The Clash

[Tony Hardie-Bick]

Kai,

I agree with your observations. I was fortunate to tour with a band, Sham69, 
after they had managed to obtain an unfortunate and unwanted following from a 
supposed right-wing contingent in Europe and the USA.

What characterised them was this: fear, and lack of experience of different 
cultures.

I have also noticed, among extremely well-educated, well-off professionals, the 
same.

What characterised them was this: fear, and lack of experience of different 
cultures.

As a result of my earlier experiences, I had, hard-coded into my mind, a 
complete inability to accept the lazy associations made, automatically by 
fearful, inexperienced human nature, and so, yes, I agree with your observations.

Each one of us has these unfortunate and unwanted tendencies, and so each one of 
us has a choice. By making the correct choice, there's a chance that cultures 
with a long memory, will choose to embrace a brilliant future.

I also learnt to respect those who expressed those unfortunate and unwanted 
tendencies, because, without exception, each one of them was fearful, and giving 
translated voice to genuine, heartfelt emotions, which had nothing to do with 
the causes they imagined, but were nevertheless, entirely real, and needing of 
attention.

Tony (HB)

On 09/10/10 23:55, K9 Kai Niggemann wrote:
> I have never heard of that site (like millions of other relevant web sites,
> so I guess that is no big deal), but when he speaks out about foreigners I
> begin to think there is more to this whole story than the headline "Rock
> Rebels "Clash" Were Corporate Puppets" lets you think.
>
> It's this sentiment, rolling like the tide all over Europe these days that
> "you should be able to say these things". "Someone finally dares to speak up"
> then "Our culture is being destroyed by immigration" (quoted directly from
> the interview) "If, like me, you didn't approve of leftist ideas you were
> immediately branded a fascist" (also from interview). I find it dangerous,
> like setting fire to a fuse and trying to extinguish it with gasoline.
>
> We are getting ideas that border on fascism, extremist views about foreigners
> and Islam in (probably) every EU country (and beyond).
>
> Where are we headed? I am fully aware that most if not all EU societies have
> deeply rooted social problems, problems with education, problems with
> integrating foreigners, problems with extremist muslims and problems getting
> people into paid jobs.
>
> But it seems fascism is creeping back into our societies, our middle class,
> our conservative newspapers, heck, even one of the board-members of Deutsche
> Bank is scared shitless of Islam and wrote a million copy selling book about
> how Germany is abolishing itself by letting immigrants into the country. And
> his views are almost congruent with Vince White's.
>
> TV anchorheads, talkshow guests and even hosts are increasingly giving very
> simple answers to very complex problems. Gert Wilders, Nicolas Sarkozy,
> Berlusconi, Jörg Haider -- in Germany they are only waiting for the right
> face to appear to head a populistic right wing party and estimates for their
> voter potential range between 10-20% (I know it's a wide range, it's my own
> unscientific survey among a number of friends, maybe as hysteric as me).
>
> I think it's due time to take every opportunity to oppose the non-thinking,
> to let the questions be asked, but then to search for real answers, to
> actually solve, not perpetuate and worsen the problems. Write letters to the
> editor, call you members of parliament or send them e-mail, join campact or
> similar NGO movements to make your voice heard. Go out of the house and join
> demonstrations, post the calls and spread the news on Facebook, Twitter,
> etc.
>
> For now it's my idea of trying to make a difference. Any advice, ideas,
> comments and criticism greatly appreciated...
>
> sorry for the rant. The interview link was my bait, I guess..;)
>
> Kai
>
>
> On 09.10.2010, at 23:55, perry7 at mac.com wrote:
>
>> hi guys,
>>
>> i think 'London Calling' was a fine song, liked the sound of the vocals
>> very much this article somehow suprised me on the other hand it sounds as
>> something we could have expected: corporatism!
>>
>> http://www.henrymakow.com/rock_music_rebels_are_corporat.html
>>
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