Okay, I see what you are all saying. I only need one (Live) as it does far more than I will ever need. Which reminds me: back to playing with Live 8..! x Paul London www.punkdisco.co.uk Banned by YouTube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EvlOpBe0xU "thats mental! and rather fkin ace too! cheers! dick subhumans"