new material with my increased theoretical
> knowledge there from the beginning - I anticipate a hugely improved
> workflow and far less headaches.
>
> Theory... it's not as fun as writing music, but on the other hand, get
> some of it firmly into your head, and the flow of the creative process
> just gets better and better.  At least, that's my experience.
>
> Hope you're all keeping well?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dave
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Romain
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